DeMar DeRozan

[stevenash]

You don't have a TV do you?

[stevenash]

Denver was losing the 4th quarter because - once again- Jokic is horrible defensively.

Either,
a) You really don't own a TV
or
b) You really make stuff up out of thin air.

Jokic didn't enter the fourth until there were seven minutes left, like usual.
Denver was up one point when he came in, they won by six points, the dagger being Jokic blocking Fox's ten foot jumper down low that would have put Sacramento up one.
Something you said he can't do.

So, let's recap, in clutch time, game pretty much even when Jokic came in, Jokic was +5, and the key play of the game was Jokic blocking Fox's shot, that was the defensive play of the game.

Another lie out of your mouth exposed, all you do is lie and when you're done lying you lie some more.
And I'm not the only one saying that, look around other threads pal.

Just stop talking.

[thomorino]

Either,
a) You really don't own a TV
or
b) You really make stuff up out of thin air.

Jokic didn't enter the fourth until there were seven minutes left, like usual.
Denver was up one point when he came in, they won by six points, the dagger being Jokic blocking Fox's ten foot jumper down low that would have put Sacramento up one.
Something you said he can't do.

So, let's recap, in clutch time, game pretty much even when Jokic came in, Jokic was +5, and the key play of the game was Jokic blocking Fox's shot, that was the defensive play of the game.

Another lie out of your mouth exposed, all you do is lie and when you're done lying you lie some more.
And I'm not the only one saying that, look around other threads pal.

Just stop talking.

Again, Jokic doesn't play much defense, his plus and minus wasn't very good the first 3 quarters because of that, and that's why his team was losing to one of the worst teams in basketball going into the 4th.

Embiid protects the paint and is elite defensively, he's the better player than Jokic, he's more valuable too. It's not that close either.

[stevenash]

Stop lying.

Keep talking, I'm not buying what you're selling and nobody else is either.
Bye

[thomorino]

Stop lying.

Keep talking, I'm not buying what you're selling and nobody else is either.
Bye

Jokic is at an average defender. Embiid is a top defender. Embiid, again, has been all-defense 3 times.

[thomorino]

Typical Jokic game.

He has 8 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists, but was negative 5 on the court because he plays no defense.

Embiid has had the clearly better season than Jokic for 3 reasons.

Better defender, far more physical player, Embiid dominates inside, and strength of schedule.

The second best team in the West recordwise is Memphis, the top 4 teams in the East would all sweep Memphis in a 7 game series.

Embiid's schedule has been far harder than Jokic's schedule - far harder

[stevenash]

Typical Jokic game.

He has 8 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists, but was negative 5 on the court because he plays no defense.

Embiid has had the clearly better season than Jokic for 3 reasons.

Better defender, far more physical player, Embiid dominates inside, and strength of schedule.

The second best team in the West recordwise is Memphis, the top 4 teams in the East would all sweep Memphis in a 7 game series.

Embiid's schedule has been far harder than Jokic's schedule - far harder

WTF are you talking about.

STOP LYING

Embid was -30 and shot 29 percent from the field and looked like horseshit with those four turnovers.
-30 29%
29 percent is pretty much the success rate of your selections.

Yep, typical 23/12/9 one short of a triple/double (again) night.
where you getting 8/5/2 from?
STOP LYING
JUST STOP
It's like you're lying on purpose now.

[thomorino]

WTF are you talking about.

STOP LYING

Embid was -30 and shot 29 percent from the field and looked like horseshit with those four turnovers.
-30 29%
29 percent is pretty much the success rate of your selections.

Yep, typical 23/12/9 one short of a triple/double (again) night.
where you getting 8/5/2 from?
STOP LYING
JUST STOP
It's like you're lying on purpose now.

Harden was trash, Embiid was fine, he was just doubled on every play, Embiid still scored 27 and 12 on an off night.

Jokic struggled against Kevan Looney.

Embiid is so much better than Jokic at this point its not a debate. Strength of schedule is glaring between the 2.

