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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388189

    #1
    Are Florida Panthers a percentage play tonight
    Or is this team just overrated

    I got people on the ground in Florida but they are not telling me much
  • Brock Landers
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 06-30-08
    • 45360

    #2
    Home teams that lose game 1 are extremely motivated to win game 2 at home
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388189

      #3
      Landers you know every angle
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      • Brock Landers
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 06-30-08
        • 45360

        #4
        Originally posted by jjgold
        Landers you know every angle
        you must be a fuckin novice still, only been betting on sports for 30 years
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        • DrunkHorseplayer
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 05-15-10
          • 7719

          #5
          Originally posted by Brock Landers
          Home teams that lose game 1 are extremely motivated to win game 2 at home
          Any historical data on this?
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          • jose21_us
            SBR MVP
            • 05-24-10
            • 3844

            #6
            I’ll be at the game tonight. Pound em!
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            • svsooner
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 09-19-14
              • 707

              #7
              overrated IMO. Scored a lot in the regular season, but being slowed down in the playoffs.
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              • Darkside Magick
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 05-28-10
                • 12638

                #8
                Florida Panthers -2.5 +292 vs Tampa Bay Lightning
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                • KVB
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 05-29-14
                  • 74817

                  #9
                  I like the UNDER 6.5 and think it's a good buy here.

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                  • KVB
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 05-29-14
                    • 74817

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
                    Any historical data on this?
                    Yes.

                    I went back 75 plays, or the closest season...

                    You're looking at 55.4% over more than 15 years with with a 41-33 record for the home team but it yields about -5 units of profit, betting the same unit each game, depending on your line.

                    All but two of those games had the home team favored and the average line of those favorites was -160. In the other three games the home teams were pickem (win), +110 (Loss), and +255 (win).

                    On May 4th this year three of the four game two's had the home team coming off a loss.

                    The home team won all three of those games.

                    Here's what it looks if you bet the home team here over the last 74 plays...

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                    • KVB
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 05-29-14
                      • 74817

                      #11
                      If we flip that though, you find profit on the away team.

                      The record is 33-41, 44.6%, But a bettor betting that same unit on the Visiting team in game two after the home team lost game 1 would be up about +5 units.

                      The bettor only needed to win a little over 40% of those games for profit.

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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388189

                        #12
                        KVB has data on everything
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                        • KVB
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 05-29-14
                          • 74817

                          #13
                          Funny thing is that the average price on all the dogs during that 74 game study is about +147.

                          That's what Circa is dealing now and the market is right there, around +150.

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                          • goduke
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 02-17-10
                            • 11580

                            #14
                            im on tampa. florida isnt at their level
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                            • lakerboy
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 04-02-09
                              • 94363

                              #15
                              I can't trust them.
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                              • KVB
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 05-29-14
                                • 74817

                                #16
                                There's a correction to that data above.

                                I did not account for games in the first playoff series where the home team may have lost before that, at the end of the regular season.

                                In that case, the record for the Home team is 52-41, 55.9% and a loss of more the -6 units.

                                Betting on the road team in this case yielded a profit of more than +7 units.

                                So counting all those first series games as well it only got worse for the home team, and better for the road bettors.

                                Average lines aren't much different.
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                                • pavyracer
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 04-12-07
                                  • 82478

                                  #17
                                  Every game is unique if you know anything about probabilities.

                                  Just because team A beat team B and team C beat team D on the second game of a playoff away it does not mean that team A will beat team C in the second away game of the next series.
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                                  • JayLA
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-11-12
                                    • 7806

                                    #18
                                    why cant panthers play like they did in the reg season
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                                    • goduke
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 02-17-10
                                      • 11580

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by JayLA
                                      why cant panthers play like they did in the reg season
                                      Because teams play better defense and care more in the playoffs. Florida like to capitalize on laziness during the regular season and didn’t work as hard like this in the regular season
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                                      • Darkside Magick
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 05-28-10
                                        • 12638

                                        #20
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                                        • JayLA
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-11-12
                                          • 7806

