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  • mcaulay777
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    • 09-13-10
    • 1765

    #281
    Wow this Pittsburg Team is bad im way off on this one.Im out of this game,Its is a very tuff watch!
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    • KVB
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 05-29-14
      • 74817

      #282
      Originally posted by mcaulay777
      Wow this Pittsburg Team is bad im way off on this one.Im out of this game,Its is a very tuff watch!
      Yeah, I think it is going to be ugly for Pitt backers.

      I'm seeing them here on 3rd and 27 and they resort to a draw.

      Just tough all day for them. That's the feel I get.
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      • KVB
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        • 05-29-14
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        #283
        Oh shit, Pitt bringing in a 2018 NFL 4th rounder.

        A ringer? Can he turn the culture of Pitt around? Can he get pizza for everybody?

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        • KVB
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 05-29-14
          • 74817

          #284
          I mentioned that more and more bettors, different types of bettors, will enter the market as the season progresses. I mention that in the market video.

          We are getting more trades and more volume but, as I've often said, it takes 4 weeks of action to really get going. That's really a reference to modelling, but it can apply outside of that for sure.

          At week 5, the sharps, as it stands in this market, will enter.

          But we are seeing volume and trades, in line with some of the market schemes, as we move forward.

          The two games on Sat and two games on Sunday are a big payoff. Having one Firday and one Sunday not so much.
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          • KVB
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 05-29-14
            • 74817

            #285
            Originally posted by KVB
            ...Paper Two pick, prior to any information on Saturday...

            Michigan -3.5

            Philly -2.5 (or even -1.5, which is out there)

            But let's make it even more definitive, because of the line movement we've seen let's make it a ml parlay...

            Mich ml
            Philly ml...
            Originally posted by KVB
            ...Paper Bet:

            3 pick parlay...

            Birm +6
            Mich -3.5
            Phi-2

            Let's follow the money...
            Didn't even think to post about the ml 3 pick parlay, it can be too much to get into for the thread but had a nice start with Birm.

            Market just hanging that NJ +2.5 out there, just like last week. That's tough to Fade at this point. There are increasing reasons to by NJ.

            The pressure of one favorite and one dog, in the pair of today's games, is still in the market. Reading my analysis yesterday, you can see NJ is under pressure.

            There is pressure on Philly too, and could be more public than the market is letting on.

            But it's a big game for NJ, can they withstand the pressure?

            I'm thinking no, and the Philly has the shot here.

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            • KVB
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 05-29-14
              • 74817

              #286
              Before the first game started, BM moved the line to Philly -3 but they had to keep the dog side priced.

              It was, at one point, Philly -3 (+106)/J +3 (-127).

              But that was before game time, they were trying to generate some action on what, for them, is looking to be a fairly tight line of 2.5/3
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              • Headsterx
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 12-03-16
                • 22382

                #287
                Originally posted by KVB
                Oh shit, Pitt bringing in a 2018 NFL 4th rounder.

                A ringer? Can he turn the culture of Pitt around? Can he get pizza for everybody?

                😂😂😂

                I can’t believe I thought they had improved. The worst coach in football.
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                • KVB
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                  • 05-29-14
                  • 74817

                  #288
                  Moneyflow parlays looking strong.

                  How many times have you guys had a 3, 4 or more parlay lose on the last play?

                  We have time to ponder this game.

                  Strongly leaning Philly here, but going against some of the fundamentals that make up the NJ play are difficult.
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                  • KVB
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 05-29-14
                    • 74817

                    #289
                    Going ahead, in the interest of the thread, and taking another risky market shot with...

                    1-May PHI -2.5 (-105)
                    Another market shot here. I think the patience here was waiting to let Pit to fail, even though we already had our win this week.

                    I hope I don't regret "fading" a strong NJ situation, but with its success last week and in the interest of give and take I think this play belongs here and in this thread.

                    My gameplan remains the same, from before the first game this week started. Should NJ take an early lead, I will strongly consider the Philadelphia comeback. If Philly takes the early lead, I will not be thinking the same.

