Who's the surprise team that could win the NCAA tournament?

**2Sweeet** · 03-12-23, 09:59 PM

If we r going balls to the wall sleeper give me Iona

**stevenash** · 03-12-23, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by 2Sweeet

If we r going balls to the wall sleeper give me Iona

I live in southwest Connecticut, I'm a UConn homer, I also follow Yale in the Ivy and Fairfield in the MAAC.
I live virtually next door to the Fairfield U. campus, the Stags suck monkey balls in all sports, but I like them not to mention my best friend graduated from Fairfield.

I watch a lot of MAAC games, Pitino's Iona team is tough, and as a huge Huky supporter this game scares me to death.

**Nate rasta** · 03-13-23, 09:47 AM

TCU

**Otters27** · 03-13-23, 09:52 AM

Creighton

**dante1** · 03-13-23, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by agendaman

penn state

this is a joke right. god how I wish, I would be so happy. actually I would be thrilled if they beat A and M. valiant effort yesterday.

**dante1** · 03-13-23, 09:59 AM

but, just because you mentioned that team I will toss a small amount on them. just for shitz and giggles.

**d2bets** · 03-13-23, 10:02 AM

VCU is so underrated. The A-10 is underrated. It's a crime they are only a 12 seed. I like St. Mary's, but VCU should beat them and then beat Connecticut.

**Goat Milk** · 03-14-23, 02:56 PM

It's amazing how many comments there are in here and yet not one comment that mentions an actual player on the court.

"Junior player, guaranteed NBA player, guaranteed NBA starter, 2 way player" etc etc.

Players win championships, not coaches. That's why Pop hasn't done anything since he lost Tim Duncan. That saracuse guy everyone was drooling over only won 1 ring in 50 years, and not surprising that it came from one of the best nba players of all time.

**Goat Milk** · 03-14-23, 02:59 PM

Unless I see comments that feature my criteria in the original post I will assume that they are all a bunch of darts being thrown. Until then I await the person to make the right argument so I can follow them on a future.

**Husker36** · 03-14-23, 03:59 PM

I think it will be Alabama vs Houston. But I could see Uconn or Marquette

**sweethook** · 03-14-23, 09:43 PM

C of C ..

**homie1975** · 03-15-23, 12:38 AM

3 seed Gonzaga (no one talking about them)
9 seed Auburn (same)

**homie1975** · 03-15-23, 12:40 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

FAU
Kent St
VCU

all 3 teams are excellent Mid Majors

and all 3 are underdogs.

i see that group going 1-2 in the first round

only 1 advancing.

hope i am wrong. all 3 are tremendous squads.

FAU very young though

Kent St playing Indiana who is scary when their heads are in it.

VCU playing traditional mid major power Saint Mary's

**homie1975** · 03-15-23, 12:41 AM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

It's amazing how many comments there are in here and yet not one comment that mentions an actual player on the court.

"Junior player, guaranteed NBA player, guaranteed NBA starter, 2 way player" etc etc.

Players win championships, not coaches. That's why Pop hasn't done anything since he lost Tim Duncan. That saracuse guy everyone was drooling over only won 1 ring in 50 years, and not surprising that it came from one of the best nba players of all time.

NBA is a player's league

NCAA is a COACH's game

**Optional** · 03-15-23, 03:42 AM

VCU Rowdy Rams

**Goat Milk** · 03-15-23, 04:34 AM

Originally posted by homie1975

NBA is a player's league

NCAA is a COACH's game

There's a reason Brunson Mikael Bridges Divenzeno and Josh Hart won 2 rings in 3/4 years. All 4 of those guys start in the nba.

**Mackballs** · 03-15-23, 05:08 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

VCU is so underrated. The A-10 is underrated. It's a crime they are only a 12 seed. I like St. Mary's, but VCU should beat them and then beat Connecticut.

Why should st Mary's beat VCU and Connecticut?

**MoMoneyMoVaughn** · 03-15-23, 08:31 AM

VCU +4.5 seems like such a fukkin trap.