[stevenash]

Strength of schedule is glaring between the 2.

Lie #6 this week.

By glaring you mean virtually even?

STOP LYING.
.005 separates the two strength of schedule.
All you is lie, and when your'e done lying you lie some more.
And it's so easy to expose your lies too.

http://www.espn.com/nba/stats/rpi

Try again, no better yet, stop talking.

[oldmanTED]

Don't watch much NBA anymore but did watch the 2nd half of the Warriors game last night,
and Jokic had a terrible,terrible last 6 minutes of the game. Doesn't mean much for MVP for the year
but I wasn't impressed.

[stevenash]

Don't watch much NBA anymore but did watch the 2nd half of the Warriors game last night,
and Jokic had a terrible,terrible last 6 minutes of the game. Doesn't mean much for MVP for the year
but I wasn't impressed.

And Embid sucked ass with his 29 percent shooting.
Without FT shooting, he's be run of the mill.
Embid was -30

[thomorino]

And Embid sucked ass with his 29 percent shooting.
Without FT shooting, he's be run of the mill.
Embid was -30

Embiid struggled because he was doubled on every play, Jokic struggled because Kevan Looney made him his bitch.

Just stop, you don't know what you are talking about.

[thomorino]

Lie #6 this week.

By glaring you mean virtually even?

STOP LYING.
.005 separates the two strength of schedule.
All you is lie, and when your'e done lying you lie some more.
And it's so easy to expose your lies too.

http://www.espn.com/nba/stats/rpi

Try again, no better yet, stop talking.

That's wrong.

Again, you don't know how to read stats.

Philadelphia just played Brooklyn, a team with Kyrie and Durant - obviously that won't show up as Philadelphia playing the best team in the league because of how bad Brooklyn's records is since they had injuries before.

The East is far stronger than the West, and again, its not close. Just because Western conference teams like Memphis have better records than most Eastern conference teams because their schedule is so easy doesn't mean they are better teams.

When you look at strength of schedule and adjust for how much stronger the East is than the West, there is no comparison.

You can't just look at strength of schedule by looking at the record of the team you are playing.

Again, your stats are superficial garbage.

[thomorino]

You can't adjust strength of schedule for the difference between the conferences, because of course there are teams in both conferences with good records, but the west is far weaker.

[stevenash]

You can't adjust strength of schedule for the difference between the conferences, because of course there are teams in both conferences with good records, but the west is far weaker.

Blockhead.
Teams from the west play teams from the east,
I can't believe you don't understand that.
(well, yeah I can)

Stop deflecting.
Stop lying.

This is the updated Sos as of right now based on who every team has played against.
I repeat, teams from the west do play teams from the east.

You truly have no idea how this works.

http://www.espn.com/nba/stats/rpi

[stevenash]

Embiid struggled because he was doubled on every play, Jokic struggled because Kevan Looney made him his bitch.

Just stop, you don't know what you are talking about.

You didn't even watch the game.
If you did you would have know the stat line.

Stop lying,

[jjgold]

Like Is said J Morant is the real mvp

[stevenash]

Like Is said J Morant is the real mvp

Jokic
Gianis
Morant
Embid

Embid has looked like horseshit lately Coach.

[thomorino]

Blockhead.
Teams from the west play teams from the east,
I can't believe you don't understand that.
(well, yeah I can)

Stop deflecting.
Stop lying.

This is the updated Sos as of right now based on who every team has played against.
I repeat, teams from the west do play teams from the east.

You truly have no idea how this works.

http://www.espn.com/nba/stats/rpi

You didn't even watch the game.
If you did you would have know the stat line.

Stop lying,

Jokic had 2 points in the 4th quarter because he couldn't score against Kevan Looney - pathetic.

Strength of schedule does not adjust for the difference between the conferences because obviously teams plays teams in their conference much more than they play teams in the other conference - so if you just go by record, like a simple person like you does, again, SOS does not adjust for the huge, huge difference this year between the conferences.

