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  • HedgeHog
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-11-07
    • 10128

    #1016
    Originally posted by pimike
    I would like to hear from SBR whether we should be funding any of their sister books under these circumstances.
    Excellent point. With 5D free rolling future bets and gouging non exclusive BTC clients, how can you trust Betanysports? Especially when you know 5D is still "unofficially" involved with this Book. Fool me once......
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    • DontTailMe
      SBR MVP
      • 03-24-19
      • 2897

      #1017
      Originally posted by KVB
      lol he's trying to sell it too.

      From Rudy's link...

      <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Offered $350 for this ticket and said I would be lucky to get that. They are picking up shop and running with anything remaining of their reputation burning to dust. It’s nothing more than a scam at this point. <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/XZ0dInMaf8">pic.twitter.com/XZ0dInMaf8</a></p>&mdash; Chris (@ChitownChris89) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/ChitownChris89/status/1303904009749659648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

      Isn't he just saying that 5Dimes offered him $350 for the ticket? That's what 5Dimes is saying. Stake refunds only.
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      • KVB
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 05-29-14
        • 74817

        #1018
        Originally posted by DontTailMe
        Isn't he just saying that 5Dimes offered him $350 for the ticket? That's what 5Dimes is saying. Stake refunds only.
        Yeah, I may have read more into "I would be lucky to get that" than there is because he's obviously just talking about the solvency of 5D and getting paid.
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        • KVB
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 05-29-14
          • 74817

          #1019
          Originally posted by KVB
          ...but I simply don't know what kind of exposure they are dealing with here with all these futures, open parlays, etc.

          There was some exposure that BAS was only willing to partially take, so that's something.
          Rudy gives us an idea of just what kind of exposure they could be facing even if they reduce the parlays to proper levels and have to credit accounts.

          Yikes.
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          • DontTailMe
            SBR MVP
            • 03-24-19
            • 2897

            #1020
            Originally posted by KVB
            Rudy gives us an idea of just what kind of exposure they could be facing even if they reduce the parlays to proper levels and have to credit accounts.

            Yikes.
            Sucks for them. Now just imagine all of the parlays which have already lost a leg and they get to keep. It may be a lot of exposure but it's the correct and ethical thing to do (Thou shalt not steal).
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            • johnnyvegas13
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 05-21-15
              • 27778

              #1021
              Dammm sucks to hold that ticket ...
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              • RedApples
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 10-02-18
                • 721

                #1022
                Originally posted by DontTailMe
                Sucks for them. Now just imagine all of the parlays which have already lost a leg and they get to keep. It may be a lot of exposure but it's the correct and ethical thing to do (Thou shalt not steal).
                Now you understand how it's the same as the futures markets that are getting 'refunds'. Imagine all of the bets placed on the futures market which have already lost and they get to keep.
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                • HedgeHog
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 09-11-07
                  • 10128

                  #1023
                  I don't think I'll make another long term future bet offshore after this BS.
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                  • RedApples
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 10-02-18
                    • 721

                    #1024
                    It must be nice for the automated systems to change from grading markets with a winner that instantly pay out all bets, or grading the market as no action so that no bets on that market are graded losses, or assigning value payouts for the winners of a market, to now just.... clicking REFUND to automatically refund all bets that are open.

                    Lol biggest scam ever. It's way worse than just being flat out insolvent and saying we don't have the money to pay you. They are actually trying to turn one of the biggest scams into a win.
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                    • RedApples
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 10-02-18
                      • 721

                      #1025
                      I'm too annoyed. Gonna stop posting on the topic for the night. Nothing else to gain here. Good luck to every single person in this thread. Please try to spread the word and attempt to get SBR on board with us more so that this issue can be resolved with 5Dimes following their rules and the rules of every single sportsbook. Grade all bets and markets appropriately according to the rules. It is bookmaking 101.
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                      • johnnyvegas13
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 05-21-15
                        • 27778

