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  • DJK
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    • 01-17-11
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    #71
    Originally posted by Mike Huntertz
    If you want to get lucky......this is where you want it!
    Something is not right with that picture if she is the only one playing at the table.

    I suppose the person who took the picture was playing the first seat; otherwise, why would the dealer draw a card when the sole player at the table already has a blackjack?
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    • DJK
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      #72
      I was just at Borgata in Atlantic City, NJ, to print my match play coupons and I stopped by at a regular Pai Gow Poker game and MGM could not have it rigged any worse.

      A player in the first seat banked for $500. He got 3 Queens plus Ace 9 which would have been the dealer's hand if he didn't bank. All players at the table played for even money to play for the bonus and they all lost which then he refunded their money. None of them got the bonus except for the guy who banked and he was paid $120 for the $40 bonus bet for the trip Queens.

      The next round, the same guy who just banked bet 2 hands of $500 each and the guy seated at the end bet $200 and everyone else bet $40 as the table minimum was $40 which is rather ridiculous on a weekday and the casino was practically dead with pretty much all tables closed except for a handful.

      The dealer got A 2 3 4 5 (2nd highest straight) with 9 8 on top. One of the hands for the first guy betting $500 was 9 10 J Q K straight with 5 6 on top, so he lost $500. The last guy who bet $200 had almost the same hand with 9 10 J Q K straight with 7 5 on top. How crazy is that those two straight to K lost to the dealer and they were the two biggest bets on the table.

      The third round, the first guy had KK with AQ on top on one hand and QQ 99 with AJ on the other hand which he split the pairs. The last guy had JJ with K 10 on top.

      The dealer had AA 55, so he took everyone's money except for the hand that had pairs of QQ and 99.

      That's three in a row that NO ONE won and just about everyone lost each round.

      How screwed up is that shit? It boils my blood when I see things like that.

      Why isn't the automatic position selecting number banned in the casinos? That position selection number thing is either built into or wired directly into the shuffling machine which knows what everyone's hand is, so it can be absolutely programmed to screw the players and let the casinos win the most. If anyone ever played that game at Caesars Atlantic City, it's even worse there. The Revel takes the cake when they were open; full house for the dealer every other hand so basically take everyone's money every other round. Might as well just hand over the money and don't even bother playing.

      Every casino should be using the dice to decide who gets the first hand, which then the casinos cannot rig the machine to cheat the players.

      That's the biggest reason why I ended up learning the Pai Gow Tiles game where casinos absolutely positively cannot cheat. It's pure luck.


      Having said that, baccarat is the only game where you control your own luck.
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      • DJK
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        • 01-17-11
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        #73
        Originally posted by stevenash
        BJ pays 3:2
        You pay 50 for a BJ though
        Unless a casino let's you bet pennies, there is no bet amount rounded off in dollars that will pay $50 for a blackjack.

        ??? x 3 / 2 = $50 and that ??? is $33.33.

        That picture's resolution is not sharp enough to make out the chip denominations and I cannot tell what the original bet amount is, but the small stack of chips to the right of the girl are purple and most if not all casinos' purple chips are $500 each in Atlantic City or even in PA.
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        • stevenash
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          • 01-17-11
          • 65147

          #74
          Originally posted by DJK
          Unless a casino let's you bet pennies, there is no bet amount rounded off in dollars that will pay $50 for a blackjack.

          ??? x 3 / 2 = $50 and that ??? is $33.33.

          That picture's resolution is not sharp enough to make out the chip denominations and I cannot tell what the original bet amount is, but the small stack of chips to the right of the girl are purple and most if not all casinos' purple chips are $500 each in Atlantic City or even in PA.
          I think you may have missed my little joke there.
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          • DJK
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            #75
            Originally posted by stevenash
            I think you may have missed my little joke there.
            Ha ha


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            • Mike Huntertz
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              • 08-19-09
              • 11203

              #76
              Originally posted by DJK
              Something is not right with that picture if she is the only one playing at the table.

              I suppose the person who took the picture was playing the first seat; otherwise, why would the dealer draw a card when the sole player at the table already has a blackjack?
              I just noticed now that she is playing cards......
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              • DJK
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                • 01-17-11
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                #77
                While I was at the MGM Nation Harbor casino this past weekend, I had an opportunity to make a boat load of money but didn't because I was a big chicken. It's so sad since I could have easily made tens thousands.

                After we came back from visits to museums and memorials in Washington D.C. all day, I dropped the kids and wife at the main entrance to the hotel rooms and I parked which is completely on the opposite end of the hotel rooms. I have to go through the casino to get to the hotel rooms, so I was just walking through it and I just happened to stop at a first baccarat table I ran into out of probably 20 or so of them and that table was on a MAJOR TWO CHOP run.

