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  • thomorino
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    • 06-01-17
    • 45842

    #351
    Teams also get up for Philadelphia and Embiid, especially now that Philly has Harden, everyone knows Denver isn't a contender without Murray so teams are often flat against them.
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    • stevenash
      Moderator
      • 01-17-11
      • 65158

      #352
      Originally posted by thomorino
      I'm rolling, you are falling apart. Embiid is the best player in the NBA right now, Jokic isn't top 5. Just stop. Strength schedule and common sense make Embiid the clear MVP - just as the market are pricing it.
      The argument here is Strength of Schedule, not what conference is better.


      This is the part of the thread where I blow your argument clear out of the water and into oblivion.

      First off have you ever heard of Jeff Sagarin?
      He's the greatest mathematician alive, and he's also in charge of producing these numbers to the NBA and other sources like USA Today who pays him boatloads of money to do so.

      Why don't you read up on how SoS is calculated before you make up your silly lies based on your silly opinions.

      There are reasons the top three teams in the NBA (Phoenix, Utah, GSW) regarding the toughest SoS are all in the west, that being they play tough east teams too.
      I could explain why, but let's see if you can tell me why?

      And before answering remember you're dealing with a highly advanced math mind, that being me who has destroyed many of others' debates much greater than yours.

      Read.




      Stay on topic.
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      • thomorino
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        • 06-01-17
        • 45842

        #353
        Originally posted by stevenash
        The argument here is Strength of Schedule, not what conference is better.


        This is the part of the thread where I blow your argument clear out of the water and into oblivion.

        First off have you ever heard of Jeff Sagarin?
        He's the greatest mathematician alive, and he's also in charge of producing these numbers to the NBA and other sources like USA Today who pays him boatloads of money to do so.

        Why don't you read up on how SoS is calculated before you make up your silly lies based on your silly opinions.

        There are reasons the top three teams in the NBA (Phoenix, Utah, GSW) regarding the toughest SoS are all in the west, that being they play tough east teams too.
        I could explain why, but let's see if you can tell me why?

        And before answering remember you're dealing with a highly advanced math mind, that being me who has destroyed many of others' debates much greater than yours.

        Read.




        Stay on topic.
        Wrong, the problem with your strength of schedule argument is you are just going off the record of teams. The top teams in the East don't have as good of records as teams like Phoenix because they are constantly playing each other. You can't judge how good a team is just by their record, so the way you are calculating strength of schedule makes no sense.

        As usual you are wrong.
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        • stevenash
          Moderator
          • 01-17-11
          • 65158

          #354
          Originally posted by thomorino
          Wrong, the problem with your strength of schedule argument is you are just going off the record of teams. The top teams in the East don't have as good of records as teams like Phoenix because they are constantly playing each other. You can't judge how good a team is just by their record, so the way you are calculating strength of schedule makes no sense.

          As usual you are wrong.
          Today's your lucky day.
          I'm going to tutor you in math.
          You can look this up because I'm licensed, I get 95 dollars an hour to to tutor math, and 125 dollars to tutor computer.

          I'm not going to charge you anything.
          Oh, this is not my way of calculating things, this is the NBA's way of calculating things.
          I'll dumb it down for a simple mind like yourself, as advanced math is clearly not your forte.

          There are 82 regular season games.
          East plays east 50 times.
          East plays west 32 times.

          And vice versa. (that means 'and the other way around'

          50 divided into 82 = 60.9%
          I'll round that number off so your simple base ten mind can follow and call it 60 percent.
          That means 40 percent of the east conference games are played against west teams.

          40 percent is a large percentage.

          And this is how the NBA works the schedule every year.


          • Four games (2 home, 2 away) against each of the other four teams in their division (there are six Divisions of 5 teams each) = 16 games
          • Four games (2 home, 2 away) against six of the other 10 teams in their conference = 24 games
          • Three games against the other four teams in their conference (1 home, 2 away vs 2 teams, 2 home, 1 away against the other two) = 12 games
          • 2 games (1 home, 1 away) against each of the 15 teams in the other conference = 30 games.
          • Total : 82 games


          There is a five year rotation, set by the league, which determines which Out of Division conference teams are played four times and which 3 in any given season, this guarantees that in any given set of 5 years, each team is in the “four game” pool 3 times and the “Three Game” pool twice. Further, of those two years in the “Three game” pool, one season will have 2 home and 1 away and the other the reverse.

          So, given the information I just gave you provided by the NBA, even a simple mind now can tell me why the two teams with the two hardest (toughest) SoS comes from the Pacific Division.

          Would you like me to tell you why?
          Come on, you can figure it out.

          Final point, the SoS is updated on a nightly basis.

