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  • SBR_John
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-12-05
    • 16471

    #1
    "I worked for Wayne Root, let me tell you about it".
    The Real Wayne Root

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    I worked for Wayne Root for the football season in 2001. Since that time I do my own capping. I may not have made much money but boy did I learn that you want to stay as far away from an operation like this as you can. Here's what I learned.
    1. His operation is a boiler room. You are given a script. You sell up front then one day after the sale the reloaders work on getting the customer to sign up for Wayne's eight other level's of games. We lied about Wayne's record all the time. Unless you told a potential client that Wayne hit 70% or higher you couldn't get any money.As soon as we finished selling someone for Wayne Root then he was handed to another salesman for one of Wayne's five other companies. The picks were losing so bad during the four months I was there that guys were giving out what they liked. It was the only way to stop a mutiny.
    2. Wayne was a bigger liar than the salesman. If he had a newspaper guy on the phone he would say stuff that was totally untrue. He once told a guy that we had over 100 salesman at that time. I counted desks and office staff. It was 45 people.
    3. He wrote and published a book within the last year. I talked to someone at the Gambler's Warehouse last month and asked how many copies were sold nationally. His answer was they had three copies of the b ook a month ago and still had three copies. I said "could he have sold more than a thousand copies nationally?". His answer was, "probably not". I'm sure Wayne will never give out figures on the number of copies sold.
    4. He switches TV stations in which he puts his 30 minute infomertial on Saturday mornings every year. Here's the reason is he isn't getting the desired results? Whether it's WGN, Spike TV or a national cable sports network, it never is enough to make him happy. Unless he gets on ESPN he's not going to make enough money to pay for the outragious price it costs to produce and buy time.
    5. He doesn't even bet the games he gives to his clients. Once in an interview he even admitted it. Whay would anyone in their right mind pay someone for selections they didn't feel strongly enough to bet? They would have to be a moron and be totally new to betting or using a tout.
    Wayne Root is a pathological liar who loved himself. He's not an idiot and can sell a deal and make things happen for a while. I think eventually his company will crumble and he will try to move on to something else. Anyone who buys his stock should have their head examined. It's at .04 cents for a reason. It could be delisted any day now.
    -Ex Wayne Root employee
    -------------------------------------------------------
    source: gambling911.com
  • bigboydan
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-10-05
    • 55420

    #2
    i guess i shouldn't be buying any stock in "gwin" then uh
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    • Illusion
      Restricted User
      • 08-09-05
      • 25166

      #3
      I like him, he's one of the best fades on the planet.:0
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      • denn333
        SBR MVP
        • 09-16-05
        • 1191

        #4
        he has good hair, i am follicly challenged and can appreciate that.
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        • pags11
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 08-18-05
          • 12264

          #5
          sbrjohn...thanks for this article...bringing back memories of Two For the Money...
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          • Snowball
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 11-15-09
            • 30040

            #6
            Originally posted by bigboydan
            i guess i shouldn't be buying any stock in "gwin" then uh
            here is a link to current info on Wayne's company as it is.. W Technologies ticker WTCG.

            just did a nice fat 1 for 200 share Reverse Split.

            Lather, Rinse, Repeat.. issue and sell more stock over and over again
            - just one way this crook finances his lifestyle



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            • wtf
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 08-22-08
              • 12983

              #7
              oh the FACTS i can tell you about this piece of filth

              he once told me personally that the movie "two for the money" is ABOUT HIM
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              • underthe total
                Restricted User
                • 05-29-10
                • 1487

                #8
                i am totally against all touts.
                i am interested in predicted line movements or someone who can make a better line
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                • Br0nxer
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 03-25-11
                  • 13665

                  #9
                  never f*kkin heard of him or the OP
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                  • clarkd32
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 09-15-06
                    • 863

                    #10
                    some who consistently loses is just as valuable as someone who wins...
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                    • Jonah
                      SBR MVP
                      • 10-21-09
                      • 4042

                      #11
                      Is this the guy who owns root sports?
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                      • biggie12
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 12-30-05
                        • 13781

                        #12
                        GREAT READ JOHN, ive dealt with him a few times in the past years ago.
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                        • ttwarrior1
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 06-23-09
                          • 28439

                          #13
                          a post from 5 years ago and people in here don't even know it
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                          • billsfan12
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 10-08-09
                            • 233

                            #14
                            Dealings of despair
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                            • Gonad
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-17-10
                              • 1100

                              #15
                              Shit, I voted this guy for President... No, seriously...
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                              • sweethook
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 11-21-07
                                • 12667

                                #16
                                nice
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                                • Smoke
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-09-09
                                  • 48111

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by ttwarrior1
                                  a post from 5 years ago and people in here don't even know it
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                                  • str
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-12-09
                                    • 11503

                                    #18
                                    Never read this before so thanks John.

                                    Not at all surprised. You can tell after a minute with guys like him that he is completely full of crap.
                                    Was around plenty of these types during my years at the track.These people usually surface at Preakness time in Maryland.Pretty sure he was there several times in the 2 weeks leading up.Certainly Mike W was.
                                    Sad that they do sucker some people .
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                                    • Doc JS
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 09-15-06
                                      • 6885

                                      #19
                                      Caveat Emptor...

                                      Always a good, no, a great policy to live by...