St. Mary’s is weirdly underrated. A few close ones go their way during OOC and I think they could be 3 seed.

They had a stretch early in the year where they lost to Washington, New Mexico and Houston all by less than two possessions.

Lots of people will be on VCU

**Nate rasta** · 03-15-23, 08:49 AM

People lost faith in Saint Mary's because they got blown out by Gonzaga. But that championship game didn't really mean much to St Mary's and they were maybe fatigued them playing three days straight in a row

**d2bets** · 03-15-23, 09:05 AM

Originally posted by MoMoneyMoVaughn

VCU +4.5 seems like such a fukkin trap.

St. Mary’s is weirdly underrated. A few close ones go their way during OOC and I think they could be 3 seed.

They had a stretch early in the year where they lost to Washington, New Mexico and Houston all by less than two possessions.

Lots of people will be on VCU

They're not underrated as a 4 seed. I don't hate St. Mary's, but VCU is tougher and more complete. VCU is the most underrated team in the tourney. Can't get over them as a 12 seed. It's ridiculous. They should be a 6 or 7 seed. I grabbed VCU early at +6.5 and ML +220.

**Optional** · 03-15-23, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

They're not underrated as a 4 seed. I don't hate St. Mary's, but VCU is tougher and more complete. VCU is the most underrated team in the tourney. Can't get over them as a 12 seed. It's ridiculous. They should be a 6 or 7 seed. I grabbed VCU early at +6.5 and ML +220.

I think they may have been 12th seed as well last time they "shocked the world" and made final 4.

**Nate rasta** · 03-15-23, 09:32 AM

VCU is a great March Madness team, seems like they're always making a run but I think this year they got a bad matchup. first round out

**Headsterx** · 03-15-23, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

They're not underrated as a 4 seed. I don't hate St. Mary's, but VCU is tougher and more complete. VCU is the most underrated team in the tourney. Can't get over them as a 12 seed. It's ridiculous. They should be a 6 or 7 seed. I grabbed VCU early at +6.5 and ML +220.

Yup, I got VCU for the slight upset, too.

**MoMoneyMoVaughn** · 03-15-23, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

They're not underrated as a 4 seed. I don't hate St. Mary's, but VCU is tougher and more complete. VCU is the most underrated team in the tourney. Can't get over them as a 12 seed. It's ridiculous. They should be a 6 or 7 seed. I grabbed VCU early at +6.5 and ML +220.

As a 5 seed I think they are in the right spot. I just think they have 3 losses that could have been wins which would
Have vaulted them into a higher seed and we would look at them differently.

Having said that they were pedestrian down the stretch.

Honestly this is one of those games where I can’t talk my self into either side. VCU being a 12 seed is dumb. Rough draw for St Mary’s to have a solid season and then end up against such a good team.

**lakerboy** · 03-15-23, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

They're not underrated as a 4 seed. I don't hate St. Mary's, but VCU is tougher and more complete. VCU is the most underrated team in the tourney. Can't get over them as a 12 seed. It's ridiculous. They should be a 6 or 7 seed. I grabbed VCU early at +6.5 and ML +220.

Just take all the 12 seeds. Oral Roberts I don't like but you won't go wrong with the other 3.

**jackpot269** · 03-15-23, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Just take all the 12 seeds. Oral Roberts I don't like but you won't go wrong with the other 3.

As soon as the brackets come out, fans often target No. 12 seeds for first-round upsets, because past 12 seeds tend to stick out in everyone’s mind. However, teams seeded No. 12 have a 23-44 record since 2011, when the tournament expanded to 68 teams. No. 11 seeds, on the other hand, have gone 46-44 over that span, a huge contrast to their more sought-after bracket-busting brethren. In fact, No. 11 seeds actually have better records over the past 11 iterations than single-digit seeds such as No. 5s, No. 6s, No. 8s and No. 9s.