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by goduke
                                          Because teams play better defense and care more in the playoffs. Florida like to capitalize on laziness during the regular season and didn’t work as hard like this in the regular season
                                          I know shit all about hockey (and sports for that matter) so thanks! I figured it was something like that
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                                          • KVB
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 05-29-14
                                            • 74817

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by JayLA
                                            why cant panthers play like they did in the reg season
                                            Originally posted by goduke

                                            Because teams play better defense and care more in the playoffs. Florida like to capitalize on laziness during the regular season and didn’t work as hard like this in the regular season
                                            Yeah

                                            Playoffs can be a different animal. No matter the sport.

                                            It's often related to defense. Even when the playoffs started this year with that flurry of Overs, it doesn't mean we didn't still see a playoff defense. Overs were profitable at a crazy rate year to date in the NHL.

                                            But playoffs still brought changes.
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                                            • jjgold
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388189

                                              #23
                                              They are terrible
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                                              • BeatTheJerk
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 08-19-07
                                                • 31794

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by KVB
                                                Yeah

                                                Playoffs can be a different animal. No matter the sport.

                                                It's often related to defense. Even when the playoffs started this year with that flurry of Overs, it doesn't mean we didn't still see a playoff defense. Overs were profitable at a crazy rate year to date in the NHL.

                                                But playoffs still brought changes.
                                                They are like O & 30 on their playoff power plays lol yeah so that doesn’t help at all.
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                                                • BeatTheJerk
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 08-19-07
                                                  • 31794

                                                  #25
                                                  Unreal JJ Gold curse strikes again
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                                                  • KVB
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 05-29-14
                                                    • 74817

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by KVB
                                                    I like the UNDER 6.5 and think it's a good buy here.

                                                    Bang!!!

                                                    Not one to bump winners, but that was nice UNDER there.



                                                    Home teams might be motivated after losing game 1 at home, but it hasn't been translating to a good bet.
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                                                    • goduke
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 02-17-10
                                                      • 11580

                                                      #27
                                                      Haha Florida at their best. Powerplay with 3 minutes to go and they produce nothing and then give up the game winning goal with 3 seconds left because the defenseman thought he needed to double team Kucherov behind the net. Good thing i learned my lesson from game 1
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                                                      • jjgold
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388189

                                                        #28
                                                        Series could
                                                        Be over
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                                                        • risKingDigits
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 12-22-21
                                                          • 467

                                                          #29
                                                          0-26 on power plays, Lighting is thinking about pulling their goalie to make it an even 5 on 5 from now on.
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                                                          • pavyracer
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 04-12-07
                                                            • 82478

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                                            Unreal JJ Gold curse strikes again
                                                            I always fade the coach. He is right on the money.


                                                            Ticket#:4945790
                                                            May 19 07:00 PM
                                                            May 19 06:59 PM NHL STRAIGHT BET
                                                            [33] TAMPA BAY +152
                                                            348.81 / 530.19
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                                                            • BeatTheJerk
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 08-19-07
                                                              • 31794

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                              I always fade the coach. He is right on the money.


                                                              Ticket#:4945790
                                                              May 19 07:00 PM
                                                              May 19 06:59 PM NHL STRAIGHT BET
                                                              [33] TAMPA BAY +152
                                                              348.81 / 530.19
                                                              Well done by you.
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                                                              • jjgold
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 07-20-05
                                                                • 388189

                                                                #32
                                                                Excellent paver
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                                                                • ChuckyTheGoat
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 04-04-11
                                                                  • 36676

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                  Excellent paver
                                                                  Who u like for FRI, goldy?
                                                                  Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                                  • swordsandtequila
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 02-23-12
                                                                    • 9756

                                                                    #34




                                                                    Been there, done that…
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                                                                    • RM Logic
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 12-09-13
                                                                      • 847

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Tampa Bay sells out in the playoffs. Guys put their bodies out there to stop shots. I think Stamkos had like 4 blocks in the 3rd period.
                                                                      They up their defensive play to win Stanley Cups.
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