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  • slayer14
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 08-12-13
    • 22007

    #1
    Baseball new extra inning rule
    Base runner begins on 2nd base at the start of every inning, who comes up with these rules and why tamper with the great tradition of baseball in USA.
  • Bostongambler
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 02-01-08
    • 35581

    #2
    It’s just for this season.
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    • TheMetsSuck
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-14-12
      • 6149

      #3
      Cost me a live under . Wait Diaz did that also. A guy on 1st would’ve sufficed. 2nd is too generous. Sac bunt got a guy on 3rd 1 out then a sac fly wins. Dumb
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      • slayer14
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 08-12-13
        • 22007

        #4
        You have to earn your base in baseball, it throwing away all the record books
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        • JayLA
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 09-11-12
          • 7806

          #5
          mm isnt this how other baseball leagues do it?
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          • Chi_archie
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-22-08
            • 63165

            #6
            It's crazy I guess if that runner scores he gets points in daily fantasy baseball.

            The runner put on 2nd is the guy that made the last out of the previous inning
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            • KVB
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 05-29-14
              • 74817

              #7
              Originally posted by Chi_archie
              It's crazy I guess if that runner scores he gets points in daily fantasy baseball.

              The runner put on 2nd is the guy that made the last out of the previous inning
              Also, if the guy on second scores, of course, it's an unearned run.
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              • EasyCover
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 02-01-11
                • 621

                #8
                They will adopt this and make it permanent in my opinion. Gonna be hard to take Unders. If you like under as I do, best to bet 1st 5 innings.
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                • KVB
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 05-29-14
                  • 74817

                  #9
                  It's used in the minor leagues, recently adopted.
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                  • TheMetsSuck
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 01-14-12
                    • 6149

                    #10
                    Awful rule. Lot of value in road dogs late in the game imo. I took tigers +208 bottom 8 just bc they get first crack if it goes to extras
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                    • flyingillini
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 12-06-06
                      • 41219

                      #11
                      I could see them using this rule from now on.
                      המוסד‎
                      המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                      • Chi_archie
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-22-08
                        • 63165

                        #12
                        Getting a lot of use today
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                        • KVB
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 05-29-14
                          • 74817

                          #13
                          Originally posted by TheMetsSuck
                          ...Sac bunt got a guy on 3rd 1 out then a sac fly wins. Dumb
                          This is exactly what KC did in the top of the 10th to go up 3-2.

                          Cleveland will get their chance.

                          Edit...the first batter for KC was a Sac Bunt, but the same idea.
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                          • EasyCover
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 02-01-11
                            • 621

                            #14
                            I think it is a good rule. I am a traditionalist, but few want to watch a 4-5 hour game. Will be interesting strategy wise.
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                            • ArunSh
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-24-07
                              • 6801

                              #15
                              Does seem like this rule will make the home teams even more likely to win. Since scoring in extra innings will be way more common, having that additional information about how many runs you need to win/tie before you bat will be huge.

                              But yes lot of unders might get destroyed since many extra innings will see both sides score one and go into additional extras to build up the score perhaps quite quickly.
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                              • mikejamm
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 08-24-09
                                • 11034

                                #16
                                Totally agree Arun. Totals and run lines are fuk’ed with this bullshit change.

                                Dumbest fuk’in idea they’ve ever come up with! Like others have said, Baseball is about earning your way on base, and the strategy of using every fuk’in player and pitcher you’ve got in extra innings to get than winning run home.
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                                • KVB
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 05-29-14
                                  • 74817

                                  #17
                                  Can it be exploited?

                                  Basically 8.6 to 8.7 percent of MLB games go to extra innings. That's at least a game a day. It's also pretty consistent.

                                  With so many 1 run games as well, about 28%, the spots of close games to hit the overs will need to be tight.

                                  But it could be done.

                                  There's a home road split that could help. Road victories end with a 1 run margin less than 1/4 of the time while the home games have closer to 1/3 of them decided that way. It still might matter this season with travel.

                                  A capper needs to fold his own perceived edge to get further.
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                                  • lonegambler23
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 06-22-16
                                    • 9761

                                    #18
                                    u can thank bryce harper
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                                    • stevenash
                                      Moderator
                                      • 01-17-11
                                      • 65144

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by KVB

                                      Basically 8.6 to 8.7 percent of MLB games go to extra innings. That's at least a game a day. It's also pretty consistent.

                                      With so many 1 run games as well, about 28%, the spots of close games to hit the overs will need to be tight.

                                      But it could be done.

                                      There's a home road split that could help. Road victories end with a 1 run margin less than 1/4 of the time while the home games have closer to 1/3 of them decided that way. It still might matter this season with travel.

                                      A capper needs to fold his own perceived edge to get further.
                                      This is a spot on post.

                                      Across the past 20 years one out of eleven games goes to extra innings.

                                      p.s. it's never a good idea to wager a home team on a run line.
                                      Road teams that are favorites is not that bad of an idea because the road team will always have a ninth inning at bat.
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                                      • clockwise1965
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 10-01-13
                                        • 6753

                                        #20
                                        Baseball has become a joke
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                                        • MinnesotaFats
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 12-18-10
                                          • 14758

                                          #21
                                          The only truly great thing about baseball is that it is THE ONLY SPORT where the defense has the ball and GREAT offense still fails to get on base 60% of the time.

