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  • Microphone
    SBR MVP
    • 01-08-08
    • 2950

    #246
    Originally posted by jjgold
    Love the move

    If you can’t find odds you’re not too bright and shouldn’t even be Gambling I mean give it up right now eighth graders can do it

    I can find odds pages dumb ass. I'm talking about the SBR (real) Odds page which was a nice perk for the (paying) members. Stop acting like this is some small adjustment and you're all in favor of it.

    In addition to finding odds pages, anyone can search and paste here all of your pro offshore anti U.S based sportsbook posts. Please stop the game of "you could see this coming and I knew all along this is the best way to wager."

    The common questions I see asked here with no answers from SBR are:

    1) Will you still advocate for us with offshore disputes?
    2) Can we get the offshore books back for entertainment purposes only on the odds page (that seems to be a no).
    3) How will contests/betpoints operate from here forward.

    The first two are yes/no answers and the third should take 2-3 sentences to answer.

    C'mon SBR it's not hard. This is a good place with a lot of good people here. You don't need the black eye.
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    • Fishhead
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 08-11-05
      • 40179

      #247
      Originally posted by microphone
      i can find odds pages dumb ass. I'm talking about the sbr (real) odds page which was a nice perk for the (paying) members. Stop acting like this is some small adjustment and you're all in favor of it.

      In addition to finding odds pages, anyone can search and paste here all of your pro offshore anti u.s based sportsbook posts. Please stop the game of "you could see this coming and i knew all along this is the best way to wager."

      the common questions i see asked here with no answers from sbr are:

      1) will you still advocate for us with offshore disputes?
      2) can we get the offshore books back for entertainment purposes only on the odds page (that seems to be a no).
      3) how will contests/betpoints operate from here forward.

      The first two are yes/no answers and the third should take 2-3 sentences to answer.

      C'mon sbr it's not hard. This is a good place with a lot of good people here. You don't need the black eye.



      great post
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      • carolinakid
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-12-11
        • 19106

        #248
        im just happy im drinking a reg coors beer here now and not jim jones juice
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        • Orbison
          SBR MVP
          • 09-07-20
          • 4692

          #249
          USA books outside of Nevada are terrible for the most part and will only get worse

          once you get limited or booted from all your non-Nevada books and if offshore then crumbles once the whole USA has become legal, there will be real value in living in Nevada again
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          • Brock Landers
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 06-30-08
            • 45360

            #250
            Originally posted by jjgold
            Love the move

            If you can’t find odds you’re not too bright and shouldn’t even be Gambling I mean give it up right now eighth graders can do it
            Right, but this leaves SBR as TOTALLY USELESS
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            • carolinakid
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-12-11
              • 19106

              #251
              do the usa books even offer all the games from around the world in every sport???
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              • Ghenghis Kahn
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-02-12
                • 19735

                #252
                Originally posted by Microphone
                I can find odds pages dumb ass. I'm talking about the SBR (real) Odds page which was a nice perk for the (paying) members. Stop acting like this is some small adjustment and you're all in favor of it.

                In addition to finding odds pages, anyone can search and paste here all of your pro offshore anti U.S based sportsbook posts. Please stop the game of "you could see this coming and I knew all along this is the best way to wager."

                The common questions I see asked here with no answers from SBR are:

                1) Will you still advocate for us with offshore disputes?
                2) Can we get the offshore books back for entertainment purposes only on the odds page (that seems to be a no).
                3) How will contests/betpoints operate from here forward.

                The first two are yes/no answers and the third should take 2-3 sentences to answer.

                C'mon SBR it's not hard. This is a good place with a lot of good people here. You don't need the black eye.
                SBR sold-out and their flip-flopping front man is just trying to divert attention.

                They used to advocate for offshore books and overnight, they're saying offshore books are no good and US books are the best.

                They think we're idiots. You know how politics works. Pay people and you own them...
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                • Microphone
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-08-08
                  • 2950

                  #253
                  I'm not sure about others, but I found the SBR odds page to be a great resource. Gave me everything I needed and for my 13 years at SBR and my level of wagering, SBR odds was all I needed to read lines, find line movement and get good historical info. When it was working, and this faded over the last 6-12 months. But still a tool useful to most.

                  Now, you're asking a lot of people to change their habits of line shopping and comparison right in the middle of the busiest time of the sports year with all 4 major sports going. Go try a different free or pay service, set your books and alerts up, and don't worry about the time to do that or the learning curve involved, you'll be fine.