                        #1026
                        Originally posted by RedApples
                        I'm too annoyed. Gonna stop posting on the topic for the night. Nothing else to gain here. Good luck to every single person in this thread. Please try to spread the word and attempt to get SBR on board with us more so that this issue can be resolved with 5Dimes following their rules and the rules of every single sportsbook. Grade all bets and markets appropriately according to the rules. It is bookmaking 101.
                        Sbr is on our side but they have been pretty mum thru this whole thing
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                        • DontTailMe
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-24-19
                          • 2897

                          #1027
                          Originally posted by RedApples
                          Now you understand how it's the same as the futures markets that are getting 'refunds'. Imagine all of the bets placed on the futures market which have already lost and they get to keep.
                          I never said I didn't understand that.

                          I think you and I are talking past each other. But make no mistake, we are all on the same side.
                          Last edited by DontTailMe; 09-10-20, 05:49 PM.
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                          • Wolverine88
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 03-26-18
                            • 430

                            #1028
                            Originally posted by DontTailMe
                            Don't get me wrong. I also have a problem with them refunding futures which have gained equity. I just see that as a losing battle. But parlays with graded legs have already been deemed wins and their value can literally be quantified down to the penny. There is no excuse for voiding bets which have already won.

                            If you think about it, this is another free roll situation. Any open or future parlays that we played and happened to have had a losing leg...we don't get those stakes back. But 5Dimes gets to void parlays which are still live?
                            Yep, this is about as crooked as you get, but not seeing a way to counter their bs. I'm just trying to calculate the best possible payout 'if' they decide to pay.....or go all in on a +1000 and see what they do.

                            The Parlays are one thing, my bad for holding em so long, the kick in the jimmies is the deposit for $300 last weekend that I have to rollover, that's just complete bs!!

                            Open 25 Team Parlay
                            Win 2/20/2020 7:00:01 PM College Basketball Coastal Carolina -380
                            Win 2/20/2020 7:00:01 PM College Basketball Ohio State +11 -575
                            Win 2/20/2020 7:00:01 PM College Basketball Temple +8 -625
                            Win 2/20/2020 8:00:01 PM College Basketball Arizona -650
                            Win 2/20/2020 8:30:01 PM College Basketball Michigan State -900
                            Win 2/20/2020 9:00:01 PM College Basketball BYU -5 -725
                            Win 2/20/2020 9:00:01 PM College Basketball Colorado -500
                            Win 2/20/2020 11:00:01 PM College Basketball Gonzaga -6 -900
                            Win 2/20/2020 7:00:01 PM College Basketball South Florida +17 -440
                            Win 2/20/2020 8:30:01 PM College Basketball Murray State +5 -725
                            Win 2/20/2020 9:00:01 PM College Basketball Arizona State +8 -340
                            Win 2/21/2020 7:00:01 PM College Basketball Yale -840
                            Win 2/22/2020 12:00:01 PM College Basketball Providence +10 -1,000
                            Win 2/22/2020 2:00:01 PM College Basketball South Alabama +10 -725
                            Win 2/22/2020 3:00:01 PM College Basketball Murray State -750
                            Win 2/22/2020 10:00:01 PM College Basketball Loyola Marymount +10 -1,300
                            Win 2/23/2020 4:00:01 PM College Basketball Creighton +7 -1,300
                            Win 2/24/2020 8:00:01 PM College Basketball Illinois -1,250
                            Win 2/24/2020 9:00:01 PM College Basketball Kansas -1,400
                            Win 2/24/2020 8:30:01 PM College Extra Basketball Prairie View A&M -1,500
                            Win 2/25/2020 8:00:01 PM College Basketball Baylor -1,400
                            Win 2/26/2020 6:30:01 PM College Basketball Villanova -1,000
                            Win 2/26/2020 8:00:01 PM College Basketball Northern Iowa -1,350
                            Win 2/27/2020 9:00:01 PM College Basketball Gonzaga -15,000
                            Pending 11/8/2020 3:00:01 PM NASCAR Cup Motor Racing 10007 D.Hamlin wins Monster Energy Cup +700*vs Field wins Monster Energy Cup
                            Open 6 Team Parlay
                            Win 11/9/2018 7:00:01 PM College Basketball Northeastern +6 -220
                            Win 11/9/2018 7:30:01 PM College Basketball St. Joseph's -1 -175
                            Win 11/9/2018 7:00:01 PM College Basketball Northern Kentucky -2 -195
                            Win 11/11/2018 2:30:01 PM NASCAR Cup Motor Racing A Toyota wins Can-Am 500 +230
                            Win 11/18/2018 2:30:01 PM NASCAR Cup Motor Racing Field wins Ford EcoBoost 400 -4,000
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                            • LongBall52
                              SBR MVP
                              • 06-14-20
                              • 1319