                                          Owners just made getting on base a 100% sure thing in extras PLUS put dude in scoring position.

                                          The owners stupidity and the player selfishness combined with managers fielding lineups that are all or nothing is killing the game.

                                          None of these teams today could pitch, hit, field or run the bases w the Yankees of the 90s, Cardinals of the 80s, the Reds of the 70s, etc.

                                          Ridiculous
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                                          • Mike Huntertz
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 08-19-09
                                            • 11203

                                            #22
                                            It originated with fastball. Not a lot of runs scored in games so it helped get a winner sooner.
                                            Was first just for tournaments but then was adopted for all games.

                                            Like it or not it is equal for both teams and gets the game over sooner.

                                            No concessions or fans to buy.....get it over.
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                                            • clockwise1965
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 10-01-13
                                              • 6753

                                              #23
                                              Yes.. the game has become an embarrassment
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                                              • SBR_Guest_Pro
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-10-15
                                                • 3955

                                                #24
                                                they will end up making it permanent
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                                                • TheMetsSuck
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 01-14-12
                                                  • 6149

                                                  #25
                                                  If the game is tied in the 8th auto bet the over. Guarantee this is a winning formula that the books won’t factor in to live betting as much as they should
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                                                  • Mike Huntertz
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 08-19-09
                                                    • 11203

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by TheMetsSuck
                                                    If the game is tied in the 8th auto bet the over. Guarantee this is a winning formula that the books won’t factor in to live betting as much as they should
                                                    Interesting. Definitely something to watch and maybe wager?
                                                    Thanxs for sharing.
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                                                    • pavyracer
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 04-12-07
                                                      • 82476

                                                      #27
                                                      This is a bullshit rule. You shouldn't be losing an under because they gift runs to teams in extra innings.
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                                                      • ArunSh
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 09-24-07
                                                        • 6801

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                        This is a bullshit rule. You shouldn't be losing an under because they gift runs to teams in extra innings.
                                                        Don't really see why it's BS anymore than in say hockey an under losing due to a last second empty netter or in basketball, the end of game foul game running up the score.

                                                        Just an additional factor to take into account when betting an under/over for now. If it really is BS as you state, well seems like you might be able to grab a lot of value by betting over in every game
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                                                        • DrunkHorseplayer
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 05-15-10
                                                          • 7719

                                                          #29
                                                          Absolute fukkin garbage, even without taking into account the betting factor.
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                                                          • pavyracer
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 04-12-07
                                                            • 82476

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by ArunSh
                                                            Don't really see why it's BS anymore than in say hockey an under losing due to a last second empty netter or in basketball, the end of game foul game running up the score.

                                                            Just an additional factor to take into account when betting an under/over for now. If it really is BS as you state, well seems like you might be able to grab a lot of value by betting over in every game
                                                            It's not the same with other sports. Not sure hockey is a good analogy as there can never be an empty netter in OT. So if you have the under 5.5 in hockey and the game ends 2-2 in regulation you can't lose. But in baseball you can have the under 9.5 and the game is tied 4-4 and with the 2 gift runners they give the 2 runs are almost automatic. It doesn't even give you a chance to play defense and score 1 run like with the old rules.
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                                                            • ArunSh
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 09-24-07
                                                              • 6801

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                              It's not the same with other sports. Not sure hockey is a good analogy as there can never be an empty netter in OT. So if you have the under 5.5 in hockey and the game ends 2-2 in regulation you can't lose. But in baseball you can have the under 9.5 and the game is tied 4-4 and with the 2 gift runners they give the 2 runs are almost automatic. It doesn't even give you a chance to play defense and score 1 run like with the old rules.

                                                              Well obviously no two sports are identical. Point is this is an additional thing that changes the game a bit, yes it should make overs a bit more likely to hit than the old days - just something to take into account when you are choosing to bet unders/overs. No doubt the lines themselves will be impacted a bit on the whole too to take this change into account.

                                                              Not sure if this change is good or bad, without seeing it in action a bunch hard to assess. But from a betting standpoint, just again something you have to consider in your assessment when you are deciding what bets you think are good.
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                                                              • CanuckG
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 12-23-10
                                                                • 21976

                                                                #32
                                                                The totals reflect the rule changes. Not sure why anyone is complaining.
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                                                                • 19th Hole
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 03-22-09
                                                                  • 18827

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I may be the exception here but I don't mind 16, 17 or even 18 inning games.
                                                                  Sure extra-inning games wreak havoc with the availability of bullpens and players
                                                                  with nagging injuries in upcoming games, but that is a traditional part of the game.



                                                                  The A's made the home team R/L viable with the 10th inning salami.
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                                                                  • eidolon
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 01-02-08
                                                                    • 9531

                                                                    #34
                                                                    just have no extra innings in the regular season. There are 162 games, ties are okay.
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                                                                    • slayer14
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 08-12-13
                                                                      • 22007

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Will this rule be used during this post season also
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