Deandre Hopkins released

**d2bets** · 05-26-23, 12:17 PM

I'm surprised they couldn't trade him at all.

**asiagambler** · 05-26-23, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

I'm surprised they couldn't trade him at all.

They were asking for way too much when they didn't have much leverage and Hopkins didn't really help his team out in that regard by going overboard with the speculation and the attention grabbing

**DrunkHorseplayer** · 05-26-23, 01:14 PM

The Redskins will sign him.

**Madison** · 05-26-23, 01:17 PM

Arizona worst in NFL 2023/24??

**asiagambler** · 05-26-23, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by Madison

Arizona worst in NFL 2023/24??

Yes they want the #1 pick

**d2bets** · 05-26-23, 01:35 PM

Chiefs

**DwightShrute** · 05-26-23, 01:41 PM

CFL

**lakerboy** · 05-26-23, 01:49 PM

Bum

**JIBBBY** · 05-26-23, 01:50 PM

Hopkins disease. Must be a problem for the team and a cancer in the locker room to just release him like that!

**asiagambler** · 05-26-23, 02:04 PM

He is still good as long as he doesn't get caught again

**mjsuax13** · 05-26-23, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by Madison

Arizona worst in NFL 2023/24??

Yes sir. They have a terrible QB contract too. They want the #1 pick. I don’t know what for though… they will fukk it up.

**DwightShrute** · 05-26-23, 02:50 PM

the good and bad Hopkins

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">DeAndre Hopkins spent part of yesterday driving around Downtown Phoenix and giving out bottles of water to those who needed it on another very hot day. <a href="https://t.co/kgccDrDSoT">pic.twitter.com/kgccDrDSoT</a></p>— Kevin Zimmerman (@KZimmermanAZ) <a href="https://twitter.com/KZimmermanAZ/status/1550133380586426369?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >July 21, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What a pillar of the community, driving in the breakdown lane and flipping off political supporters he doesn't agree with. Quality signing Bidwell fam. <a href="https://t.co/mDhkf45rR3">pic.twitter.com/mDhkf45rR3</a></p>— Jim Gill (@JimGill02665256) <a href="https://twitter.com/JimGill02665256/status/1320518316058836992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >October 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

**stevex** · 05-26-23, 03:09 PM

Pleaseeee sign him Giants.

**JIBBBY** · 05-26-23, 04:17 PM

The good the bad and the ugly as it appears.

**TheMoneyShot** · 05-26-23, 04:34 PM

Hope he saved his money. Not worth much anymore. Of course... some desperate team will sign him.

**asiagambler** · 05-26-23, 04:46 PM

**Stallion** · 05-26-23, 05:14 PM

Arizona is tanking for the #1 overall pick next season. They also have Houston's 1st round pick from the draft day trade, so they might have 2 top 5 picks next season. I think they will either trade or release Kyler Murray and draft Caleb Williams if they get the #1 overall pick

**stevenash** · 05-26-23, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by stevex

Pleaseeee sign him Giants.

I'm a diehard NYG fan.
I don't want him playing for 'my' team.

Plus Mara doesn't like distractions like Hopkins.

He's a perfect fit for Belichick though.

**newton0038** · 05-26-23, 05:44 PM

Attention whore Jerry Jones will sign the fucktard.

**stevenash** · 05-26-23, 05:58 PM

^
They could use him.
No more Zeke, they don't have anything good at TE, Dak needs more than just Lamb.

**asiagambler** · 05-26-23, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

^
They could use him.
No more Zeke, they don't have anything good at TE, Dak needs more than just Lamb.

Didn't they get Brandon Cooks from Houston ?

**stevenash** · 05-26-23, 06:36 PM

^
Yeah, I forgot about that trade.

**wquine** · 05-26-23, 07:17 PM

More like Brandon Cooked

**gauchojake** · 05-26-23, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by Stallion

Arizona is tanking for the #1 overall pick next season. They also have Houston's 1st round pick from the draft day trade, so they might have 2 top 5 picks next season. I think they will either trade or release Kyler Murray and draft Caleb Williams if they get the #1 overall pick

They will need to out-tank the Rams for Caleb

**Goat Milk** · 05-27-23, 01:20 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

I'm surprised they couldn't trade him at all.

They didn't trade him because they are a horrible organization run by morons. You could have easily, very easily, gotten a second round pick for hopkins. Or you could trade him for a veteran player you actually need. Instead, they released him and took a huge cap hit lmfao. The bozos that run these organizaitons never cease to amaze me.

**Goat Milk** · 05-27-23, 01:23 AM

Originally posted by stevenash

I'm a diehard NYG fan.
I don't want him playing for 'my' team.

