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DeMar DeRozan
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#37And the Bulls get Zach back next week, Vucevic is a top five center, he's having another monster season averaging a double/double a game...
That Bulls team's going to be trouble for Milwaukee and the rest come east conference playoff time.
They have three bona fide studs.
Gotta get Caruso back healthy. He changes the defense entirely. People forget that while he was playing the Bulls defense was top quarter. Ball also for his perimeter defense.Comment -
#38Thompson ok
Has played in big momentsComment -
#39Patrick Williams should be back next month. Eastern Conference finals is realisticComment -
#40You can't compare stats across eras an DeRozan has always been good in the regular season. He gets exposed in the playoffs every year because he's a ball dominant player who isn't a play maker. He barely shoots 40% from the field in the playoffs, and doesn't even shoot 3's.Comment -
#41You can't compare stats across eras an DeRozan has always been good in the regular season. He gets exposed in the playoffs every year because he's a ball dominant player who isn't a play maker. He barely shoots 40% from the field in the playoffs, and doesn't even shoot 3's.
DeMar has always been good, but never anywhere close to this good. Off the charts. Wonder what you'll say if he doesn't get "exposed" in the playoffs this year. His last playoff appearance in 18-19 he shot almost 50%. He's a much better overall player now than he was when he was younger. Not a playmaker lolComment -
#42Can you compare the fact that nobody has ever done what he's done in any era including this one and any other one? Actually it only makes it more impressive. Wilt was a giant among midgets who dunked at will. The fact that DeMar passed him in the scoring/efficiency stretch is insane. Granted, it's 7 games and only 7 games.
DeMar has always been good, but never anywhere close to this good. Off the charts. Wonder what you'll say if he doesn't get "exposed" in the playoffs this year. His last playoff appearance in 18-19 he shot almost 50%. He's a much better overall player now than he was when he was younger. Not a playmaker lol
He gets exposed in the playoff every year, and he will be exposed this year too.
I will make a loser leave the forum forever bet with you that his field goal percentage will go down in the playoffs. He's not a playmaker either, which is why when he faces better defenders in the playoffs he gets exposed.Comment -
#43He's not a much better player, he's always been a good mid-range shooter, and the league has gotten softer.
He gets exposed in the playoff every year, and he will be exposed this year too.
I will make a loser leave the forum forever bet with you that his field goal percentage will go down in the playoffs. He's not a playmaker either, which is why when he faces better defenders in the playoffs he gets exposed.Last edited by d2bets; 02-17-22, 11:25 AM.Comment -
#44
Derozean's field goal percentage is artificially higher since he rarely shoots 3's.
It's obviously better to shoot 46% from the field and 40% from 3 than to shoot 52% from the field and be unable to shoot 3's at all.
Every top level player see their numbers go up not down in the playoffs - Derozean's numbers go down ,and down significantly, in the playoffs, every year.Comment -
#45If most of the top player in the league only shot 2 pointers they would be well over 52% from the field, the best 3 point shooters in the league are barely 40% from the 3 point line, and the best shooters obviously take a good number of 3's.Comment -
#46
The top wings are still all better than Derozean, and its not close.Comment -
#47Morino knows the gameComment -
#48The NBA updates what they call an MVP tracker on a daily basis.
I don't have time to break down how the NBA calculates these numbers, it's elaborate, I have no disposable time right now for a math class.
As of right now.
Jokic has a little better than a one in three chance.
Giannis, about a one one in four chance.
Embid, one in ten chance.
4-10 dark horses.
For now.
Rk Player Team FG% 3P% FT% TRB AST STL BLK PTS Prob% 1 Nikola Jokić DEN 0.57 0.372 0.808 13.8 7.9 1.3 0.8 26 37.00% 2 Giannis Antetokounmpo MIL 0.547 0.304 0.72 11.3 6 0.9 1.4 29.4 26.40% 3 Joel Embiid PHI 0.491 0.36 0.813 11.1 4.5 1 1.5 29.3 10.20% 4 Chris Paul PHO 0.487 0.33 0.843 4.5 10.7 1.9 0.3 14.9 9.60% 5 Rudy Gobert UTA 0.711 0 0.689 14.8 1.2 0.8 2.3 15.7 3.40% 6 Stephen Curry GSW 0.427 0.379 0.919 5.3 6.3 1.4 0.4 25.8 3.40% 7 Ja Morant MEM 0.495 0.33 0.755 5.8 6.9 1.2 0.4 26.8 2.90% 8 Luka Doncic DAL 0.448 0.329 0.734 9 9 1.2 0.5 27 2.60% 9 DeMar DeRozan CHI 0.517 0.343 0.866 5.2 5.1 0.9 0.3 28.1 2.40% 10 Devin Booker PHO 0.446 0.369 0.863 5.2 4.5 1 0.4 25.5 2.00% Comment -
#49The NBA updates what they call an MVP tracker on a daily basis.