                              #1029
                              They're online chat was very rude to me several years ago... AND this was AFTER my Credit card had been used fradulently.
                              I'm sure most if not all will get paid. And suspect they will. But my guess they will never be a sportsbook in the USA.
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                              • johnnyvegas13
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 05-21-15
                                • 27778

                                #1030
                                Originally posted by LongBall52
                                They're online chat was very rude to me several years ago... AND this was AFTER my Credit card had been used fradulently.
                                I'm sure most if not all will get paid. And suspect they will. But my guess they will never be a sportsbook in the USA.
                                Agree we will get paid and I’m the guy who futures have not been refunded
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                                • soobv
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 05-31-16
                                  • 69

                                  #1031
                                  Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
                                  Agree we will get paid and I’m the guy who futures have not been refunded
                                  Same with me
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                                  • hank_kingsley
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 07-08-20
                                    • 116

                                    #1032
                                    Can't wait til next year when Betanysports.eu pulls the same scam.
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                                    • HedgeHog
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 09-11-07
                                      • 10128

                                      #1033
                                      Originally posted by hank_kingsley
                                      Can't wait til next year when Betanysports.eu pulls the same scam.
                                      At least you have the opportunity to avoid this. Do the 1x RO on your transfer and cash out.
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                                      • BrickJames
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 05-05-11
                                        • 9749

                                        #1034
                                        Originally posted by Wolverine88
                                        Yep, this is about as crooked as you get, but not seeing a way to counter their bs. I'm just trying to calculate the best possible payout 'if' they decide to pay.....or go all in on a +1000 and see what they do.

                                        The Parlays are one thing, my bad for holding em so long, the kick in the jimmies is the deposit for $300 last weekend that I have to rollover, that's just complete bs!!