          Here's your link again.
          No charge for the math lesson.
          (this time)

          https://sagarin.usatoday.com/2022-2/nba-team-ratings-2021-22/
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          • Gmen30
            SBR MVP
            • 10-13-10
            • 1405

            #355
            Originally posted by thomorino
            Wrong, the problem with your strength of schedule argument is you are just going off the record of teams. The top teams in the East don't have as good of records as teams like Phoenix because they are constantly playing each other. You can't judge how good a team is just by their record, so the way you are calculating strength of schedule makes no sense.

            As usual you are wrong.
            Just when I thought you couldn't be any dumber you once again outshine yourself.
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            • Headsterx
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-03-16
              • 22390

              #356
              Originally posted by stevenash
              You don't have a TV do you?
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              • stevenash
                Moderator
                • 01-17-11
                • 65158

                #357
                Originally posted by Headsterx
                I have a blog and a podcast with my partner.
                (well, he's the boss of the podcast, I'm just the sidekick so to speak)
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                • thomorino
                  Restricted User
                  • 06-01-17
                  • 45842

                  #358
                  Originally posted by stevenash
                  Today's your lucky day.
                  I'm going to tutor you in math.
                  You can look this up because I'm licensed, I get 95 dollars an hour to to tutor math, and 125 dollars to tutor computer.

                  I'm not going to charge you anything.
                  Oh, this is not my way of calculating things, this is the NBA's way of calculating things.
                  I'll dumb it down for a simple mind like yourself, as advanced math is clearly not your forte.

                  There are 82 regular season games.
                  East plays east 50 times.
                  East plays west 32 times.

                  And vice versa. (that means 'and the other way around'

                  50 divided into 82 = 60.9%
                  I'll round that number off so your simple base ten mind can follow and call it 60 percent.
                  That means 40 percent of the east conference games are played against west teams.

                  40 percent is a large percentage.

                  And this is how the NBA works the schedule every year.


                  • Four games (2 home, 2 away) against each of the other four teams in their division (there are six Divisions of 5 teams each) = 16 games
                  • Four games (2 home, 2 away) against six of the other 10 teams in their conference = 24 games
                  • Three games against the other four teams in their conference (1 home, 2 away vs 2 teams, 2 home, 1 away against the other two) = 12 games
                  • 2 games (1 home, 1 away) against each of the 15 teams in the other conference = 30 games.
                  • Total : 82 games


                  There is a five year rotation, set by the league, which determines which Out of Division conference teams are played four times and which 3 in any given season, this guarantees that in any given set of 5 years, each team is in the “four game” pool 3 times and the “Three Game” pool twice. Further, of those two years in the “Three game” pool, one season will have 2 home and 1 away and the other the reverse.

                  So, given the information I just gave you provided by the NBA, even a simple mind now can tell me why the two teams with the two hardest (toughest) SoS comes from the Pacific Division.

                  Would you like me to tell you why?
                  Come on, you can figure it out.

                  Final point, the SoS is updated on a nightly basis.

                  Here's your link again.
                  No charge for the math lesson.
                  (this time)

                  https://sagarin.usatoday.com/2022-2/nba-team-ratings-2021-22/
                  Originally posted by Gmen30
                  Just when I thought you couldn't be any dumber you once again outshine yourself.
                  Originally posted by Headsterx

                  Wrong. Again, this is pretty simple. If a team plays mostly bad teams, they will have a good record, that doesn't make them good. Judging strength of schedule based on just record makes no sense and its why, once again, your simple stats are wrong.
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                  • stevenash
                    Moderator
                    • 01-17-11
                    • 65158

                    #359
                    Originally posted by thomorino
                    Wrong. Again, this is pretty simple. If a team plays mostly bad teams, they will have a good record, that doesn't make them good. Judging strength of schedule based on just record makes no sense and its why, once again, your simple stats are wrong.
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                    • thomorino
                      Restricted User
                      • 06-01-17
                      • 45842

                      #360
                      Jokic held completely scoreless in the 4th quarter against a Toronto team that isn't even good defensively, this after being almost shut out by Kevan Looney in the 4th last game.

                      Anyone can get stats in the first quarter of an NBA game, Jokic is falling apart repeatedly in the 4th quarter.