Plus Mara doesn't like distractions like Hopkins.

He's a perfect fit for Belichick though.

The Giants literally have no wrs. They are awful. They will never sniff a superbowl with that roster. There's only one elite playmaker on their entire team and he's a running back. They got blown the f out by philly in the playoffs and philly didn't even break a sweat.

Hopkins dumps on everyone in your giants organization talent wise. Guy called out the ridiculous cultures in Houston and Arizona, two of the shittiest organizations in NFL history. Why would a guy who's been a first team all pro who is still in his prime do that? Cause the guy wants to win, and he's surrounded by losers like Kyle Murray, a little rodent playing quarterback.

**Thefix13** · 05-27-23, 06:59 AM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

They didn't trade him because they are a horrible organization run by morons. You could have easily, very easily, gotten a second round pick for hopkins. Or you could trade him for a veteran player you actually need. Instead, they released him and took a huge cap hit lmfao. The bozos that run these organizaitons never cease to amaze me.

Easily? It's been a few months of rumors of him being moved and no team came forward with such an offer. Why allow him to hit free agency if you could EASILY have paid a 2nd round pick for a 30 year old wr? Happens ALL the time. It's a poorly run franchise but don't assume the rest of the league is also incompetent and has zero respect for draft capital. Deandre Swift was moved for a melted kit kat and a scratch off ticket and he's young. You don't pay a 2nd round pick AND a fat salary to a guy who has maybe 1.5 seasons left in the tank.

**Goat Milk** · 05-27-23, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by Thefix13

Easily? It's been a few months of rumors of him being moved and no team came forward with such an offer. Why allow him to hit free agency if you could EASILY have paid a 2nd round pick for a 30 year old wr? Happens ALL the time. It's a poorly run franchise but don't assume the rest of the league is also incompetent and has zero respect for draft capital. Deandre Swift was moved for a melted kit kat and a scratch off ticket and he's young. You don't pay a 2nd round pick AND a fat salary to a guy who has maybe 1.5 seasons left in the tank.

A 2nd round pick is nothing, 90% of all second round picks are busts.

**asiagambler** · 05-27-23, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

They didn't trade him because they are a horrible organization run by morons. You could have easily, very easily, gotten a second round pick for hopkins. Or you could trade him for a veteran player you actually need. Instead, they released him and took a huge cap hit lmfao. The bozos that run these organizaitons never cease to amaze me.

No they couldn't have. Teams weren't willing to give up that much unless Arizona took on most or all of Hopkins' salary

And seems you're not aware that Arizona is tanking this year. A veteran player has no use for them

The whole point of cutting him now was so they absorb the cap hit THIS YEAR and clear him from their books. Free agents aren't exactly beating down their doors to play in Arizona so who cares ???

Hopkins didn't exactly help their cause either flying around the country making videos with other teams players saying who he will and won't play with

**asiagambler** · 05-27-23, 02:19 PM

And this isn't to say the Cardinals played this completely right. They should have taken what they could BEFORE the draft and 50+ WRs entered the league. A 5th round pick seemed to be about what was floated around

**d2bets** · 05-27-23, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

A 2nd round pick is nothing, 90% of all second round picks are busts.

A 2nd round pick has huge value. You are wrong.

For WR, this site claims that the second round success rate for WR is 49%. That's pretty different from your 10% claim. And these players are cheap, dirt cheap compared to veterans.

What stats tells us about the draft by round

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/2/20/8072877/what-the-statistics-tell-us-about-the-draft-by-round

The best times to draft certain positions based on the last 10 years.

**DwightShrute** · 05-27-23, 02:47 PM

The best second-round draft picks in NFL history · 5. Michael Strahan · 4. Mike Singletary · 3. Brett Favre · 2. Rob Gronkowski · 1. Drew Brees.

**asiagambler** · 05-27-23, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

A 2nd round pick has huge value. You are wrong.

For WR, this site claims that the second round success rate for WR is 49%. That's pretty different from your 10% claim. And these players are cheap, dirt cheap compared to veterans.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/...draft-by-round

goat definitely made that number up

90% of 2nd round picks are busts

**d2bets** · 05-27-23, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

The best second-round draft picks in NFL history · 5. Michael Strahan · 4. Mike Singletary · 3. Brett Favre · 2. Rob Gronkowski · 1. Drew Brees.

Plenty of other examples. If a team fails 90% in the second round, it's the GM's fault. In 2019 alone, WR's taken in the 2nd round included Deebo Samuel, AJ Brown and DK Metcalf. Not too shabby. 2020 was Tee Higgins, Michael Pittman, Chase Claypool, Van Jefferson.