MGM Not a bad USA book

**CanuckG** · 06-10-22, 12:45 AM

Originally posted by Fishhead

CIRCA better than all of them ........in three states now, soon to be four.

Only thing circa lacks are markets. Pinny and bookmaker has way more to offer.

**Fishhead** · 06-10-22, 10:39 AM

MGM goes to 25 cent baseball lines at -145..........JOKE

**jjgold** · 06-10-22, 11:29 AM

Wow

Euro management destroying usa books

**KVB** · 06-10-22, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by Fishhead

MGM goes to 25 cent baseball lines at -145..........JOKE

There are so many bettors that don't even consider price.

And there some houses that simply don't want the rest of us as customers.

**Fishhead** · 06-10-22, 12:41 PM

Mgm
Phils -145
Dbacks +120

Betonline

Phils -137
Dbacks +127

**jjgold** · 06-10-22, 01:02 PM

Fisher
Do you know how many suckers are betting bad lines they have no understanding of math

You cannot bet $.20 lines or more baseball you’re just burning money

**loser711** · 06-11-22, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

It is hilarious. Eventually there will be nobody left betting much and their volume will dry up. If you're a book, then book. MGM is afraid of it's own shadow. I guess you remain King by keeping the riff raff away?

Wrong, the way it's always been. Much preferred is Square action. Only way this will stop is with legislation. But the legislators are most likely greased, so don't hold your breath!

**budwiser** · 06-11-22, 01:45 PM

It's the CEOs.

The issue is if the manager takes a $500k bet and wins, who cares. If the bet loses, he has to explain it to the idiot up the chain (how could you do such a thing).

That's the way it is not only at books, but in life. Politicians don't know what they're doing either-suddenly lawyers become experts in science and foreign policy.

**jjgold** · 06-11-22, 03:33 PM

The Euro model is really hurting USA books image

Negativity really spreading

**budwiser** · 06-11-22, 11:35 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

The Euro model is really hurting USA books image
Negativity really spreading

Yeah once you get a reputation, good or bad, it's real hard to shake that. Which is good if you have a good reputation, bad if you don't.

The books with poor CEOs will be out of business soon. DraftKings will be sold to someone else, because the CEO is determined to spend a billion on marketing in 2021 but take as little action as possible, using FanDoo as the model (Robins is a fool). Caesars will be around, MGM will be around, because people can trust those books. No funny business. If Circa is trusted, they'll stick around.

Books fail over and over again that try not to payout, and try to get only squares to bet. SBR has ratings on these books. SBR has online books in the hundreds on avoid or blacklist.

**budwiser** · 06-11-22, 11:38 PM

Originally posted by loser711

Wrong, the way it's always been. Much preferred is Square action. Only way this will stop is with legislation. But the legislators are most likely greased, so don't hold your breath!

The way it has always been for successful books is they use both sharps and squares, so they know what they are doing. If your business model is to take square money only, you p ing into the wind/you have no idea where you are headed.

But, why should i give any of these CEOs advice. They obviously know what they are doing, or they wouldn't be running their book. Credit to them.

**jjgold** · 06-12-22, 04:44 AM

THe majority of these usa books just started copying each other high juice and super quick to limit regardless of type of player it must be profitable or at least now way they lose

**budwiser** · 06-12-22, 08:51 AM

Let's see who's around in a few years. DraftKings who started out with marketing $1 billion and focuses on having margins as good as FanDuel, or Circa who started out small.

The customer is always right. The customer pays for the service. If the customer thinks the service is shady, word gets around, and you're out of business. Happens all the time.

**jjgold** · 06-12-22, 09:38 AM

Originally posted by budwiser

Let's see who's around in a few years. DraftKings who started out with marketing $1 billion and focuses on having margins as good as FanDuel, or Circa who started out small.

The customer is always right. The customer pays for the service. If the customer thinks the service is shady, word gets around, and you're out of business. Happens all the time.

it will be interesting

**d2bets** · 06-12-22, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Fisher
Do you know how many suckers are betting bad lines they have no understanding of math

You cannot bet $.20 lines or more baseball you’re just burning money

That's not how most suckers are burning money. They're betting terrible parlays lines, that's how. The hold rate tells the story. Doesn't mean it's impossible to build a good parlay, but almost nobody knows how or cares to know.