                    Good Luck

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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388189

                      #290
                      Good luck
                      Pass
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                      • KVB
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 05-29-14
                        • 74817

                        #291
                        I have no opinion on the Total, it's just not there.
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                        • KVB
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 05-29-14
                          • 74817

                          #292
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          Good luck
                          Pass
                          Yes, this really could be considered a NJ or pass situation. A case could be made in my office.

                          But the edge is so close, the borderline is right there.

                          I've taken the side of it being "not NJ" tonight, if we were fruther along in the season, it would be a pass. But since it's not NJ, it must be Philly.

                          Refer to the paper bet parlays to see what I did there.

                          Enjoy your Sunday evening, Gold.

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                          • KVB
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 05-29-14
                            • 74817

                            #293
                            Pinny was showing -2.5 (+103)/+2.5 (-120) before taking the -2.5 back to even money (-117/+100)

                            Yeah, we've seen that before, even BOL putting the nickel on the dog at -115.

                            I'm not getting fooled and this in fact serves to make my case stronger, given last week.

                            If we can get some underdog moneyline pressure to manifest, I could be looking at a Philly ml bet. The situation, again given last week's "jackpot" lends to some sort of settling of the settlement. The would mean a Philly 1 or 2 point win.

                            The "greed of the favorite spread bettor" could cost us.

                            As of now, I like my position and feel we have a grasp on what's being brought, even if we are standing in the middle of a minefield (and here I am talking about adding a moneyline bet, lol) Now we'll just have to see it gets brought.

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                            • KVB
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 05-29-14
                              • 74817

                              #294
                              Originally posted by KVB
                              ...If we can get some underdog moneyline pressure to manifest, I could be looking at a Philly ml bet...
                              We've seen BM drop to 2 and I believe this is a "fake" shift in that they will try to exploit their customers into a steam type move.

                              I will counter the move and pick up...

                              1-May PHI -133

                              Again I will look to pick up one more bet on Philly, LIVE when, not if, but when NJ takes the lead early.

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                              • KVB
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 05-29-14
                                • 74817

                                #295
                                If the line were bigger, and there were more room to work with, and we could develop a forecast with EV, this represents a situation where, market wise, one could buy the NJ ml, and hope to sell back for profit.

                                The only issue is the the larger the cushion you get, the more your team has to score early, or you have to be patient and wait.

                                But history shows that's really not an issue. Size of line and need to score more early are simply not correlated with a lack of that scoring or getting to the sell back point.

                                IF it's a game wher 3 scores are needed, then they will come as often as the 1 score needed situation. This is a little "Foster" like and not really about this thread.
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                                • KVB
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 05-29-14
                                  • 74817

                                  #296
                                  Well, Philly scored first that is acutally not good for the cause.

                                  Hopefully the statement is for those on the dog to not try to disrespect the system as I outlined in the first posts before gtames started this week.

                                  If that's the statment and story, so be it, it will be a Philly blowout.



                                  But I'm a little bothered NJ didn't score first. I suppose the TB comeback, even if just to spash the moneyline served that purpose this week.
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                                  • KVB
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 05-29-14
                                    • 74817

                                    #297
                                    Originally posted by KVB
                                    Well, Philly scored first that is acutally not good for the cause...

                                    ...But I'm a little bothered NJ didn't score first...
                                    I will say this, paying more than -300 LIVE right now is not a smart market play, win or lose.

                                    NJ came to play. They are getting yards and doing a better job at it than Philly, but Philly leads 7-0.
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                                    • KVB
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 05-29-14
                                      • 74817

                                      #298
                                      If we were working with Forecasts and gauges, a NJ lead could trigger a Philly LIVE buy still, even if Philly scored first, but it's rare.

                                      I can't assess value in the LIVE markets either and they aren't as liquid as we'd like to see.

                                      Philly "on sale" for -260.

                                      Could it be that the comeback is NJ's? I have indications of a higher probability of a comeback, even with the little info we have. This make me nervous given how consistent NJ really has been.
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                                      • KVB
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 05-29-14
                                        • 74817

                                        #299
                                        The more I review the more I see that TB comeback as this week's rebound, or "bounce" from last Sunday.

                                        The chances of NJ comeback lessense with that assumption, but I think Philly has a QB injury.