[thomorino]

Jokic
Gianis
Morant
Embid

Embid has looked like horseshit lately Coach.

He scored 43 less than a week ago - just stop. Your lying is obvious.

[stevenash]

He scored 43 less than a week ago - just stop. Your lying is obvious.

Doesn't matter what you call me, you have less than zero integrity, and a proven liar.

I had to explain to you last year when the cutoff time is for NBA games, you lied about that.
I have to explain to you how SoS works.

You lied about Bridgewater, I exposed you on that.
You're a liar, that's all you do, and nobody believes you.

[thomorino]

Doesn't matter what you call me, you have less than zero integrity, and a proven liar.

I had to explain to you last year when the cutoff time is for NBA games, you lied about that.
I have to explain to you how SoS works.

You lied about Bridgewater, I exposed you on that.
You're a liar, that's all you do, and nobody believes you.

are not a

And you still don't understand strength of schedule.

If bad teams play each other all year - like the West except for 4 teams, some will have good records, that doesn't make them good, it just means they aren't horrible.

Teams like Memphis that aren't that good have good records because the West is trash this year, the East is the deepest the conference has been in decades.

So just looking at record is not a good way to determine strength of schedule since teams play most of their games in conference.

This isn't very hard.

[Buckandadime]

You can't adjust strength of schedule for the difference between the conferences, because of course there are teams in both conferences with good records, but the west is far weaker.

Maybe you can explain to us why the East vs West this year is 176-187(48.4%)..
Seems like the West would be slightly stronger..(3%)
Certainly not far weaker like you said..
Is my math correct?

[stevenash]

Maybe you can explain to us why the East vs West this year is 176-187(48.4%)..
Seems like the West would be slightly stronger..(3%)
Certainly not far weaker like you said..
Is my math correct?

I'm tired of explaining everything to him,

Exposing the liar for liar like Creighton exposed Providence never gets old.
He doesn't understand how both SoS works, and clearly doesn't understand how math works.

What's the difference between Embid's shooting percentage last game (29 percent) and his success rate n picking NBA games?
A. Nothing.

*mic drop*
OUT

[Buckandadime]

I'm tired of explaining everything to him,

Exposing the liar for liar like Creighton exposed Providence never gets old.
He doesn't understand how both SoS works, and clearly doesn't understand how math works.

What's the difference between Embid's shooting percentage last game (29 percent) and his success rate n picking NBA games?
A. Nothing.

*mic drop*
OUT

While my example isn't truly SoS, it does show how the West is NOT far weaker than the East like he's trying to tell everyone..
I'm out..

[thomorino]

Maybe you can explain to us why the East vs West this year is 176-187(48.4%)..
Seems like the West would be slightly stronger..(3%)
Certainly not far weaker like you said..
Is my math correct?

Because the worst teams in the East are obviously worse than the worst teams in the West. The top 8 teams in the East are far better than the top 8 teams in the West. The East is far stronger.

Memphis is the 2 seed in the West - they wouldn't be lucky to be a 6 seed in the East.

[thomorino]

I'm tired of explaining everything to him,

Exposing the liar for liar like Creighton exposed Providence never gets old.
He doesn't understand how both SoS works, and clearly doesn't understand how math works.

What's the difference between Embid's shooting percentage last game (29 percent) and his success rate n picking NBA games?
A. Nothing.

*mic drop*
OUT

Everything I have said is true. You just said Embiid is playing horribly when he scored 43 points three days ago. Just stop.

[Buckandadime]

Because the worst teams in the East are obviously worse than the worst teams in the West. The top 8 teams in the East are far better than the top 8 teams in the West. The East is far stronger.

Memphis is the 2 seed in the West - they wouldn't be lucky to be a 6 seed in the East.

Your argument makes no sense.. At all..
On top of that, your counterpoint is that the worst teams in the East are worse than the worse teams in the West and that's why the West has a better H2H record..
Have fun Brandon...