                      Embiid should able to end the MVP race by the end of next week, Jokic is going to need to be rested, he's falling apart repeatedly late in games.
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                      • stevenash
                        Moderator
                        • 01-17-11
                        • 65158

                        #361
                        You know you're getting hammered in the other threads.
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                        • thomorino
                          Restricted User
                          • 06-01-17
                          • 45842

                          #362
                          Originally posted by stevenash
                          You know you're getting hammered in the other threads.
                          Jokic has scored 2 points in the last two 4 quarters he's played in. The MVP race should be over soon.
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                          • stevenash
                            Moderator
                            • 01-17-11
                            • 65158

                            #363
                            Originally posted by thomorino
                            Jokic has scored 2 points in the last two 4 quarters he's played in. The MVP race should be over soon.
                            STOP YOUR LYING

                            Jokic scored eight points in the fourth quarter in the 117-111 win over Detroit.


                            Looks like I need to take you to math school again.


                            A pathological liar is one who can't help himself.
                            Unless you are making up lies trolling for responses, if that's the case I think you will be banned.
                            I'm pretty sure of it.

                            Let's ask the moderators, OK

                            Oh, STOP LYING
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                            • thomorino
                              Restricted User
                              • 06-01-17
                              • 45842

                              #364
                              Originally posted by stevenash
                              STOP YOUR LYING

                              Jokic scored eight points in the fourth quarter in the 117-111 win over Detroit.


                              Looks like I need to take you to math school again.


                              A pathological liar is one who can't help himself.
                              Unless you are making up lies trolling for responses, if that's the case I think you will be banned.
                              I'm pretty sure of it.

                              Let's ask the moderators, OK

                              Oh, STOP LYING
                              Jokic is getting owned repeatedly. You ve been caught lying.
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                              • Buckandadime
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 04-21-15
                                • 8847

                                #365
                                Originally posted by stevenash
                                STOP YOUR LYING

                                Jokic scored eight points in the fourth quarter in the 117-111 win over Detroit.


                                Looks like I need to take you to math school again.


                                A pathological liar is one who can't help himself.
                                Unless you are making up lies trolling for responses, if that's the case I think you will be banned.
                                I'm pretty sure of it.

                                Let's ask the moderators, OK

                                Oh, STOP LYING
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                                • thomorino
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 06-01-17
                                  • 45842

                                  #366
                                  Embiid with yet another 40 point game, and unlike Jokic he scores in the 4th quarter
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                                  • stevenash
                                    Moderator
                                    • 01-17-11
                                    • 65158

                                    #367
                                    Embid did not score 40 points last night.
                                    And he struggled to maintain 30 percent from the floor.
                                    He misses entirely too many shots, case in point 9 for 28 is a good baseball batting average, but it's an awful shooting percentage.

                                    His shooting percentage is pathetic.
                                    Oh, your pathological lies are ineffective, your trolling for responses isn't working.
                                    Oh, you've been reported.
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                                    • thomorino
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 06-01-17
                                      • 45842

                                      #368
                                      BOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooom

                                      Embiid making JOkic look like a child, just dominating him on every play, defensively, offensively, this is an epic beatdown



                                      The MVP race ends tonight

                                      Embiid is on the second night of a back-to-back also
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                                      • thomorino
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 06-01-17
                                        • 45842

                                        #369
                                        The MVP debate ended tonight.

                                        Philly lost late because they were on the second night of a back to back after an overtime game but here are the numbers.

                                        Embiid 34 points and he shot over 50% from the field

                                        Jokic 22 points

                                        The Best

                                        Denver was -10 with Jokic on the court. Embiid dominated Jokic so badly that Denver's big 4th quarter run was with him off the court when the team went small.

                                        Embiid was +3 and he completely dominated Jokic on both offense and defense all game.

                                        Philly was 13 points better than Denver when both Embiid and Jokic were on the court tonight.

                                        The MVP debate ended tonight. Finished.
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                                        • stevenash
                                          Moderator
                                          • 01-17-11
                                          • 65158

                                          #370
                                          Jokic shit all over Embid.

                                          Stop your lying,
                                          Every night I expose you
                                          *mic drop*

                                          Bye
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                                          • stevenash
                                            Moderator
                                            • 01-17-11
                                            • 65158

                                            #371
                                            Jokic was two assists short of another triple double.
                                            Soft as ice cream couldn't even sniff a double double.

                                            Jokic is the all around better center.

                                            Exposing this guy for the fraud that he is on a nightly basis never gets old.
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                                            • Bcatswin
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 12-21-10
                                              • 13931

                                              #372
                                              Need over pts reb ast tonight!
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                                              • stevenash
                                                Moderator
                                                • 01-17-11
                                                • 65158

                                                #373
                                                Originally posted by Bcatswin
                                                Need over pts reb ast tonight!
                                                For who, Jokic.

                                                He had a monster 22/13/8 against that overrated defensive center.
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                                                • thomorino
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 06-01-17
                                                  • 45842

                                                  #374
                                                  Embiid dominated Jokic in every way - and it wasn't close.