I don't have time to break down how the NBA calculates these numbers, it's elaborate, I have no disposable time right now for a math class.
As of right now.
Jokic has a little better than a one in three chance.
Giannis, about a one one in four chance.
Embid, one in ten chance.
4-10 dark horses.
For now.
Rk Player Team FG% 3P% FT% TRB AST STL BLK PTS Prob% 1 Nikola Jokić DEN 0.57 0.372 0.808 13.8 7.9 1.3 0.8 26 37.00% 2 Giannis Antetokounmpo MIL 0.547 0.304 0.72 11.3 6 0.9 1.4 29.4 26.40% 3 Joel Embiid PHI 0.491 0.36 0.813 11.1 4.5 1 1.5 29.3 10.20% 4 Chris Paul PHO 0.487 0.33 0.843 4.5 10.7 1.9 0.3 14.9 9.60% 5 Rudy Gobert UTA 0.711 0 0.689 14.8 1.2 0.8 2.3 15.7 3.40% 6 Stephen Curry GSW 0.427 0.379 0.919 5.3 6.3 1.4 0.4 25.8 3.40% 7 Ja Morant MEM 0.495 0.33 0.755 5.8 6.9 1.2 0.4 26.8 2.90% 8 Luka Doncic DAL 0.448 0.329 0.734 9 9 1.2 0.5 27 2.60% 9 DeMar DeRozan CHI 0.517 0.343 0.866 5.2 5.1 0.9 0.3 28.1 2.40% 10 Devin Booker PHO 0.446 0.369 0.863 5.2 4.5 1 0.4 25.5 2.00% Comment -
#50
This is the NBA data, I'm just reporting it.
You're welcome to your opinions.Comment -
#51Embiid is favored to win the MVP in every betting market. Again, your charts you rely on are trash. Half those players haven't even played enough games to be in consideration for the MVP.Comment -
#52
Giannis has started more games than Embid this season, and they average EXACTLY the same amount of minutes played.
Once again you just post anything you want off the top of your head, try to pass it off as fact, and once again you get proved wrong.
I won't and can't debate something with you or somebody like that.Comment -
#53Oh, by the way.
Giannis has started more games than Embid this season, and they average EXACTLY the same amount of minutes played.
Once again you just post anything you want off the top of your head, try to pass it off as fact, and once again you get proved wrong.
I won't and can't debate something with you or somebody like that.Comment -
#54Oh, by the way.
Giannis has started more games than Embid this season, and they average EXACTLY the same amount of minutes played.
Once again you just post anything you want off the top of your head, try to pass it off as fact, and once again you get proved wrong.
I won't and can't debate something with you or somebody like that.
Just stop.Comment -
#55
Giannis
Embiid2021-22 MIL Reg 48 1564:37 483 883 54.7 56 184 30.4 389 540 72.0 90 450 540 287 159 45 67 1,411 2021-22 PHI Reg 45 1477:45 425 866 49.1 59 164 36.0 410 504 81.3 89 411 500 202 131 46 66 1,319 Comment -
#56
You lied, and I'm not going to let you deflect off of this page so you can cover up your fraudulent statement.
Get your facts straight before you open your mouth. Until then, you're not going to get a debate out of me.
Why? Because you make shit up.
I don't like you, and I don't respect you is another reason.Comment -
#57Oh, by the way.
Giannis has started more games than Embid this season, and they average EXACTLY the same amount of minutes played.
Once again you just post anything you want off the top of your head, try to pass it off as fact, and once again you get proved wrong.
I won't and can't debate something with you or somebody like that.Comment -
#58Stop deflecting, you said Giannis hasn't played enough games to be even considered.
You lied, and I'm not going to let you deflect off of this page so you can cover up your fraudulent statement.
Get your facts straight before you open your mouth. Until then, you're not going to get a debate out of me.
Why? Because you make shit up.
I don't like you, and I don't respect you is another reason.