[stevenash]

Because the worst teams in the East are obviously worse than the worst teams in the West. The top 8 teams in the East are far better than the top 8 teams in the West. The East is far stronger.

Memphis is the 2 seed in the West - they wouldn't be lucky to be a 6 seed in the East.

This is how Sos works.
Once again I have to school you.

It's not the conference you play in, it's the teams you play against.
That's why Philadelphia SoS is pretty much identical to Denver's schedule.
Denver has played stronger teams in the east, and Philadelphia has played weaker teams in the west.
That's how math works.

This is how math works too.
0.006 is not way harder.
I pretty much identical.

Basic math man

WHY CAN'T YOU COMPRHEND THAT?

You can't admit you're wrong, instead you spin lies.
Lies that are easily detectable.

[thomorino]

Your argument makes no sense.. At all..
On top of that, your counterpoint is that the worst teams in the East are worse than the worse teams in the West and that's why the West has a better H2H record..
Have fun Brandon...

This is how Sos works.
Once again I have to school you.

It's not the conference you play in, it's the teams you play against.
That's why Philadelphia SoS is pretty much identical to Denver's schedule.
Denver has played stronger teams in the east, and Philadelphia has played weaker teams in the west.
That's how math works.

This is how math works too.
0.006 is not way harder.
I pretty much identical.

Basic math man

WHY CAN'T YOU COMPRHEND THAT?

You can't admit you're wrong, instead you spin lies.
Lies that are easily detectable.

The East is far stronger than the West, and its not close. Just look at the top 8 teams and you will see that. The very bottom of the Easts is horrible, worse than the bottom of the West, but the East as a whole is much stronger than the west, and its not close.

Just stop. This isn't even complicated.

[stevenash]

The East is far stronger than the West, and its not close. Just look at the top 8 teams and you will see that. The very bottom of the Easts is horrible, worse than the bottom of the West, but the East as a whole is much stronger than the west, and its not close.

Just stop. This isn't even complicated.

Once again.
PAY ATTENTION

Philadelphia has played weak west teams.
Denver has played tough east teams.

That's why their SoS is just about identical.

Trying to teach basic math to somebody who doesn't know how math works is like pounding a round peg into a square hole.

Continue to spin your lies, see ya.

[thomorino]

Once again.
PAY ATTENTION

Philadelphia has played weak west teams.
Denver has played tough east teams.

That's why their SoS is just about identical.

Trying to teach basic math to somebody who doesn't know how math works is like pounding a round peg into a square hole.

Continue to spin your lies, see ya.

Not true, Philly has played far more good eastern conference teams, Denver has played more bad western conference teams.

[stevenash]

Not true, Philly has played far more good eastern conference teams, Denver has played more bad western conference teams.

Stop lying, look at both teams schedule so far.

The SoS is almost identical, and all the proof is out there.
I can prove my point, you can't prove yours.

The difference between you and me is I expose your lies with facts, you try to tear down my integrity with lies.
Just admit you're wrong like a real man and move on, that's why you're getting DESTROYED in multiple threads.
Look around.

[thomorino]

Stop lying, look at both teams schedule so far.

The SoS is almost identical, and all the proof is out there.
I can prove my point, you can't prove yours.

The difference between you and me is I expose your lies with facts, you try to tear down my integrity with lies.
Just admit you're wrong like a real man and move on, that's why you're getting DESTROYED in multiple threads.
Look around.

Wrong, Philly plays a good eastern confer nice team almost every night. Just stop lying.

[thomorino]

Stop lying, look at both teams schedule so far.

The SoS is almost identical, and all the proof is out there.
I can prove my point, you can't prove yours.

The difference between you and me is I expose your lies with facts, you try to tear down my integrity with lies.
Just admit you're wrong like a real man and move on, that's why you're getting DESTROYED in multiple threads.
Look around.

I'm rolling, you are falling apart. Embiid is the best player in the NBA right now, Jokic isn't top 5. Just stop. Strength schedule and common sense make Embiid the clear MVP - just as the market are pricing it.