USA books should follow CIRCA MODEL......OFFSHORE books should follow BETONLINE MODEL

**thetrinity** · 10-19-21, 09:50 AM

They should hire people with 3 digit iqs to start

**jjgold** · 10-19-21, 10:04 AM

Circa model makes peanuts usa

Circa model only for 1% of gamblers

Fandual and DraftKings for 99%

High hold percentages is what works

Most gamblers do not care

Thread over

**d2bets** · 10-19-21, 10:12 AM

All of the above.

Different books can have different goals and models. There is never going to be one model for all. The key is for states to have/allow as many player options as possible. A wide variety of available outs. The worst thing would be for one company to gobble up all others. So far looks pretty good on this front, but we'll see. Would like to see all states have double digit options for players.

**Fishhead** · 10-19-21, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Circa model makes peanuts usa

Circa model only for 1% of gamblers

Fandual and DraftKings for 99%

High hold percentages is what works

Most gamblers do not care

Thread over

I guess CIRCA has no financial input into SBR yet, huh MR. SCHILL ???

This kid jjgold would sell his own brother if he could make a buck or two.

**Fishhead** · 10-19-21, 10:15 AM

As little as 7 days ago JJGOLD ripping USA BASED BOOKS............now they're mysteriously the greatest thing since sliced bread.

**jjgold** · 10-19-21, 10:19 AM

Circa manager..3 inch cok brags we have no limits

great maybe for an arber or a guy that takes leads that is it
This is the guy that drives one of those muscle cars with tires JACKED OFF GROUND

Fandual and Draftkings monopoly on the market and getting worse

WHY????????????????? PEOPLE LIKE PERKS AND FREE MONEY NOT 20, 000 Limits baseball games

that appeals to 1%

**Fishhead** · 10-19-21, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

circa manager..3 inch cok brags we have no limits

great maybe for an arber or a guy that takes leads that is it
this is the guy that drives one of those muscle cars with tires jacked off ground

fandual and draftkings monopoly on the market and getting worse

why????????????????? People like perks and free money not 20, 000 limits baseball games

that appeals to 1%

you know shit about circa, shut your trap

**Fishhead** · 10-19-21, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by Fishhead

As little as 7 days ago JJGOLD ripping USA BASED BOOKS............now they're mysteriously the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Did JJGOLD have his hundreds of posts slamming USA BOOKS deleted, or did SBR take action on this themselves??????????????

Everyday the past 5 months, 10-20 posts degrading the USA MARKET

**jjgold** · 10-19-21, 10:30 AM

We are in talks with major usa books to get margins tighter

Always been my only issue

**Fishhead** · 10-19-21, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

We are in talks with major usa books to get margins tighter

FANTASTIC, other than you, who else behind the scenes at SBR is leading this charge????????

**GoBlue23** · 10-19-21, 10:41 AM

Heritage and BETONLINE all the way for me until Fishy says otherwise

**jjgold** · 10-19-21, 10:46 AM

The Circa model will change in Vegas once the real big boys come in

VSIN guys were hammering GM Circa a few weeks back saying shut your trap your model will not work when the big Giants come to town

**physed** · 10-19-21, 10:59 AM

When will Fan Duel and Draft Kings come to Vegas

**jjgold** · 10-19-21, 11:12 AM

They are trying

NEVADA trying to keep them out because going to take 60% of volume away from everyone else

ALTHOUGH THEY ARE COMING within year

**Brock Landers** · 10-19-21, 11:19 AM

Fan duel lines are laughably bad

Circa is extremely impressive

**jjgold** · 10-19-21, 11:27 AM

The lowest margin book in Pennsylvania get the least amount of volume go figure

**RoyBacon** · 10-19-21, 01:06 PM

Bookmaker and Betonline and Heritage.

If the line is the same I'll go with BM. If I have ANY problem they take care of it right away. 5 figure payout? Don't have to speak to a human and never late.