                                        Open 25 Team Parlay
                                        Win 2/20/2020 7:00:01 PM College Basketball Coastal Carolina -380
                                        Win 2/20/2020 7:00:01 PM College Basketball Ohio State +11 -575
                                        Win 2/20/2020 7:00:01 PM College Basketball Temple +8 -625
                                        Win 2/20/2020 8:00:01 PM College Basketball Arizona -650
                                        Win 2/20/2020 8:30:01 PM College Basketball Michigan State -900
                                        Win 2/20/2020 9:00:01 PM College Basketball BYU -5 -725
                                        Win 2/20/2020 9:00:01 PM College Basketball Colorado -500
                                        Win 2/20/2020 11:00:01 PM College Basketball Gonzaga -6 -900
                                        Win 2/20/2020 7:00:01 PM College Basketball South Florida +17 -440
                                        Win 2/20/2020 8:30:01 PM College Basketball Murray State +5 -725
                                        Win 2/20/2020 9:00:01 PM College Basketball Arizona State +8 -340
                                        Win 2/21/2020 7:00:01 PM College Basketball Yale -840
                                        Win 2/22/2020 12:00:01 PM College Basketball Providence +10 -1,000
                                        Win 2/22/2020 2:00:01 PM College Basketball South Alabama +10 -725
                                        Win 2/22/2020 3:00:01 PM College Basketball Murray State -750
                                        Win 2/22/2020 10:00:01 PM College Basketball Loyola Marymount +10 -1,300
                                        Win 2/23/2020 4:00:01 PM College Basketball Creighton +7 -1,300
                                        Win 2/24/2020 8:00:01 PM College Basketball Illinois -1,250
                                        Win 2/24/2020 9:00:01 PM College Basketball Kansas -1,400
                                        Win 2/24/2020 8:30:01 PM College Extra Basketball Prairie View A&M -1,500
                                        Win 2/25/2020 8:00:01 PM College Basketball Baylor -1,400
                                        Win 2/26/2020 6:30:01 PM College Basketball Villanova -1,000
                                        Win 2/26/2020 8:00:01 PM College Basketball Northern Iowa -1,350
                                        Win 2/27/2020 9:00:01 PM College Basketball Gonzaga -15,000
                                        Pending 11/8/2020 3:00:01 PM NASCAR Cup Motor Racing 10007 D.Hamlin wins Monster Energy Cup +700*vs Field wins Monster Energy Cup
                                        Open 6 Team Parlay
                                        Win 11/9/2018 7:00:01 PM College Basketball Northeastern +6 -220
                                        Win 11/9/2018 7:30:01 PM College Basketball St. Joseph's -1 -175
                                        Win 11/9/2018 7:00:01 PM College Basketball Northern Kentucky -2 -195
                                        Win 11/11/2018 2:30:01 PM NASCAR Cup Motor Racing A Toyota wins Can-Am 500 +230
                                        Win 11/18/2018 2:30:01 PM NASCAR Cup Motor Racing Field wins Ford EcoBoost 400 -4,000
                                        Wow, I would call and complain and see if you can get some kind of cash settlement on that, holy fukkin balls you are getting fukked.
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                                        • JayLA
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-11-12
                                          • 7806

                                          #1035
                                          This thread is amazing. So many lurking winners
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                                          • cincinnatikid513
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 11-23-17
                                            • 45360

                                            #1036
                                            Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                            tell it to this guy






                                            $348k pending future parlay


                                            i can only hope it is proven to be a fake ticket
                                            why not just cancel any that hasn't started and grade all those that have
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                                            • DontTailMe
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 03-24-19
                                              • 2897

                                              #1037
                                              Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                              why not just cancel any that hasn't started and grade all those that have
                                              Yes, that's obviously what they should do. But they're signaling that they aren't going to do that. Because they'd have to pay out those winners.
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                                              • Wolverine88
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 03-26-18
                                                • 430

                                                #1038
                                                Spent an hour chatting with 5d, they are not willing to cede any ground here, and since these were both small novelty bets, there's not much since in taking the 'return wager' offer. I basically have a $300 deposit that I have to bet (rollover policy) and these parlays that are worth about $250 each, just looking for a way to optimize the payout.
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                                                • HedgeHog
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 09-11-07
                                                  • 10128

                                                  #1039
                                                  SBR can do nothing for us now regarding 5D. Their A+ sponsor book is free to steal as much as they want on the way out. Futures are now all losers or break even if they are lucky enough to survive until 9/21. Luckily this doesn't appear to be a BetIslands fiasco where 100% of funds were stolen. It's just selective theft at this point and SBR can't do shiit about this. It is what it is.
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                                                  • johnnyvegas13
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 05-21-15
                                                    • 27778

                                                    #1040
                                                    Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                                    SBR can do nothing for us now regarding 5D. Their A+ sponsor book is free to steal as much as they want on the way out. Futures are now all losers or break even if they are lucky enough to survive until 9/21. Luckily this doesn't appear to be a BetIslands fiasco where 100% of funds were stolen. It's just selective theft at this point and SBR can't do shiit about this. It is what it is.
                                                    Kinda agree

                                                    i think we will get payed tho

                                                    sbr prob can’t do much but they could at least pretend to b trying
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                                                    • turbobets
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 01-13-06
                                                      • 994