                                      Doc
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                                      • mighty maron
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 04-20-09
                                        • 4215

                                        #20
                                        Enjoyable read......suspected but good to hear from someone who was there
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                                        • anthonydiamondLC
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-02-08
                                          • 2296

                                          #21
                                          Root is not bad in college football. That is the only sport I would monitor what hes on.
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                                          • thetrinity
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 01-25-11
                                            • 22430

                                            #22
                                            how is this news? you could put any touts name in for waynes and it would be a true story.
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                                            • Reno Paul
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-11-10
                                              • 1647

                                              #23
                                              Wonder if Root uses a dart board then laughs his way to the bank???
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                                              • PingPong
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 11-10-08
                                                • 988

                                                #24
                                                how do you get one of these touts to call you? I'm really bored right now
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                                                • dtp
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 09-17-09
                                                  • 2106

                                                  #25
                                                  Wow this is sounds like a horrendous operation. Thanks for the info.
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                                                  • muldoon
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-04-10
                                                    • 4397

                                                    #26
                                                    People seriously sound surprised?

                                                    Between the well oiler boiler room and his cash grab through patent lawsuits, WAR is convinced people want him to be president.

                                                    Things are bad - but they ain't THAT $@$!#!@# bad.
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                                                    • GGZOLA
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 06-30-06
                                                      • 1118

                                                      #27
                                                      cant believe this is news, its like saying the sun is up today.
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                                                      • kfranz31
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-09-10
                                                        • 1186

                                                        #28
                                                        thats a great read old or not....anyone else work for any touts.....i never saw any job postings for these guys in las vegas.....why pay anyone to lose money for u
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                                                        • thisisit
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 08-01-10
                                                          • 733

                                                          #29
                                                          Love this guy his is the perfect tout. We had a guy in Cleveland would say its not a game we can win its a game we can't lose lol.
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                                                          • muldoon
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-04-10
                                                            • 4397

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by PingPong
                                                            how do you get one of these touts to call you? I'm really bored right now
                                                            Many ways.

                                                            Sign up for a newsletter which also asks for your phone #.

                                                            Call a free picks number and don't block your number.
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                                                            • Sportsguy_USA
                                                              SBR Hustler
                                                              • 09-29-10
                                                              • 59

                                                              #31
                                                              Boiler room antics. Seen a few circuits like that, even a guy that runs it out of his basement with 10 flatscreen monitors with stock market candlestick charts running, monster cigar, etc. He worked every angle and exhausted his client base. You can win for a bit...but takes more than a pony show or magic ball to keep picking them. Over the years, I've seen them all...and confident to say there are est. 10% in the market that are good. The rest...like this tout....lets let his results speak for him...never know...you could have been fired and disgruntle. lol. But I'm onthe same page....I've heard this before about this tout.
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                                                              • jjgold
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 07-20-05
                                                                • 388189

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                                The Real Wayne Root

                                                                --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                                I worked for Wayne Root for the football season in 2001. Since that time I do my own capping. I may not have made much money but boy did I learn that you want to stay as far away from an operation like this as you can. Here's what I learned.
                                                                1. His operation is a boiler room. You are given a script. You sell up front then one day after the sale the reloaders work on getting the customer to sign up for Wayne's eight other level's of games. We lied about Wayne's record all the time. Unless you told a potential client that Wayne hit 70% or higher you couldn't get any money.As soon as we finished selling someone for Wayne Root then he was handed to another salesman for one of Wayne's five other companies. The picks were losing so bad during the four months I was there that guys were giving out what they liked. It was the only way to stop a mutiny.
                                                                2. Wayne was a bigger liar than the salesman. If he had a newspaper guy on the phone he would say stuff that was totally untrue. He once told a guy that we had over 100 salesman at that time. I counted desks and office staff. It was 45 people.
                                                                3. He wrote and published a book within the last year. I talked to someone at the Gambler's Warehouse last month and asked how many copies were sold nationally. His answer was they had three copies of the b ook a month ago and still had three copies. I said "could he have sold more than a thousand copies nationally?". His answer was, "probably not". I'm sure Wayne will never give out figures on the number of copies sold.
                                                                4. He switches TV stations in which he puts his 30 minute infomertial on Saturday mornings every year. Here's the reason is he isn't getting the desired results? Whether it's WGN, Spike TV or a national cable sports network, it never is enough to make him happy. Unless he gets on ESPN he's not going to make enough money to pay for the outragious price it costs to produce and buy time.
                                                                5. He doesn't even bet the games he gives to his clients. Once in an interview he even admitted it. Whay would anyone in their right mind pay someone for selections they didn't feel strongly enough to bet? They would have to be a moron and be totally new to betting or using a tout.
                                                                Wayne Root is a pathological liar who loved himself. He's not an idiot and can sell a deal and make things happen for a while. I think eventually his company will crumble and he will try to move on to something else. Anyone who buys his stock should have their head examined. It's at .04 cents for a reason. It could be delisted any day now.
                                                                -Ex Wayne Root employee
                                                                -------------------------------------------------------
                                                                source: gambling911.com


                                                                No touts bet period
                                                                Almost every tout does the above
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                                                                • Wrigley
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 12-28-07
                                                                  • 7268

                                                                  #33
                                                                  John is this really his house and were you ever in it?
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                                                                  • will2survive
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 11-26-09
                                                                    • 8106

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Does anyone remember the handicapping show on the USA Network in the 80's where Root would have his "Doesn't make sense bet".....if it doesn't make sense, don't bet it. He would sell himself on that show. Feist was my favorite. Root seemed unknowledgable
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                                                                    • Wrigley
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 12-28-07
                                                                      • 7268

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by will2survive
                                                                      Does anyone remember the handicapping show on the USA Network in the 80's where Root would have his "Doesn't make sense bet".....if it doesn't make sense, don't bet it. He would sell himself on that show. Feist was my favorite. Root seemed unknowledgable
                                                                      wasnt he one of the anchors on scoreline I think that is what the show was called
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