                                        New Jersey, around 4-1 odds, has potential here, but with the FG it will be gone.

                                        I'm holding, I'd like to see some of the settlement games add up without a great LIVE market, then we can catch them when it's time. had NJ scored first, I would have struck.
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                                        • KVB
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 05-29-14
                                          • 74817

                                          #300
                                          NJ made the move.

                                          Top QB in the league is injured for Philly.




                                          A lot of room for a lot of points second half.

                                          Could get interesting.

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                                          • KVB
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 05-29-14
                                            • 74817

                                            #301
                                            Such a high probability of a comeback this game, I do hope patience holds true and that the NJ comeback here, even if they get a lead, is fughazi.

                                            Could Philly be a fughazi favorite?

                                            We continue to root for Philly, but wish we had NJ at around +400 LIVE...lol.
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                                            • KVB
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 05-29-14
                                              • 74817

                                              #302
                                              Kicking has bween turrible.

                                              Missed XP could set up for a Philly 2 point win situation down the stretch.

                                              Those fuks.

                                              You know why the kicking is so bad? You know why?

                                              Because...

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                                              • KVB
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 05-29-14
                                                • 74817

                                                #303
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                                                • d2bets
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                  • 39990

                                                  #304
                                                  I found this thread...
                                                  Which caused me to look at live lines...
                                                  Which caused me to bet -2.5-130 and +5.5+115.
                                                  Wait, I know nothing of USFL...does this have any chance at all or did I get key numbered out?
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                                                  • KVB
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 05-29-14
                                                    • 74817

                                                    #305
                                                    Originally posted by KVB
                                                    Such a high probability of a comeback this game, I do hope patience holds true and that the NJ comeback here, even if they get a lead, is fughazi.

                                                    Could Philly be a fughazi favorite?..

                                                    NJ +3.5 is about -135, -137, etc.

                                                    The public doesn't care what they let's hope they're getting sucked in as well. But they just might be getting shorted on the winner.

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                                                    • Headsterx
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 12-03-16
                                                      • 22382

                                                      #306
                                                      Generals QB is running!
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                                                      • d2bets
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 08-10-05
                                                        • 39990

                                                        #307
                                                        Interesting Fanduel has ML -115 and -1.5-115. I guess 1 margin is impossible. Or they're just stupid?
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                                                        • d2bets
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 08-10-05
                                                          • 39990

                                                          #308
                                                          Is USFL anything like NFL? They kick field goals or what? LOL
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                                                          • Headsterx
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 12-03-16
                                                            • 22382

                                                            #309
                                                            That RB just manhandled Stars defense for TD.
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                                                            • Headsterx
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 12-03-16
                                                              • 22382

                                                              #310
                                                              Originally posted by Headsterx
                                                              That RB just manhandled Stars defense for TD.
                                                              Ops, correction: 1st and goal but scores anyway for TD.
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                                                              • Headsterx
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 12-03-16
                                                                • 22382

                                                                #311
                                                                Originally posted by d2bets
                                                                Is USFL anything like NFL? They kick field goals or what? LOL
                                                                See post #16 for different in rules.

                                                                Check KVB earlier posts for very informative stuff on betting the league.
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                                                                • d2bets
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                                  • 39990

                                                                  #312
                                                                  Hard to get down and low limits, but seeing some huge differences live lines.
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                                                                  • KVB
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                                                                    • 05-29-14
                                                                    • 74817

                                                                    #313
                                                                    The lead has changed.

                                                                    But there is a lot of time left.

                                                                    Despite seeing NJ dominate on the field, I almost hit Philly at +160, but couldn't get down.
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                                                                    • KVB
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                                      • 74817

                                                                      #314
                                                                      Originally posted by d2bets
                                                                      Hard to get down and low limits, but seeing some huge differences live lines.
                                                                      Nah, not really trying to exploit line differences like that in this thread. That was for another thread with that level trading.
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                                                                      • d2bets
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                                                                        • 08-10-05
                                                                        • 39990

                                                                        #315
                                                                        Are there different key number spreads than in the NFL? Or is it kind of similar?

                                                                        Tell me to stfu if I'm asking stupid questions.
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