                It was at a Player Win on the 7th column when I got to the table. I hesitated because the table minimum was $300 and that was a BIG mistake as the two chop run continued for 14 more in a row and the table got filled very quickly when it was only two women playing on the table when I got there.

                One woman was up over $20,000 before she lost $7,500 ($5,000 and $2,500 losses) on the last two hands after the last Banker win on the picture below as the TWO CHOP became ONE CHOP.

                Over all, it was a 23 TWO CHOP run which is just incredible.

                Even if I flat bet at the $300 minimum, I would have won $3,900 minus 5% commissions for the banker bets after the last hand loss, but I would have definitely pressed (50%+) at some point; most likely after the 4th wins. I would have lost a big bet on the 15th hand, but I would have won so much by then that I probably walked away with 10K+ easily. But nothing. It's so sad and I don't know how I could get over this mistake of not taking the chance. It's not like I didn't have the bankroll to sit and start betting $300. I had 20K+ in my pocket.

                Once again I didn't listen to my head and hesitated and lost out winning BIG. When will I ever learn to listen to my head...


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                • MinnesotaFats
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                  • 12-18-10
                  • 14758

                  #78
                  Learn to set the dice pre toss

                  Can't lose

                  Profit every roll
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                  • DJK
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                    • 01-17-11
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                    Learn to set the dice pre toss

                    Can't lose

                    Profit every roll
                    I tried that setting 3's face up making a V and didn't work. It's all luck for the craps in my opinion.

                    At least in baccarat, when you get a run you shove it until it's over.

                    Imagine if I let $300 ride until it loses as the table minimum was $300.

                    I would have hit the table max of $20,000 at the 7th hand which means I'm up almost $40,000. Then, I would have won $20,000 x 7 for another $140,000 in the next 7 hands as the run was 14 from the point I got to the table. Even if I lost the 15th hand, I would still have won $160,000 in a short 30 minutes. Where can you win that kind of money in casinos?

                    If I lose before I get to the table max, I only lose $300.

                    Isn't losing only $300 worth the shot of winning $160,000?

                    007 movies and baccarat
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                    • sweethook
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                      • 11-21-07
                      • 12667

                      #80
                      baccarat - 100%
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                      • DJK
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                        • 01-17-11
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                        #81
                        Below is a post from a baccarat player in Australia in a gambling forum.

                        He cleared almost $700,000 in profit in less than 7 months flat betting baccarat but increasing the unit size from $100 to $500. I have more than 10 times his initial bank roll in cash and even though this guy never stated what his bet selection is, I get the feeling that it's similar to mine. He said his most preferred bet selection is the chop and who doesn't like that unless you are a total anti-trend bettor. I know a baccarat dealer from Borgata who is like that who lost over $10,000 on a 24 chop run where everyone at the table made thousands if not tens thousands when he lost all his money.

                        Screw the sports betting. I'm going to do what this guy did and see what happens. It looks like there is only one guy who is attempting what this guy is doing and although he hasn't achieved the same winning results, he is getting there and it's most likely because of the difference in bet selection.


                        Here is the 6 month totals plus August totals

                        The 7 month totals are

                        A=Total days played=114+21=135 days
                        B=Total time played=149.1+21=170 hours
                        C=Total games played=448+98=546 games
                        D=Total hands played=13464 + 1515 =14979 hands
                        E=Total hands WON= 7650 + 815 = 8465 won hands
                        F=Total hands LOST= 5762 +659 = 6421 lost hands
                        H=Total unit profit= 1778 + 148= 1926 units profit

                        The 7 month averages are as follows

                        Days played =135 days
                        Average days played per month=135/7= 19.2 days per month
                        Average time played per day = 170/135=1.26 hours p/d
                        Average games p/day = 546/135= 4.04 games
                        Average hands p/day =14979/135=110.9 hands
                        Average WON hands p/day = 8465/135=62.7 won
                        Average Lost hands p/day = 6421/135=47.5 lost
                        Average units profit p/day = 1926/135= 14.26 units

                        Average WIN % per month = 56.51%

                        The 6 month holding profit was $606 600.00
                        August profit =$74 000.00
                        7 Month nett profit = $606 600.00+$74 000.00=$680 600.00

                        Note we started with a $5000 start up bank that has been fully refunded to our personal account

                        This is starting at a $100 unit in February ( For the sake of this thread ) increasing each month by $100 to max Flat Bet of $500
                        If you started at $10 flat bet ( $500 start up bank ) and increased at $10 per month to a max flat bet of $50 your nett profit =$60 606. 00c for 170 hours work.
                        For the month of August flat betting $50 per hand your profit =$7 400.00c, in this country skippyvillage thats a lot more than the average monthly wage, IM sure in trumptown, johnsanvillage,kimtown , putindashavilagle or merkelvillage its a dito.