**Art Vandelay** · 03-15-23, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by stevek173

Arizona can beat or lose to anyone. Fact.

A lot of teams in that boat - That's why it's so tough this year...

**jackpot269** · 03-15-23, 10:41 AM

HAVE THESE TWO GOING TO THE FINAL 4

Uconn

Marquette

**d2bets** · 03-15-23, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by jackpot269

As soon as the brackets come out, fans often target No. 12 seeds for first-round upsets, because past 12 seeds tend to stick out in everyone’s mind. However, teams seeded No. 12 have a 23-44 record since 2011, when the tournament expanded to 68 teams. No. 11 seeds, on the other hand, have gone 46-44 over that span, a huge contrast to their more sought-after bracket-busting brethren. In fact, No. 11 seeds actually have better records over the past 11 iterations than single-digit seeds such as No. 5s, No. 6s, No. 8s and No. 9s.

Huh? We just established that 5 seeds are 44-23 and 11 seeds are 46-44. Something here ain't right.

**INVEGA MAN** · 03-15-23, 01:10 PM

Creighton
TCU

**homie1975** · 03-15-23, 01:31 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

Huh? We just established that 5 seeds are 44-23 and 11 seeds are 46-44. Something here ain't right.

Yes that 11 seed stat is way off. Not even close.

**homie1975** · 03-15-23, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by jackpot269

HAVE THESE TWO GOING TO THE FINAL 4

Uconn

Marquette

All the talking heads on espn picking uconn so in thatvrefion I picked Gonzaga

**homie1975** · 03-15-23, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by Nate rasta

VCU is a great March Madness team, seems like they're always making a run but I think this year they got a bad matchup. first round out

Only when shaka smart was coach. Outside of him they've made maybe one sweet 16 and thr rest were flameouts in rd 1 or 2

I like the school, the tradition, and the dogs they recruit, but they've disappointed me in the tourney most years do I have then losing in round 1.

**Goat Milk** · 03-15-23, 03:01 PM

Still waiting for one poster to discuss a contender's roster. Just reading general statements here about tough outs and trends. College basketball is usually dictated by the starting lineups. In the tournaments a lot of teams only have a 7 man rotation. It'd be so easy to cap this shit if I actually watched these snoozefest games.

**KVB** · 03-15-23, 03:20 PM

I agree with Goater and can say the same thing about the lack of any discussion of probablities, even common opponents. There are recipes for success, they're rarely followed.

It's strange.

But yeah, a lot of top teams have talent that will not be denied.

I think the Big10 is suspect but Zach Edey could do what he wants when he wants against anyone he wants. Period. They key on him, and the team is exposed. But even if the key in on him, if he wants it he gets it.

So if he's down, Purdue is a beast to stop. If Purdue is in the Final Four, he will likely make a mark.

Kentucky too, Oscar Tshiebwe will be in the house.

Even Kendric Davis could get Kemba Walker dangerous, he's in Memphis. Memphis might play Purude, the winner of that could get far. Further, Memphis has DeAndre Williams, the forward. He's the oldest player in the whole dance this year.

The Zags have Drew Timme, is he NBA ready? UCLA's Jaime Jaquez good in college but probably over rated NBA. I dunno.

There are a lot of ballers, on a lot of teams. A lot of guys in this tournament will do very well in the NBA but won't get far in the tourney.

How about tonight, The Fairleigh Dickinson's guard, Grant Singleton, might get you the win tonight. He's sneaky good.

I could go on and on. There are good players sprinkled all over this mutherfukker.

Teams like K State, Memphis, Marquette, have multiple ballers.

The marquette Guard and Center combo with Tyler Kolek and Oso Ighodaro, could be dangerous. Take what I said about Memphis and kick it up a notch.

There's a lot to consider for sure. Brandon Miller at Alabama won't be denied either. At one point, two guys that will be NBA players and won't be denied will face off.

Brandon Miller might very well be the best player in the entire tournament.

A lot of talent in this tournament. I could go on and on.