                                                  12 more points

                                                  Embiid was +3 on the court, Jokic was -10

                                                  Minus 10

                                                  Embiid completely dominated Jokic when both were on the court
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                                                  • Buckandadime
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 04-21-15
                                                    • 8847

                                                    #375
                                                    Seems a true MVP would be able to defend home court late in the season versus a "far weaker" Western Conference opponent..
                                                    That's pretty much the definition of MVP..
                                                    No???
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                                                    • stevenash
                                                      Moderator
                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                      • 65158

                                                      #376
                                                      Originally posted by Buckandadime
                                                      Seems a true MVP would be able to defend home court late in the season versus a "far weaker" Western Conference opponent..
                                                      That's pretty much the definition of MVP..
                                                      No???
                                                      Embid is so overrated it's hilarious.
                                                      He should have stayed down after he fell on his fat butt.

                                                      Know what's great about tonight?
                                                      Not only did Jokic crap all over Embid in the fourth, Towns, you remember him, the guy Morino fought about on Twitter, had a bigger night.

                                                      Never gets old Bucky, never gets old.

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                                                      • thomorino
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 06-01-17
                                                        • 45842

                                                        #377
                                                        Originally posted by Buckandadime
                                                        Seems a true MVP would be able to defend home court late in the season versus a "far weaker" Western Conference opponent..
                                                        That's pretty much the definition of MVP..
                                                        No???
                                                        Philly was on the second night of a back to back and Embiid dominates Jokic, just stop
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                                                        • thomorino
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 06-01-17
                                                          • 45842

                                                          #378
                                                          Originally posted by stevenash
                                                          Embid is so overrated it's hilarious.
                                                          He should have stayed down after he fell on his fat butt.

                                                          Know what's great about tonight?
                                                          Not only did Jokic crap all over Embid in the fourth, Towns, you remember him, the guy Morino fought about on Twitter, had a bigger night.

                                                          Never gets old Bucky, never gets old.

                                                          Jokic did nothing most of the game, including in the 4th, boney Hyland had to bail him out, he was so bad
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                                                          • stevenash
                                                            Moderator
                                                            • 01-17-11
                                                            • 65158

                                                            #379
                                                            Originally posted by thomorino
                                                            Jokic did nothing most of the game, including in the 4th, boney Hyland had to bail him out, he was so bad
                                                            You want me to buy you a TV?
                                                            You clearly don't own one.

                                                            Jokic made Embid his personal meat puppet.
                                                            Stop embarrassing yourself, I expose you on a daily basis.
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                                                            • Buckandadime
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 04-21-15
                                                              • 8847

                                                              #380
                                                              Originally posted by stevenash
                                                              Embid is so overrated it's hilarious.
                                                              He should have stayed down after he fell on his fat butt.

                                                              Know what's great about tonight?
                                                              Not only did Jokic crap all over Embid in the fourth, Towns, you remember him, the guy Morino fought about on Twitter, had a bigger night.

                                                              Never gets old Bucky, never gets old.

                                                              Never...
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                                                              • stevenash
                                                                Moderator
                                                                • 01-17-11
                                                                • 65158

                                                                #381
                                                                Originally posted by Buckandadime
                                                                Never...
                                                                He believes his own lies, that's scary.

                                                                Oh well, my work here is done.
                                                                I'm out.

                                                                You're in charge now,
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                                                                • juicername
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 10-14-15
                                                                  • 6906

                                                                  #382
                                                                  Originally posted by thomorino
                                                                  Embiid dominated Jokic in every way - and it wasn't close.

                                                                  12 more points

                                                                  Embiid was +3 on the court, Jokic was -10

                                                                  Minus 10

                                                                  Embiid completely dominated Jokic when both were on the court
                                                                  Yet another lie. Jokic was not -10.
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                                                                  • Buckandadime
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 04-21-15
                                                                    • 8847

                                                                    #383
                                                                    Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                    He believes his own lies, that's scary.

                                                                    Oh well, my work here is done.
                                                                    I'm out.

                                                                    You're in charge now,
                                                                    Not me...
                                                                    He's SBR's director of misinformation..
                                                                    Its their job..
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                                                                    • stevenash
                                                                      Moderator
                                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                                      • 65158

                                                                      #384
                                                                      Originally posted by juicername
                                                                      Yet another lie. Jokic was not -10.
                                                                      Tell me about it, I expose at least ten lies from him a week.
                                                                      Minimum.
                                                                      He's unbelievable, literally
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                                                                      • Buckandadime
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 04-21-15
                                                                        • 8847

                                                                        #385
                                                                        Insult to injury, Embiid wasn't +3 either..
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