                        I assume we are all well aware that flat betting is not profitable.

                        I only flat bet 1 unit
                        I only play RGN stadium 20 second baccarat
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                        • JIBBBY
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                          • 12-10-09
                          • 83691

                          #82
                          The ATM machine game...
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                          • DJK
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                            #83
                            Originally posted by JIBBBY
                            The ATM machine game...
                            What does that mean?
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                            • JIBBBY
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 12-10-09
                              • 83691

                              #84
                              Originally posted by DJK
                              What does that mean?
                              Losers live at the ATM machines to keep withdrawing money at casino's. It's their favorite game to play..

                              That's all.
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                              • DJK
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                                • 01-17-11
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                                #85
                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                Losers live at the ATM machines to keep withdrawing money at casino's. It's their favorite game to play..

                                That's all.
                                Yes, you are right about that. I also see a lot of people taking out cash advances at the cages when I go to cash my chips.

                                I don't remember the last time I went to an ATM machine to withdraw cash while in casinos (it must have been at least 12 years ago if not longer), so I must be a winner then.

                                I practically stayed in the casino hotels for the past 2 years (ever since my kids went to on-line classes), and I have never had to go to an ATM machine.

                                I'm home at the moment after 2 years in AC and Las Vegas and it's because of my kids' PSSA tests which was over last Friday, and I wanted to head back to AC last Friday but decided to stay home for another week to take care of things around the house (need a new lawn mower so my wife can cut the grass) and my car (oil change, brake change, rotate tires, etc).

                                So, I'm heading back to AC this Friday and probably stay there until I have something else to deal with at home that my wife can't take care of.

                                This time in AC, I'm going to do what that guy did with baccarat and see how I fare.
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                                • DJK
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                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                  Losers live at the ATM machines to keep withdrawing money at casino's. It's their favorite game to play..

                                  That's all.
                                  You have casinos near you in LA, so do you go to any of them to play? So, do you stick with sports betting only?
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                                  • JIBBBY
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                                    • 12-10-09
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                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by DJK
                                    You have casinos near you in LA, so do you go to any of them to play? So, do you stick with sports betting only?
                                    Sports betting only for this guy. Hard to beat the slot machines and table games in Casino's.
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                                    • guitarjosh
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                                      • 12-25-07
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                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                      Sports betting only for this guy. Hard to beat the slot machines and table games in Casino's.
                                      Slots are the easiest if you're disciplined and pick your spots.
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                                      • DJK
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                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                        Slots are the easiest if you're disciplined and pick your spots.
                                        Are you saying you are winning playing slots?

                                        To me, they are the worst game to play in casinos. Might as well just hand over the money to casinos if you are playing slots.

                                        If you are one of those rare people who actually manages to win consistently in slots, I would to like hear your formula so I can tell my mom about it. I get my parents a room in AC casinos for 2 to 3 weeks a month and she plays slots and baccarat and all of her losses are in slots.
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                                        • Fishhead
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                                          • 08-11-05
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                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                          Hard to beat the slot machines and table games in Casino's.
                                          Not really
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                                          • Fishhead
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                                            • 08-11-05
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                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by DJK
                                            Are you saying you are winning playing slots?
                                            Anyone with a clue could be up thousands at slots.......up, as most know here, up hundreds of thousands via slot playing lifetime.
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                                            • DJK
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                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                              Sports betting only for this guy. Hard to beat the slot machines and table games in Casino's.
                                              Yes, the slot machines cannot be beat, but for the table games baccarat can be beat if you are disciplined and have a great bet selection.

                                              My younger brother who lives in Buena Park uses a baccarat system of his own and it can either make you a lot of money or get you crushed in a very short time but it's the latter that happens more often.

                                              He came to visit me last December, so I got him a room at Hard Rock for a few days. It took him only about 15 minutes to lose 5K that he brought with him, so he was walking towards a ATM machine. I gave him 3K to take another shot and I walked away to look at the blackjack tables to play.

                                              When I didn't see anyone winning in blackjack, I went back to the baccarat table after about 30 minutes and he was gone. The first thought that came to my head was that he lost another 3K leaving him with 8K loss in less than an hour. But when I went to his room, he was eating a Whitehouse hoagie that I got him earlier in the day and had a grin on his face.

