A Message from Sportsbook Review

**KVB** · 10-15-21, 11:16 AM

A lot of you guys are applauding this decision.

I'm not so sure.

If you had a business, like some of us, but definitely not most of you, then I could understand wanting to compare states and books in those states, after all, if you have a wide business with some reach then it applies.

But for the vast majority, what difference does it make what an Iowa book is offering when you are in PA? Who has reach like the bigger organizations?

I am still struggling to see the positive in this change, at least for many of you.

Is there a sister site that will cater to non us and offshore bettors?

I see some questons in this thread too. The answers should be interesting. Will there still be a complaint form for offshore disputes?

Will we be seeing more posters in the Forum of the likes of Windy City Winners and PardonmyPicks?

**unlearn** · 10-15-21, 11:17 AM

So what's the new name gonna be since you obviously do not give a shit about being players advocates or reviewing sportsbooks?

**unlearn** · 10-15-21, 11:17 AM

Greedy cucks

**unlearn** · 10-15-21, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by KVB

A lot of you guys are applauding this decision.

I'm not so sure.

If you had a business, like some of us, but definitely not most of you, then I could understand wanting to compare states and books in those states, after all, if you have a wide business with some reach then it applies.

But for the vast majority, what difference does it make what an Iowa book is offering when you are in PA? Who has reach like the bigger organizations?

I am still struggling to see the positive in this change, at least for many of you.

Is there a sister site that will cater to non us and offshore bettors?

I see some questons in this thread too. The answers should be interesting. Will there still be a complaint form for offshore disputes?

Will we be seeing more posters in the Forum of the likes of Windy City Winners and PardonmyPicks?

BMR for offshore I guess

**hubie69** · 10-15-21, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by KVB

A lot of you guys are applauding this decision.

I'm not so sure.

If you had a business, like some of us, but definitely not most of you, then I could understand wanting to compare states and books in those states, after all, if you have a wide business with some reach then it applies.

But for the vast majority, what difference does it make what an Iowa book is offering when you are in PA? Who has reach like the bigger organizations?

I am still struggling to see the positive in this change, at least for many of you.

Is there a sister site that will cater to non us and offshore bettors?

I see some questons in this thread too. The answers should be interesting. Will there still be a complaint form for offshore disputes?

Will we be seeing more posters in the Forum of the likes of Windy City Winners and PardonmyPicks?

KVB I've no idea if this will be good or bad. I think my point above being that we don't know enough about what SBR is moving towards to make an educated decision on what is happening

**KVB** · 10-15-21, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by hubie69

KVB I've no idea if this will be good or bad. I think my point above being that we don't know enough about what SBR is moving towards to make an educated decision on what is happening

We may not know what's to come, but I think we know what has gone.

I can't imagine they are leaving a void though. SBR odds is a flagship page. It's bascially gone now.

**jjgold** · 10-15-21, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by unlearn

BMR for offshore I guess

what is that???????

**hubie69** · 10-15-21, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by KVB

We may not know what's to come, but I think we know what has gone.

I can't imagine they are leaving a void though. SBR odds is a flagship page. It's bascially gone now.

You might be right, hell, you probably are right KVB. You typically are. You certainly know more about this industry as a whole than most on here. I'll hold judgement until SBR decides to actually add some details to this post

**Double Bogey** · 10-15-21, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by 646d6d;[URL="tel:30591651"

30591651[/URL]]Pinnacle still displays for me, but I'm accessing the site from Canada. Looks like they're only blocking it for US users?

Thanks, vpning to Canada opened it back up

**Roger T. Bannon** · 10-15-21, 11:44 AM

Maybe SBR has been sold. Maybe there is no SBR.

**KVB** · 10-15-21, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon

Maybe SBR has been sold. Maybe there is no SBR.

Maybe?

SBR being sold is the only obvious thing here.

That doesn’t necessarily equate to no more SBR, but it might mean no more SBR as we know it.

**Auto Donk** · 10-15-21, 11:46 AM

this new crackerjack team being assembled..... does that infer Brenner is coming back?

I still have a bone to pick with him due to his "Pig Pen" (from Peanuts) like "aura" -- no, not of dust, but rather of cocaine..... He gave me a good bye hug in Punta Cana that last morning before we flew back to the US, and the drug dog in the charlotte airport about chewed my leg off; followed by a couple of airport security goons rubbing little strips of paper all over me, and the dopes tearing all my luggage apart, convinced I must have brought back a helluva lot of coke.....

some of you may remember the story, as in front of 400-500 people waiting in line, a third tsa homo walks up and yells out, "I AM NOW GOING TO TOUCH YOUR GENITALS, BUT ONLY WITH THE BACKS OF MY HANDS!!!"

to which I responded -- aggravated as shit about the prospect of missing my flight back to Houston -- "GO AHEAD AND USE THE FRONTS, AND GRAB AS MUCH AS YOU WANT -- THERE'S PLENTY THERE!!!"

**Crusherrr** · 10-15-21, 11:46 AM

Might be time for me to start a new venture. IYKYK.

**Roger T. Bannon** · 10-15-21, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by KVB

Maybe?

SBR being sold is the only obvious thing here.

