I think we're gonna start seeing new "totes" appearing on the scene, as competition drives down the cost.
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388189
#179
Rosocoe yes
We should be in a good position down the road I give Spanky credit for doing this donรขโฌโขt get me wrong
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Optional
Administrator
06-10-10
60690
#180
Originally posted by SlickFazzer
sbr should launch a premium product.
Discussions are still in progress about how to make SBR Odds the best service available.
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388189
#181
Like spanky said last night on podcast Twitter
A line service is useless without usa and offshore and payperhead books
The latter two where all the sharp money is bet
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#182
Just because a pro says you need real time odds to operate doesn't mean getting something real time turns you into a pro.
After several pages have gone by, I default to my initial posts in this thread.
Originally posted by KVB
The more widely it's used the easier it will be to manipulate the market and the bettors...this is good for some of us, but bad for nearly all the rest of you.
I doubt anyone in this thread will see it coming...lol.
Remember, it's not the info, it's how you use it.
So many in a hurry to pay for something that, if not used correctly, will cost a lot more than the subscription they paid.
Originally posted by KVB
I'm just saying that if you don't already know what to do with information like this then getting and having this information is not going to help you.
In fact, we will burn you for the ignorance. You will be even easier to manipulate with this info than you were without, and that was already easy.
Everyone always looking for a shortcut to creating some kind of handicapping or ratings, whether it's for a game or sport, or even just handicapping the market. It's true even for those trying to let the market do the capping for them.
These market participants usually get burned, they turn subjective and can't control their emotions.
It becomes the case where bettors get just enough knowledge to get into trouble, but won't take the extra step to long term winning...
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#183
Originally posted by texhooper
KVB taking a condescending turn. We are all beneath him and will be manipulated by him. This is his villain origin story
Originally posted by texhooper
Yep. He wants this to be a status thing. Everyone drooling, you can start nose breathing now
Don't mistake tools for those who know how to use them, and can make it worth their cost, for some kind of status thing.
Be more realistic, and less condescending.
Or maybe try not to hate the player, just go ahead and hate the game.
I appreciate you Tex, and I'm not trying to call you out or be negative, but you appear to be on an edge of a "complex" with those posts I quoted.
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388189
#184
He will hold back info 15 seconds for his bettors
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Roscoe_Word
SBR MVP
02-28-12
3999
#185
Think this will be a helpful tool for the average joe.
Coupled with (the real) KVB's excellent sports bettin vids, and I think it might add 1-2% to our yearly ROI.
"In fact WE will burn YOU for your ignorance."
JJ, please check this guys post.
This is not KVB.
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RonPaul2008
SBR Hall of Famer
06-08-07
6741
#186
Originally posted by jjgold
He will hold back info 15 seconds for his bettors
I'd use DonBest over that even if that was free. That time difference is everything.
Learn about OddsJam memberships, including our Gold & Platinum packages. Get valuable bets, live odds, push notifications & more.
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Judge Crater
SBR MVP
10-05-20
2024
#188
The higher the price, the more talented the average subscriber.
The more talented the average subscriber the less the sportsbooks will either send info or send up to date info,
for example Bovada has right now Lynx +1 on Don Best, they certainly do not have that pointspread on their website.
Someone come up free or close to it, every sportsbook will be on it.
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Microphone
SBR MVP
01-08-08
2950
#189
Originally posted by jjgold
Like spanky said last night on podcast Twitter
A line service is useless without usa and offshore and payperhead books
The latter two where all the sharp money is bet
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TheMoneyShot
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
02-14-07
28672
#190
Originally posted by Optional
Discussions are still in progress about how to make SBR Odds the best service available.
That would be great... but even the older version which most thought was decent... the money flow on what people were taking... very inaccurate. Wasn't even close to other sources out there. Better off throwing a dart at a USA map... and pick your team.
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biggie12
SBR Posting Legend
12-30-05
13781
#191
Originally posted by jjgold
Like spanky said last night on podcast Twitter
A line service is useless without usa and offshore and payperhead books
The latter two where all the sharp money is bet
your out of your god damn mind
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texhooper
SBR Posting Legend
01-05-09
10001
#192
Originally posted by KVB
Don't mistake tools for those who know how to use them, and can make it worth their cost, for some kind of status thing.
Be more realistic, and less condescending.
Or maybe try not to hate the player, just go ahead and hate the game.
I appreciate you Tex, and I'm not trying to call you out or be negative, but you appear to be on an edge of a "complex" with those posts I quoted.