**Fishhead** · 06-12-22, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

it will be interesting

Crypto and futures taking a BEATING right now

wowowowowowowowowoowowowow

LET'S GO BRANDON!!!

**budwiser** · 06-12-22, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

Crypto and futures taking a BEATING right now

wowowowowowowowowoowowowow

LET'S GO BRANDON!!!

lot of republicans were disappointed in Biden winning. I said this could be the greatest thing to ever happen to Republicans, an 8-year Trump term beginning in 2024 and control of Congress. You could see this coming. The guy can barely get through a teleprompter and the Vice Prez is not going to take over. Dems really set themselves up in an awful way, without realizing it-just to get Trump out of office. Would have been better for them if Trump won, took the blame. this is already ugly, going to get worse

how about el salvador, the president got 83% of the vote, bet on bitcoin, made it legal tender there, now el salvador may default on their debt.

you can't make this s up

**budwiser** · 06-12-22, 10:40 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

That's not how most suckers are burning money. They're betting terrible parlays lines, that's how. The hold rate tells the story. Doesn't mean it's impossible to build a good parlay, but almost nobody knows how or cares to know.

there's only so much $ you can get out of a "squares only" book

**creed** · 06-12-22, 11:14 PM

This is a whole different party.Companies like draftkings want the $1 $2 parlay player figures instead playing the lottery play a parlay. BOOKMAKING whats that ? They have no clue

**Fishhead** · 06-13-22, 08:42 AM

Originally posted by budwiser

lot of republicans were disappointed in Biden winning. I said this could be the greatest thing to ever happen to Republicans, an 8-year Trump term beginning in 2024 and control of Congress. You could see this coming. The guy can barely get through a teleprompter and the Vice Prez is not going to take over. Dems really set themselves up in an awful way, without realizing it-just to get Trump out of office. Would have been better for them if Trump won, took the blame. this is already ugly, going to get worse

how about el salvador, the president got 83% of the vote, bet on bitcoin, made it legal tender there, now el salvador may default on their debt.

you can't make this s up

**jjgold** · 06-13-22, 08:51 AM

Trump 2024

MGM Vegas never blinked 10k baseball bets ML when I was there 2015

Dead book now $100
Max

**dynamite140** · 07-01-22, 08:27 PM

MGM is using the same/exact odds as their non US sites such as party and bwin?

**jjgold** · 07-02-22, 05:14 AM

Originally posted by dynamite140

MGM is using the same/exact odds as their non US sites such as party and bwin?

close

**pologq** · 07-02-22, 05:20 AM

the mgm site is the one that is affiliated with borgata right?

**jjgold** · 07-02-22, 07:13 AM

I think so

**stevex** · 07-02-22, 07:24 AM

Originally posted by pologq

the mgm site is the one that is affiliated with borgata right?

Correct.

**pologq** · 07-02-22, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by stevex

Correct.

do people earn good rewards on there? i like the borgata so maybe it pays to play there.

**Waterstpub87** · 07-02-22, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by pologq

do people earn good rewards on there? i like the borgata so maybe it pays to play there.

It's ok. I find Caesars to be a little bit better. The free bet rewards are similar. Betmgm rewards was comping mid week rooms. Caesars gives you a free room in AC for every 5,000 points plus promo rates at down times.

I'm limited to $20 on everything on Betmgm at this point. Frustrating, but I wouldn't want me as a customer either. No limits on Caesars as of yet.

**d2bets** · 07-02-22, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Trump 2024

MGM Vegas never blinked 10k baseball bets ML when I was there 2015

Dead book now $100
Max

So it's Biden's fault that MGM are pussies?

I've heard it all now.

**jjgold** · 07-03-22, 05:13 AM

Perks wise them and DK are close

**pologq** · 07-03-22, 05:39 AM

Originally posted by Waterstpub87

It's ok. I find Caesars to be a little bit better. The free bet rewards are similar. Betmgm rewards was comping mid week rooms. Caesars gives you a free room in AC for every 5,000 points plus promo rates at down times.

I'm limited to $20 on everything on Betmgm at this point. Frustrating, but I wouldn't want me as a customer either. No limits on Caesars as of yet.

thanks for the info on both