That doesn’t equate to no more SBR, but it might mean no more SBR as we know it.

If it is under new management, there is no SBR. This is a new site and you don't know it. They may have gotten a good deal. Maybe not.

**Microphone** · 10-15-21, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by CanuckG

By 2025 it will be legal in at least 40 states

You can probably figure by now I'm in an illegal state.

2025? That's an eternity. And that's assuming all pending bills pass "soon." Take Massachusetts, Home of Draft Kings. There have been 80 different bills sent to the senate floor in the last 3 years after being overwhelming passed to get there and they keep saying there are things more important than sports betting (aka instant revenue).

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 10-15-21, 11:50 AM

Donbest showing the same US books only. Maybe they're buying up all these sportsbook odd sites

**Roger T. Bannon** · 10-15-21, 11:53 AM

OK. So if DonBest is out of business, you cannot provide odds. That makes sense.

**KVB** · 10-15-21, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon

If it is under new management, there is no SBR. This is a new site and you don't know it...

**MBENZ** · 10-15-21, 11:56 AM

There is other sites that are showing both U.S. and offshore.One in particular gives Pinny,BOL,BM and Heritage.I'll wait to see if there is a penalty for posting a link.

**Microphone** · 10-15-21, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by hubie69

There are other sites which condense this information from multiple books as well, sbr isn't the only one. I won't post them here as I don't know if we can currently with this changing landscape, but https://www.google.com should be of assistance in finding this.

Additionally, we don't know if they're leaving the offshore odds market. While I think it's likely, this hasn't been explicitly stated by SBR.

But why not? I keep hearing "in time." I find it hard to believe this decision was made on Labor Day. Many of us are paying members. I think we are entitled to a few more details.

**Sea Turtle** · 10-15-21, 12:09 PM

Anyone know of others sites that were like this one?

Cant imagine SBR would care if you link them if they are not doing offshore anymore.

**Smoke** · 10-15-21, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by Microphone

But why not? I keep hearing "in time." I find it hard to believe this decision was made on Labor Day. Many of us are paying members. I think we are entitled to a few more details.

good luck with that. still waiting on an explanation for bet islands

**Smoke** · 10-15-21, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by Sea Turtle

Anyone know of others sites that were like this one?

Cant imagine SBR would care if you link them if they are not doing offshore anymore.

Don Best

**Runeblade** · 10-15-21, 12:11 PM

**Waterstpub87** · 10-15-21, 12:12 PM

Feels like its over. Offshore betting feels like Saigon 1974 right now. Yea, its still there, but for how long. Bitcoin regs on the horizon vs legal competitors. Its a black day for sure.

**CanuckG** · 10-15-21, 12:13 PM

Had to expect this to happen. SBR isn't dying or going anywhere.

**Microphone** · 10-15-21, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by unlearn

BMR for offshore I guess

Google it guys for those asking.

**KVB** · 10-15-21, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by Waterstpub87

Feels like its over. Offshore betting feels like Saigon 1974 right now. Yea, its still there, but for how long. Bitcoin regs on the horizon vs legal competitors. Its a black day for sure.

Still processing all this info here.

I have been moving onshore with bigger money for a while now.

But I suppose explaining where you got your bitcoin by saying you buy and sell computer parts around the world is out....

**Fishhead** · 10-15-21, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn

Donbest showing the same US books only. Maybe they're buying up all these sportsbook odd sites

Maybe on FREE site, not on PAY

**thezbar** · 10-15-21, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by Microphone

You can probably figure by now I'm in an illegal state.

2025? That's an eternity. And that's assuming all pending bills pass "soon." Take Massachusetts, Home of Draft Kings. There have been 80 different bills sent to the senate floor in the last 3 years after being overwhelming passed to get there and they keep saying there are things more important the sports betting (aka instant revenue).

There are special interest lobbyists in California blocking legal sports betting in this state. It will be a while if ever a bill is passed. So from a personal stand point this isn't great news.
However from a business and legal perspective its a good move for SBR. I get it. The business model seems now to have become very cloudy. Is this site a branch of marketing for USA sites ? A regulatory space for disputes? Aren't there ones available via government structures? Time will tell. Not sure anyone knows at this point.

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**KVB** · 10-15-21, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

Maybe on FREE site, not on PAY

Fish let’s talk Circa Iowa. Can you get down there?

**dculh** · 10-15-21, 12:44 PM

100% percent agree but the one big issue is there are still 20+ states that don't have legal sports gambling. California which has the largest market is one of them and they are at least two years away before it becomes legal. Once sports betting is legal in 45 or more states than yes offshore will not be needed but we are years away from that becoming a reality.

**hubie69** · 10-15-21, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by Microphone

But why not? I keep hearing "in time." I find it hard to believe this decision was made on Labor Day. Many of us are paying members. I think we are entitled to a few more details.

I agree. I cannot provide those. It'd be nice if somebody from SBR would provide those details

**mr. leisure** · 10-15-21, 12:53 PM

I hope they don`t get rid of betpoints

**Easy-Rider 66** · 10-15-21, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by mr. leisure

I hope they don`t get rid of betpoints

yeah was thinking same thing.