He pretty much said in so many words on his twitter space (where jj got his info from as well) that he wanted it to be a status thing. The two posts you quoted of mine have nothing to do with one another
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388189
#193
Only computer compatible also
Home use only
1000% for big betting pros and beard operations
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#194
Originally posted by texhooper
...The two posts you quoted of mine have nothing to do with one another
I never said the posts were related.
That's the point. Two unrelated posts pointing to the same thing, a potential "complex". The only relation is the same poster.
Not a big deal here Tex, just an observation.
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#195
For the record, I do not plan on even looking into this product, I believe I have access to everything I need. From what is described in this thread, I already have real time down to seconds and have created my own alerts...something I've talked about in the past.
Make no mistake, I do pay for what I have, a price that has gone up since onshore legalization and since Pinny changed their API business and Pinnysolutions.
For live trading Deck Prism is the way to go.
I do not who "spanky" is and doubt he can provide anything I don't already get, through relationships with books.
That doesn't take away from the value of his project, it's just not a new thing.
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Optional
Administrator
06-10-10
60690
#196
Originally posted by jjgold
Like spanky said last night on podcast Twitter
A line service is useless without usa and offshore and payperhead books
The latter two where all the sharp money is bet
Of course he says that.
Same as some people here insist a line service with any delay is "useless".
Some people cannot perceive things from anything but their own viewpoint. Tech nerds are very often terrible at empathic thinking.
If you are not trying to beat books using a technical exploit like chasing steam, real time is not important to you.
If you are living in a legal state and are not so desperate for a way to earn income you want to turn the fun of gambling into a job, then a line comparison service without offshore is also not "useless".
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#197
Originally posted by Optional
Of course he says that.
Same as some people here insist a line service with any delay is "useless".
Some people cannot perceive things from anything but their own viewpoint. Tech nerds are very often terrible at empathic thinking....
Give the vast majority "real time" over delay and they will have no idea what to do with it.
This is why information packaged like this can become widespread, it doesn't really reduce an edge it can create for knowledgeable users. Although, once the US market is saturated, this could change...a concept I'm still sort of working out in my head.
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388189
#198
Delay is ok if you out hustle other guys has to be less than 2 minutes though
Sharp money is all offshore now usa except maybe Circa , a little fandual and William Hill Vegas
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SlickFazzer
SBR Posting Legend
05-22-08
20209
#199
Has Spanky announced an official RELEASE date?
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Fishhead
SBR Aristocracy
08-11-05
40179
#200
Originally posted by jjgold
Delay is ok if you out hustle other guys has to be less than 2 minutes though
Sharp money is all offshore now usa except maybe Circa , a little fandual and William Hill Vegas
It's a great time to be alive!!
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388189
#201
Fisher yes only if your sharp
If you drink 4-11 beers per day like me and bald a loser
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SlickFazzer
SBR Posting Legend
05-22-08
20209
#202
You back on the bud lights JJ?
Originally posted by jjgold
Fisher yes only if your sharp
If you drink 4-11 beers per day like me and bald a loser
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Fishhead
SBR Aristocracy
08-11-05
40179
#203
Originally posted by jjgold
Fisher yes only if your sharp
If you drink 4-11 beers per day like me and bald a loser
Drink tea
Ive tried to eat blueberries and oatmeal daily and have tea and garlic daily also all my adult life..............sockeye salmon twice a week also.
Had a steak last evening at ROADHOUSE with a salad and 3 ICED TEAS
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SlickFazzer
SBR Posting Legend
05-22-08
20209
#204
Sounds like a great cleansing program FH.
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Fishhead
SBR Aristocracy
08-11-05
40179
#205
Originally posted by SlickFazzer
Sounds like a great cleansing program FH.
Its a lifetime commitment Slick
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388189
#206
Fisher You would not recognize me because of the beer, right now Iรขโฌโขm about 268 pounds and in Vegas I was 180
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SlickFazzer
SBR Posting Legend
05-22-08
20209
#207
oh wow, so this is the reason for no videos anymore.
JJ has ballooned up.
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TheMoneyShot
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
02-14-07
28672
#208
When is the release date party?
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SlickFazzer
SBR Posting Legend
05-22-08
20209
#209
It heard it was around the 20th. Not sure is there will be a party or just an announcement on the RELEASE.
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texhooper
SBR Posting Legend
01-05-09
10001
#210
Originally posted by KVB
I never said the posts were related.
That's the point. Two unrelated posts pointing to the same thing, a potential "complex". The only relation is the same poster.
Not a big deal here Tex, just an observation.
Yeah and I told you why you were wrong. You can be wrong, KVB