Again, make the bet with me about who will win the MVP - you won't, because you are a coward.Comment -
#59Now you change it to average, which is virtually the same anyway. To say that Giannis hasn't played enough to be considered but Embiid has is thomoronic.Comment -
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#6232.8 MPG average Embid
32.6 MPG average Giannis
In the math circles that is a statistical dead heat.
I have one question, answer it please.
You stated Giannis doesn't even have enough games or minutes to even be considered.
Why did you say that?
Seriously, what is wrong with you buddy.
I post a MVP tracker chart provided by the NBA, you don't like what you see and you go off like an eight year old on a temper tantrum because he didn't get a donut with his milk.
Why did you say Giannis doesn't have enough time when they both play the same amount per game.Comment -
#6332.8 MPG average Embid
32.6 MPG average Giannis
In the math circles that is a statistical dead heat.
I have one question, answer it please.
You stated Giannis doesn't even have enough games or minutes to even be considered.
Why did you say that?
Seriously, what is wrong with you buddy.
I post a MVP tracker chart provided by the NBA, you don't like what you see and you go off like an eight year old on a temper tantrum because he didn't get a donut with his milk.
Why did you say Giannis doesn't have enough time when they both play the same amount per game.
Again, Embiid has played more minutes per game than Giannis.Comment -
#64
You made a fraudulent statement, you said Giannis doesn't deserve to be in the MVP consideration because he hasn't played in enough games and doesn't have enough minutes.
I posted a fact sheet provided by the NBA, which is relevant to this topic, you didn't like what you saw, so (in my opinion) you decided to make up a fraudulent stat, thinking, this is my opinion, that nobody will catch you in your fraudulent lie.
You did the same thing when you said Teddy Bridgewater won ten consecutive games.
I proved that wrong too.
Stop talking, in order to be a know it all, you have to know something first.
Tell me why you said Giannis doesn't have enough games played, and not enough minutes.
You can't.
Because you'll never admit you're wrong.Comment -
#65Not triggered at all.
You made a fraudulent statement, you said Giannis doesn't deserve to be in the MVP consideration because he hasn't played in enough games and doesn't have enough minutes.
I posted a fact sheet provided by the NBA, which is relevant to this topic, you didn't like what you saw, so (in my opinion) you decided to make up a fraudulent stat, thinking, this is my opinion, that nobody will catch you in your fraudulent lie.
You did the same thing when you said Teddy Bridgewater won ten consecutive games.
I proved that wrong too.
Stop talking, in order to be a know it all, you have to know something first.
Tell me why you said Giannis doesn't have enough games played, and not enough minutes.
You can't.
Because you'll never admit you're wrong.
Just stop.Comment -
#66I'm done for now.
a) because you're arguing with lies, not facts.
b) you refuse to answer my question which is "why did you say Giannis doesn't have enough games played"
c) I don't like you or respect you
Get help.
See ya around.
Not for nothing 1564:37 > 1477:45
That's how math works.
When it's all said and done and there's nothing left to say or do, then it's time to say good night pal.
My work here is done.
Go ahead, insult my wife again, say whatever you have to say, doesn't matter.
Later
2021-22 MIL Reg 48 1564:37 483 883 54.7 56 184 30.4 389 540 72.0 90 450 540 287 159 45 67 1,411
Embiid2021-22 PHI Reg 45 1477:45 425 866 49.1 59 164 36.0 410 504 81.3 89 411 500 202 131 46 66 1,319 Comment -
#67I'm done for now.
a) because you're arguing with lies, not facts.
b) you refuse to answer my question which is "why did you say Giannis doesn't have enough games played"
c) I don't like you or respect you
Get help.
See ya around.
Not for nothing 1564:37 > 1477:45
That's how math works.
When it's all said and done and there's nothing left to say or do, then it's time to say good night pal.
My work here is done.
Go ahead, insult my wife again, say whatever you have to say, doesn't matter.
Later
2021-22 MIL Reg 48 1564:37 483 883 54.7 56 184 30.4 389 540 72.0 90 450 540 287 159 45 67 1,411
Embiid2021-22 PHI Reg 45 1477:45 425 866 49.1 59 164 36.0 410 504 81.3 89 411 500 202 131 46 66 1,319 Comment -
#68Embiid do inated and outplays Giannis in everyway tonightComment -
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#70Embiid completely dominates Giannis. Again, Giannis isn't in the MVP conversation.Comment
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