**CanuckG** · 10-19-21, 01:09 PM

Circa is great. They don't offer nearly as many markets as DK/FD/MGM which is why a lot of rec handle goes to those big books. If you want to bet on the core markets (ML/Spread/Totals) then yes Circa is great. If you're looking for anything else you're going to use the other books.

**Fishhead** · 10-19-21, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by CanuckG

Circa is great. They don't offer nearly as many markets as DK/FD/MGM which is why a lot of rec handle goes to those big books. If you want to bet on the core markets (ML/Spread/Totals) then yes Circa is great. If you're looking for anything else you're going to use the other books.

VERY fair statements.

Circa does have many YES/NO markets on futures which great is though, a little surprised more shops don't offer this option.

As bad as lines are at DK, they do have some shaded games across their betting boards that are very good.

**CanuckG** · 10-19-21, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

VERY fair statements.

Circa does have many YES/NO markets on futures which great though, a little surprised more shops don't offer this option.

Yes majority of legalized books only offer ONE SIDED markets which is a sham. If you're going to post up a yes side you should also offer a no side. Circa the only ones to do so.

**Fishhead** · 10-19-21, 01:14 PM

CIRCA has OKIE STATE +250 right now

Pinny +213, BOL +220

**CanuckG** · 10-19-21, 01:15 PM

Can see fanduel just has so many more of these props. If Circa had 100 more employees they could play ball here but they have said many times they're just looking to focus on a few markets and be good at those vs offering 300 markets and guessing on half of them.

**CanuckG** · 10-19-21, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

CIRCA has OKIE STATE +250 right now

Pinny +213, BOL +220

Circa lean towards ISU

**KVB** · 10-19-21, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

CIRCA has OKIE STATE +250 right now

Pinny +213, BOL +220

nom nom nom

**KVB** · 10-19-21, 01:22 PM

Bettors need to be glad the sportsbooks are trying to serve different communities but are also in competition with each other.

I keep trying to tell you guys that when the books have to compete for our business, we as bettors get a favorable market. We win.

**Fishhead** · 10-19-21, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by KVB

Bettors need to be glad the sportsbooks are trying to serve different communities but are also in competition with each other.

I keep trying to tell you guys that when the books have to compete for our business, we as bettors get a favorable market. We win.

**jjgold** · 10-19-21, 02:08 PM

YES /No Markets would be a massive hit

**gshock1** · 10-19-21, 02:25 PM

Fish, you are now the player advocate for us that play with top offshores.

**KVB** · 10-19-21, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

The lowest margin book in Pennsylvania get the least amount of volume go figure

Originally posted by KVB

...This completely reminds me of the time I was talking to the pit boss at Harrah’s up at Lake Tahoe, we’re standing next to an empty blackjack pays 3 to 2 table, completely empty while the blackjack pays 6-5 table had a bunch of kids around it and people standing behind waiting for a seat.

The pit boss was just laughing and I was laughing with him.

These on shore American companies are insulting the sports bettors with a clue.

**jjgold** · 10-19-21, 02:26 PM

Canuck nailed it
Circa does not represent 99% of players

Mike Corbin
File Clerk
Play USA TEAM

**lonegambler23** · 10-19-21, 05:12 PM

fish worry about getting vaccinated man

**KiDBaZkiT** · 10-19-21, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Circa manager..3 inch cok brags we have no limits

great maybe for an arber or a guy that takes leads that is it
This is the guy that drives one of those muscle cars with tires JACKED OFF GROUND

Fandual and Draftkings monopoly on the market and getting worse

WHY????????????????? PEOPLE LIKE PERKS AND FREE MONEY NOT 20, 000 Limits baseball games

that appeals to 1%

Gold how much are you getting paid to flex for DK and FD?

**jjgold** · 10-19-21, 05:25 PM

BAZ nothing man

CALL ME

**Fishhead** · 10-19-21, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by lonegambler23

fish worry about getting vaccinated man

First time thought about it in 6 weeks with your post.