                                                      #1041
                                                      Made request Monday night. Got verification email and paid $4,000 this afternoon.
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                                                      • BuckyOne
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-02-15
                                                        • 2728

                                                        #1042
                                                        Originally posted by soobv
                                                        Couldn’t this guy go take a flight to Aruba (they are taking Americans with Covid tests) for a few weeks and keep his account open? They said if you are in a country that accepts wagers you can keep it open and futures active. If Vegas wins he stays there to collect and if they lose then it’s a costly trip but maybe he can hedge somewhere else to cover expenses.
                                                        I like the way you think / great idea!
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                                                        • spro23
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 07-17-15
                                                          • 1129

                                                          #1043
                                                          If they were insolvent, literally noone would've noticed since it's the biggest deposit season of the year. They would've just kept quiet about their problems and raked in this fall.
                                                          That's why the scam motivation doesn't make sense to me.
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                                                          • JIBBBY
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 12-10-09
                                                            • 83691

                                                            #1044
                                                            I feel bad for you Parlay players that have a last leg left pending after the Dimes dead line.. Wow you boys are probably screwed..

                                                            I'm still hoping Dimes will just cancel and fund all my futures.. They said by Monday we'll see???
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                                                            • valueguyman
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 04-08-16
                                                              • 44

                                                              #1045
                                                              I got about $5K on future bets that I'm told will be refunded to me and that was yesterday. This is a lot of money for me. Am I screwed? I don't feel like I am, 5D has always been good at paying me out. But this is a different situation so I don't know for sure.
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                                                              • soobv
                                                                SBR Hustler
                                                                • 05-31-16
                                                                • 69

                                                                #1046
                                                                Originally posted by valueguyman
                                                                I got about $5K on future bets that I'm told will be refunded to me and that was yesterday. This is a lot of money for me. Am I screwed? I don't feel like I am, 5D has always been good at paying me out. But this is a different situation so I don't know for sure.
                                                                I’ve been waiting since Monday and mine is a lot more than 5k.
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                                                                • ABEHONEST
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 06-27-09
                                                                  • 9470

                                                                  #1047
                                                                  Originally posted by hank_kingsley
                                                                  Can't wait til next year when Betanysports.eu pulls the same scam.
                                                                  Well, it should be illegal as hell to make a decision this quickly in the first place. They govern the dickens out of their clients, yet who governs these clowns? Anyone???
                                                                  A 3 month or 6 month notice, and gamblers would be able make rash decisions, and also, there would be fewer clients thinking possible suicide.

                                                                  *And why not wait--the SB and presidential election are not that far off--and those 2 are the biggest gambling events to happen since our last SB.
                                                                  Or, was it a well thought out plan, "they," have pieced together for months, wanting to avoid these two blockbusters?
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                                                                  • gshock1
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 12-04-09
                                                                    • 5366

                                                                    #1048
                                                                    Originally posted by turbobets
                                                                    Made request Monday night. Got verification email and paid $4,000 this afternoon.
                                                                    Lucky you. I am on 78 hours and no email or nothing. They can't even guarantee it will be paid within 96 hours and i am btc exclusive
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                                                                    • ABEHONEST
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 06-27-09
                                                                      • 9470

                                                                      #1049
                                                                      Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                                                      SBR can do nothing for us now regarding 5D. Their A+ sponsor book is free to steal as much as they want on the way out. Futures are now all losers or break even if they are lucky enough to survive until 9/21. Luckily this doesn't appear to be a BetIslands fiasco where 100% of funds were stolen. It's just selective theft at this point and SBR can't do shiit about this. It is what it is.
                                                                      That's a losing attitude and it could be contagious? Dimes would love your give up statement and I see this as being sorry-arse pathetic..
                                                                      Calm down and wait and see.
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                                                                      • Steve6157
                                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                                        • 09-08-20
                                                                        • 5

                                                                        #1050
                                                                        Can you call them from there using the 800 number we can use? So no issues for you.
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