Irving Suspended And Might be released

[budwiser]

Yeah Griffin had one year left, that was his year. I know you're not a big Griffin fan, but when you're in the desert even a drop of water makes a difference. They had nothing at the power forward slot. You have to have beef.

This is the final year for Durant and Irving as title contenders, I'd agree with that. As for the Western Conference, I said Eastern Conference and title. So if the Nets get the East, I get +600, and what do I lose, not much. Low risk high reward. I do think they have a title shot this year, there is not a defender in the league who can't prevent Kevin Durant at 6'10" from getting off shots, and Kyrie Irving is a nightmare to defend.

I had the whole process mapped out:
1. They fire Steve Nash, get the tix Eastern Conf and title
2. New coach comes in, wants to put his imprint on the team
3. Changes to the team to reflect the coach
4. The team starts to gel

We're in 3. If we get to 4 I'm good, if not I'm toast. Worth a shot only live once lol

[budwiser]

The problem with the Nuggets was the Joker was almost the entire team. Murray a great player sure, got his ACL injury.

You need balance to win a title. That's why the Nets won't win without beef in the middle. One superstar is not enough. As strong as the Joker is, he can't be distributing and scoring and getting rebounds for 7 game series, game after game after game. He wears out. Sure they got Porter, but going up against Anthony Davis how is that going to work out. How are they going to guard 3's when Golden State is pumping up 3's-Jokic is not going to be defending the 3 consistently banytime soon.

But with Irving Durant Simmons Watanabe and a big, that's the best lineup in the league. Or close to it. Because nobody is running away with the title this year-it's not like years past where you knew the Lakers and Magic were going to meet Bird no matter what. Or the East back when LeBron was in his prime. You can't tell me Tatum is going to dominate the East.

[IBetYou]

The Nuggets have some good pieces. Hyland is a good 1on1 scorer off the bench. If they can deal Porter and/ or Gordon for one good forward look out!

[budwiser]

Nuggets remind me of Stockton and Malone. One of the greatest tandems of all time. But never won a title. Close.

Jordan managed to do it without a true center. 3-headed monster. That's because he was Michael Jordan, the greatest of all time. As everyone knows.

[budwiser]

The Nuggets have some good pieces. Hyland is a good 1on1 scorer off the bench. If they can deal Porter and/ or Gordon for one good forward look out!

Yeah agree these trades are going to be interesting. Should be fun!

[budwiser]

Out in the West the Clippers are the wild card. They have plenty of potential, the big question mark is Kawhi and his knee. The guy is a hermit and I'm not sure he's 100%.

There's no reason to buy tix and lose to inflation because the odds won't change much until before the playoffs. So I'm not wedded to any team in the West. Played the Nets to protect the odds, I don't want to get them at 3 to 1 to win the East. Less risk higher reward.

[jjgold]

Clips are real tough

Wall looks great of he stays healthy

[budwiser]

Wall 32 doesn't turn 33 until after the playoffs. Still in his prime for this year. If we only knew what Kawhi was about.

[jjgold]

Wall still one of the fastest guys in the league with the ball in his hands it’s unbelievable

[budwiser]

Wall still one of the fastest guys in the league with the ball in his hands it’s unbelievable

agree he's a treat. i watched him live once. put up a dunk like he hit a trampoline. these guys are caviar

[jjgold]

Clippers should win it all if healthy

[budwiser]

Clippers should win it all if healthy

yeah that's just it. which is why i have to wait

[budwiser]

Nets beating up on the Raptors reminds me. In the NBA, a good offense beats a good defense. Golden State was never a great defensive team.

Imagine saying that in the 80s. There is no way you could say that. But with all these rules, can't use your elbow to defend a guy...amazingly though the offensive guy can...they changed the rules. Used to be hard to get a total over 200.

Look at the Lakers loaded with defense and they can't get out of their own way. As everyone knows Curry changed the game to pop a shot.

[IBetYou]

Simmons played quite well there. Nets look good when they get stops. I don't think their halfcourt offense is good at all... when they get stops they get out in transition. When they don't you get the Philly game...

[IBetYou]

I agree Watanabe is a difference maker for them. He is Japan's best baller, not Hachimura.

[budwiser]

Simmons is the best player on the Nets. The guy does everything but shoot jump shots. His transition passing is elite, he's fast like a cat his passes are strong. For all the talk about what a head case he is, his ability to see the floor and pass on the break as a 6'10" guy is very unusual, elite. You see him bring the ball up the floor, unlike with Durant who is both too weak and too tall to dribble the ball up the floor. I was waiting for him to join the Nets in the playoffs last year, there was never a reason to chance it. The wild card with the guy of course is will he stay psychologically ready. I think so, postgame yesterday he said he was in a happy place with the team. At 26 he is in his prime, no age/wear factor.