                                              He said he got his 5K loss back plus another 5K for a total of 10K in about 1/2 hour and he gave me 3 1K chips. He said his wife told him to come back home now, but he didn't and he gave back about 3K of his winnings before he went back home.
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                                              • DJK
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                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                Anyone with a clue could be up thousands at slots.......up, as most know here, up hundreds of thousands via slot playing lifetime.
                                                I would like to know your secret, so I can tell my mom about it. It's the Mother's day today after all. Thanks in advance.
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                                                • jjgold
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                                                  • 07-20-05
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                                                  #94
                                                  Fishhead Basically watches machines when people put a lot of money in them and they don’t hit and they leave then he goes on to one
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                                                  • manny24
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                                                    • 10-22-07
                                                    • 20046

                                                    #95
                                                    Fishhead tell us how you camp out and hawk a machine for hours/ days

                                                    just waiting for the old lady to get up so you can steal her jackpot
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                                                    • jjgold
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                                                      • 07-20-05
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                                                      #96
                                                      The best strategy is never going into one
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                                                      • DJK
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                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                                        The best strategy is never going into one
                                                        That may be true to a certain extent.

                                                        I have at least 15 months in casinos to figure out if what that Australian baccarat player did will work for me or not. Hopefully, my bet selection isn't too far off from his in order for me to produce a similar result.
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                                                        • DJK
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                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by manny24
                                                          Fishhead tell us how you camp out and hawk a machine for hours/ days

                                                          just waiting for the old lady to get up so you can steal her jackpot
                                                          LOL

                                                          I used to think the same thing that if you watch for and play the machines where someone puts in a lot of money, got nothing in return, and leaves that you will eventually hit something.

                                                          That's a total myth based on the 2 videos below and I would lean to believe them more than what Fishhead said; especially Michael Shackleford.



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                                                          • guitarjosh
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                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by DJK
                                                            Are you saying you are winning playing slots?

                                                            To me, they are the worst game to play in casinos. Might as well just hand over the money to casinos if you are playing slots.

                                                            If you are one of those rare people who actually manages to win consistently in slots, I would to like hear your formula so I can tell my mom about it. I get my parents a room in AC casinos for 2 to 3 weeks a month and she plays slots and baccarat and all of her losses are in slots.
                                                            Yes, but only certain games, and only when I have the previous player leaves an advantage on the machine.
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                                                            • DJK
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                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                                              Yes, but only certain games, and only when I have the previous player leaves an advantage on the machine.
                                                              Well, so you think the same as Fishhead and it's basically contradicted by the YouTube videos I posted above that it won't be the case.

                                                              In other words, it's all random and that someone having put in a lot of money with no wins makes no difference on the machine whether it will payout shortly or not.

                                                              The best policy is to never touch the slot machines. Period.
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                                                              • guitarjosh
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                                                                • 12-25-07
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                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by DJK
                                                                Well, so you think the same as Fishhead and it's basically contradicted by the YouTube videos I posted above that it won't be the case.

                                                                In other words, it's all random and that someone having put in a lot of money with no wins makes no difference on the machine whether it will payout shortly or not.

                                                                The best policy is to never touch the slot machines. Period.
                                                                There are games that you can advantage play. Watch this one to give you an idea:

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                                                                • DJK
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                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                                                  There are games that you can advantage play. Watch this one to give you an idea:
                                                                  That was a horrible video to watch; just like what the commenters have said. That would explain the very low number of subscribers he has.

                                                                  My 11 year old daughter has more subscribers.

                                                                  He doesn't even explain what he is looking for before picking the games to play.
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                                                                  • guitarjosh
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                                                                    • 12-25-07
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                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by DJK
                                                                    That was a horrible video to watch; just like what the commenters have said. That would explain the very low number of subscribers he has.

                                                                    My 11 year old daughter has more subscribers.

                                                                    He doesn't even explain what he is looking for before picking the games to play.
                                                                    What he's looking for is a number to the right of "next hand". He's only playing those.

                                                                    Let me spell it out for you: He's looking through those machines for multipliers. When he finds one on the next hand, he plays it.

                                                                    Now let me make it even easier for you. Let's say he finds on one of the $1 bet 10 hand games that every hand will have a 7x multiplier on the next hand. He bets $5 per hand x 10 hands for a $50 total bet. He is dealt a pair of Jacks, which he will hold to win $5 per hand x7 x 10. Assuming he doesn't get any more Jacks or pairs dealt, he wins $350. If he gets a few Jacks thrown in, maybe 2 Jacks on one hand, maybe one hand gets 3 Aces plus the 2 Jacks, that's all multiplied x 7.

                                                                    He would have won $300, then he walks away or looks for more multipliers.
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                                                                    • guitarjosh
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                                                                      • 12-25-07
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                                                                      #104
                                                                      This might make more sense if you watch the first minute or 2:

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                                                                      • guitarjosh
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                                                                        • 12-25-07
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                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                                                        This might make more sense if you watch the first minute or 2:

                                                                        Watch with about 32:30 left. If you were searching through a machine and someone left 4x multipliers on every hand, you can see what could happen
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