                  Thanks for the heads up.
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                  • Ghenghis Kahn
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-02-12
                    • 19735

                    #254
                    Originally posted by jjgold
                    Having a lot of money is the worst thing that can happen it’s the ruination of many many people
                    Originally posted by jjgold
                    Don’t make money your God
                    Originally posted by jjgold
                    Do not make money your God
                    Oh the irony!
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                    • Ghenghis Kahn
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-02-12
                      • 19735

                      #255
                      Yes, the classic SBR Odds page was the best. I never got used to the new one
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                      • Fishhead
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 08-11-05
                        • 40179

                        #256
                        Originally posted by Brock Landers
                        Right, but this leaves SBR as TOTALLY USELESS
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                        • Orbison
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-07-20
                          • 4692

                          #257
                          Originally posted by Brock Landers
                          Right, but this leaves SBR as TOTALLY USELESS
                          Brock are you paying for a line service now?
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                          • gauchojake
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 09-17-10
                            • 34103

                            #258
                            Brick has fisher's PW
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                            • Brock Landers
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 06-30-08
                              • 45360

                              #259
                              Originally posted by Orbison
                              Brock are you paying for a line service now?
                              hell no

                              The wager web free lines are all anyone really needs
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                              • OTWinner
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 05-09-18
                                • 120

                                #260
                                One the the main reasons for coming to SBR is to see the lines at pinnacle, bookmaker and all others. Eliminate that and Sbrodds is totally Useless.
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                                • PharaohUB
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-23-07
                                  • 4865

                                  #261
                                  Originally posted by indio
                                  You're the epitome of a clueless square, just the kind of saps that the corporate monopolist "sports books" thrive on.

                                  "Crypto huge pain in the ass these days" - Crypto is the easiest thing in the world, I can move money in and out of books in sheer minutes and the fess are miniscule. And what mysterious crypto "list" are you referring to that you can be put on that you seem so worried about?

                                  "Everything legal" - It's NEVER been illegal to bet with an offshore bookmaker genius, it's only "illegal" to take wagers from certain places, and even then you need at least 5 people in the operation to break Federal statutes.

                                  "Guaranteed money is safe" - Read the fine print, these "legal" US sportsbook can confiscate your funds and close your accounts for just about any reason they want (including simply being a smart bettor). Conversely, I've been betting and playing poker regularly offshore since 1999, and NEVER had even a measly dollar lost or stolen from me, and while a lot of that is both due diligence (with the help of SBR's constant pulse of the industry) on my part and good luck, it also shows that if you're on top of things, your money was always as safe as it could relatively be offshore.

                                  "Enough books you can line shop and get a decent line"- These books are not real books, they are corporate recreational entertainment sites, which means if you make significant wagers, or actually treat it as a market, THEY WILL LIMIT YOU OR CLOSE YOUR ACCOUNT. There is not a single US book that a serious sports bettor is allowed to play at, only suckers are wanted. That's about as un-American (back when America used to represent free markets) as can be, which is fitting since most of these " legal sports books" you love so much are owned by foreign billionaire's and Larry Fink's banks through stock ownership.
                                  Well that might be the dumbest post in the history of SBR.

                                  Would you like to see the letters IRS sent me because I bought bitcoin on coinbase a few years back ? You don’t know who you can trust in that industry. And you have to be really careful. Fck alll that nonsense. Why deal with it when I don’t have to. Not to mention having to track and keep record of every transaction. The US books do that for me and don’t hide my betting history from me if it’s more than two weeks old. I’ve been into crypto since 2011 when you didn’t even know what it was. so you don’t need to lecture me boy.

                                  Crypto most certainly is a pain in the ass. Over the years most of the convenient places to get Bitcoin quick have banned me for gambling with it. If I bust or win turning Bitcoin into cash and vice versa will easily cost me 10-15% in fees by the time I’m done with it and everyone gets their cut along the way. Maybe 5% if I want to wait a week. If I want to play a game and see a line I like at an onshore book I click a button and thirty seconds later my account is funded. No fees. No secret cut being taken by the book by taking whatever spot rate they want in Bitcoin. No BS.

                                  The lines are just fine onshore Take a look sometime and stop talking out of your ass.

                                  Please tell me one person who has reported being limited. I can find about 10 million offshore. Just one on SBR? Point me to post please ?

                                  And you think Fanduel is going to run off with someone’s money to save a few bucks and risk the PR?

                                  I mean based on your original post you have an IQ of about 7 so you probably don’t understand any of this.
                                  Last edited by PharaohUB; 10-16-21, 01:26 PM.
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                                  • stake1
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-19-18
                                    • 18116

                                    #262
                                    Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                    hell no

                                    The wager web free lines are all anyone really needs
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                                    • goduke
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 02-17-10
                                      • 11580

                                      #263
                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                      Love the move

                                      If you can’t find odds you’re not too bright and shouldn’t even be Gambling I mean give it up right now eighth graders can do it
                                      paid post
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                                      • Fishhead
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 08-11-05
                                        • 40179

                                        #264
                                        Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                        hell no

                                        The wager web free lines are all anyone really needs

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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388189

                                          #265
                                          Pros and cons to both

                                          We take the mid range approach now

                                          MRA.....my new name
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                                          • Fishhead
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 08-11-05
                                            • 40179

                                            #266
                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                            Pros and cons to both

                                            We take the mid range approach now

                                            MRA.....my new name
                                            Just quit and call it a career.
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                                            • TheMoneyShot
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 02-14-07
                                              • 28672

                                              #267


                                              Is everyone getting this error message when they try to navigate through SBR Odds now? I'm not even in New Jersey. I'm in Michigan. But I can't even see any odds now.
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                                              • Roger T. Bannon
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 06-28-18
                                                • 5139

                                                #268
                                                I've always used SBR Odds so am really sideswiped by the move. Don't even know what I am looking at.