We'll see about Watanabe, if he can keep it up. Shooting over 50% from 3 at 6'8", the guy is pure hustle and smarts. I have a lot of respect for the Japanese culture. World Cup they said when they left the arena the fans cleaned up the stadium. You never see their soccer players dive for calls. Honda and Toyota remade the car industry. Course they had WWII and kamikazes so not everyone is perfect lol Atheistic country, warrior mentality, honor, unlike China who focus on the common man. Quite interesting. I'm getting way off track...Jeremy Lin came into the league on fire and flamed out. I'm not saying Watanabe will flame out but I'm waiting on him. He's out with a hamstring injury, hopefully nothing major. At 6'8" it's doubtful he's a flameout but I'm taking a wait-and-see on the guy.

The radio said what you said, when the team plays defense they can fast break and they get buckets. You look at the weakness it's the same old story, 23 to 7 offensive rebounds for the Raptors. The difference from last night with the 6ers is the Raptors couldn't hit their shots. We all know what the weakness of the Nets is, and they better trade for a guy who eats rebounds for lunch. But it's tricky because if the guy is too slow it's going to kill their transition. So the GM has a lot of work to do.

[budwiser]

Also teams are going to crash the boards against the Nets. The problem with that is, and the Raptors found this out last night, if you don't get the rebound, then it's off to the races with the Nets. And they kill teams as you said on the break, there's no stopping the players they got on the team in the open floor.

[budwiser]

You can see the team coming together. That's why I picked up the odds for East and title. If they win a couple more games in a row, those odds are going down. but they are still there. low risk high reward, what else could you want. You can't tell me the bucks and celtics are better than the Nets, it's anybody's game-but the price for the bucks and nets is way above what it is for the nets right now.

[jjgold]

You can see the team coming together. That's why I picked up the odds for East and title. If they win a couple more games in a row, those odds are going down. but they are still there. low risk high reward, what else could you want. You can't tell me the bucks and celtics are better than the Nets, it's anybody's game-but the price for the bucks and nets is way above what it is for the nets right now.

They still look rusty though , cannot lose to Phila who had no top guys playing

[IBetYou]

Simmons is the best player on the Nets. The guy does everything but shoot jump shots. His transition passing is elite, he's fast like a cat his passes are strong. For all the talk about what a head case he is, his ability to see the floor and pass on the break as a 6'10" guy is very unusual, elite. You see him bring the ball up the floor, unlike with Durant who is both too weak and too tall to dribble the ball up the floor. I was waiting for him to join the Nets in the playoffs last year, there was never a reason to chance it. The wild card with the guy of course is will he stay psychologically ready. I think so, postgame yesterday he said he was in a happy place with the team. At 26 he is in his prime, no age/wear factor.

We'll see about Watanabe, if he can keep it up. Shooting over 50% from 3 at 6'8", the guy is pure hustle and smarts. I have a lot of respect for the Japanese culture. World Cup they said when they left the arena the fans cleaned up the stadium. You never see their soccer players dive for calls. Honda and Toyota remade the car industry. Course they had WWII and kamikazes so not everyone is perfect lol Atheistic country, warrior mentality, honor, unlike China who focus on the common man. Quite interesting. I'm getting way off track...Jeremy Lin came into the league on fire and flamed out. I'm not saying Watanabe will flame out but I'm waiting on him. He's out with a hamstring injury, hopefully nothing major. At 6'8" it's doubtful he's a flameout but I'm taking a wait-and-see on the guy.

The radio said what you said, when the team plays defense they can fast break and they get buckets. You look at the weakness it's the same old story, 23 to 7 offensive rebounds for the Raptors. The difference from last night with the 6ers is the Raptors couldn't hit their shots. We all know what the weakness of the Nets is, and they better trade for a guy who eats rebounds for lunch. But it's tricky because if the guy is too slow it's going to kill their transition. So the GM has a lot of work to do.

Lin is Taiwanese (ethnicity). Always talking about Asian racism so supposedly cares for his people but made lots of money playing for China whom were threatening his parents country with invasion at the time -he's full of shit. Deron Williams also flamed out early; both guys just a bit too slow and one too many knee injuries. Watanabe has nothing in common with them. I agree with what you say about Japan. Strong homogenous society; didn't go down the path of multi-culturism as many west-Euro countries have.

Nets aren't on the same level as the Bucks/ Celtics lol...