                                                But SBR has the right to do what they want. If they are moving to US or have sold to someone else, more power to them.

                                                If you they have sold and not even making decisions, you are barking up the wrong tree.

                                                Time will tell what happens here. I'm keeping an open mind.
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                                                • fried cheese
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 09-17-13
                                                  • 4459

                                                  #269
                                                  Originally posted by TheMoneyShot


                                                  Is everyone getting this error message when they try to navigate through SBR Odds now? I'm not even in New Jersey. I'm in Michigan. But I can't even see any odds now.
                                                  i get it off and on and im not even near new jersey.
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                                                  • Orbison
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 09-07-20
                                                    • 4692

                                                    #270
                                                    does SBR own The Rx?
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                                                    • Roger T. Bannon
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 06-28-18
                                                      • 5139

                                                      #271
                                                      Originally posted by Orbison
                                                      does SBR own The Rx?
                                                      No, they sold it for $2M.
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                                                      • manny24
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 10-22-07
                                                        • 20046

                                                        #272
                                                        Originally posted by opie1988
                                                        We are beyond excited for this next chapter. SBR remains dedicated to leading, not following.

                                                        Let’s go boys. What a time to be alive.
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                                                        • Brock Landers
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 06-30-08
                                                          • 45360

                                                          #273
                                                          Originally posted by TheMoneyShot


                                                          Is everyone getting this error message when they try to navigate through SBR Odds now? I'm not even in New Jersey. I'm in Michigan. But I can't even see any odds now.
                                                          LOL F uck SBR Odds
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                                                          • Brock Landers
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 06-30-08
                                                            • 45360

                                                            #274
                                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                                            Pros and cons to both

                                                            We take the mid range approach now

                                                            MRA.....my new name
                                                            There's NO PRO to this move you fuckin shill
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                                                            • Orbison
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-07-20
                                                              • 4692

                                                              #275
                                                              Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                                                              No, they sold it for $2M.
                                                              any idea to whom?
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                                                              • Brock Landers
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 06-30-08
                                                                • 45360

                                                                #276
                                                                Originally posted by Orbison
                                                                any idea to whom?
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                                                                • thechaoz
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 10-23-09
                                                                  • 12155

                                                                  #277
                                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                  Love the move

                                                                  If you can’t find odds you’re not too bright and shouldn’t even be Gambling I mean give it up right now eighth graders can do it
                                                                  It's not about that. It's about seeing ALL the odds for customized sites and movements, spreads, MLs, and live scores all on a single page. A major business opportunity for someone has arisen.

                                                                  Nothing I can do but if SBR ditches points/poker/contests/etc they are absolutely dead.

                                                                  I doubt they would kill themselves because that would just make it R*X for Cobvers and I don't even know if they are running anymore?
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                                                                  • thechaoz
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 10-23-09
                                                                    • 12155

                                                                    #278
                                                                    Originally posted by gshock1
                                                                    Just awful. I live in NJ and use Bookmaker and Heritage because they have great odds, fast payouts and accept high limits. I used to have BOL, but they stopped servicing NJ.

                                                                    2 years ago i signed up with various US books in NJ and got limited to $25 real fast after i went on a sick run. These are marketing shops that cater to the recreational bettor and don't like winners. Bookmaker has never limited me.

                                                                    This is a sad day.
                                                                    I'm in NJ and I don't even recognize the 4 books they are showing me. I mostly bet offshore and use FD/DK for Daily fantasy
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                                                                    • Roger T. Bannon
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 06-28-18
                                                                      • 5139

                                                                      #279
                                                                      Originally posted by Orbison
                                                                      any idea to whom?
                                                                      Some Dr. that wanted it to flip it to a pharma company in the future.
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                                                                      • stake1
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 12-19-18
                                                                        • 18116

                                                                        #280
                                                                        Originally posted by Orbison
                                                                        any idea to whom?
                                                                        Roy: does not matter. if you look at that site? it is 100% awful. only good thing about it is broke landers is perma-banned there
                                                                        Their main forum's first page? it has threads from this past tuesday
                                                                        place is a graveyard and their sport sub forums are also in awful shape
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