[budwiser]

Lin is Taiwanese (ethnicity). Always talking about Asian racism so supposedly cares for his people but made lots of money playing for China whom were threatening his parents country with invasion at the time -he's full of shit. Deron Williams also flamed out early; both guys just a bit too slow and one too many knee injuries. Watanabe has nothing in common with them. I agree with what you say about Japan. Strong homogenous society; didn't go down the path of multi-culturism as many west-Euro countries have.

Nets aren't on the same level as the Bucks/ Celtics lol...

Yeah I knew Lin wasn't Japanese. But sure they have things in common-they are foreign players. Enes "Freedom" Kanter is 30 can't find a job.


Steve Nash a Canadian never acclimated to NBA coaching. For all the talk about him being so smart, his parents put him in a new school private
school.

The NBA is a culture on its own. There is no other league with so many prima-donnas. There are guys who don't share the ball. Basketball is a unique game in that if a coach doesn't like you, you have to sit on the bench. Cue Blake Griffin, who took a paycut to win a title. You can go in any time, it's based on the coach. Egos are everywhere, jealousy all that. It's a lot to deal with. There's a fine line between a team playing together (now) and team not (Nash) and that's the difference in my tickets-that and Ben Simmons playing. Could b wrong, I'm sure on some level I am lol

[budwiser]

As for the Celtics, the Celtics are a bunch of power forwards. As if that wasn't enough the Celtics picked up another power forward in Blake Griffin lol

[budwiser]

It's funny for all the talk about how great Michael Jordan is, can you imagine the # of guys who hate him.

Pippen doesn't seem like he's his #1 fan, and he's his teammate.

Can you imagine what Isiah thinks. Kept him from being on the Drean Team and badmouths him.

Can you imagine what Stockton and Malone think.

Basketball there are only 5 guys who make it on the floor. There's no other team sport that I'm aware of with so few players. Football lots of guys get in on special teams, offense defense. Hockey you got 3 shifts. Baseball you rotate pitchers, and on off days new guys come in, and you got 162 games a year. Basketball? The coach picks starters-and these guys tend to play all year. And that's why I was critical of Nash-he had guys eating wood during the playoffs-you give Blake Griffin a chance. I don't care what you think-it's not about what you think-because you could be wrong. As said, Nash's parents took him out of school and into a private school because his grades suck. For whatever reason people think the guy is smart.

For all the guys that are in the NBA, there's at least 10 guys who think they could play in the NBA with them. They can't obviously, but that's what they believe.

[budwiser]

They still look rusty though , cannot lose to Phila who had no top guys playing

Yeah you can lose to anyone. Philly was on fire hitting 50% of their 3s. The bigger issue though you're right is you can't lose, can't get killed on the boards

But..the team has won 3 of their last 4 now, including at Portland

[budwiser]

I will never forget as a kid playing on a youth basketball team. There was a requirement each kid got to play a minimum of 1 quarter. So what did the coach do? Made sure I played only 1 quarter, the 3rd quarter, while his son-who played point guard-played the whole game. I didn't play long for that team.

I wish I could see this "Dad", "Father of the Year" for real these days, as an adult.

[IBetYou]

Nets getting TJ.Warren back soon. He will help them a lot if he can return to form.

[budwiser]

Excited about it. Vaughn will give him a chance. That's all you can ask from a coach

[jtoler]

Simmons is the best player on the Nets.

you expect to be taken seriously?

[budwiser]

By you? I hope not.

[budwiser]

Nets coming together as a team. Luckily they have simmons who isn't a center but led the team in rebounds

Simmons for old harden was a steal

[budwiser]

Starting lineup durant irving curry simmons center. You tell me that can't win a title

[milwaukee mike]

Starting lineup durant irving curry simmons center. You tell me that can't win a title

chill out man

you've posted 33 times in this thread in the past week, and one of those times was to say that ben simmons is somehow better than freaking kevin durant

if you want to talk to yourself start a diary

[mjsuax13]

I will never forget as a kid playing on a youth basketball team. There was a requirement each kid got to play a minimum of 1 quarter. So what did the coach do? Made sure I played only 1 quarter, the 3rd quarter, while his son-who played point guard-played the whole game. I didn't play long for that team.

I wish I could see this "Dad", "Father of the Year" for real these days, as an adult.

I know the dad. He said you couldn’t hoop so you are lucky you got to play at all.

[IBetYou]

chill out man

you've posted 33 times in this thread in the past week, and one of those times was to say that ben simmons is somehow better than freaking kevin durant

if you want to talk to yourself start a diary

wth?! When was the last time you posted anything remotely interesting?

[jjgold]

They can’t win a title because they don’t play Defense