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  • Mike Huntertz
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 08-19-09
    • 11203

    #36
    Originally posted by texhooper
    Byeshea great post. College football from whence you speak was basically the soccer model, and as regular seasons and playoffs expand in every single sport I’ve started to yearn for such days myself. You keep adding games, adding games, adding playoff slots, and eventually you’ve slowly diluted the product. And now conferences are so big that half the conference games are gonna feel like non conference games. To stick with your example, you’re seriously gonna ask kids who are supposed to be “students” to fly three goddamn time zones to play a conference game??? A game that’s gonna really matter in regards to whether or not they play for a conference title and earn a playoff spot??? The charade is totally on display at this point. It’s not about the kids or “students” it’s about these fukking assholes lining their pockets. And Jake Peavy that’s why I’m pro-NIL and transfer portal. If within this multi-billion dollar business, schools and conferences and coaches are gonna do whatever the fukk they want, then the players should have every opportunity to maximize their own situation. It’s not ideal but that’s the world that’s been created with college athletics having lost any semblance of being an amateur league.

    Like I said earlier we’re all still gonna be here watching and paying attention and betting regardless but this is just getting to be a lot. Washington to New Jersey. Oregon to Pennsylvania. California to Maryland for fukks sake. Like 2Pac said they don’t give a fukk about us
    This hasn't happened to NCAA Basketball?
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    • ChuckyTheGoat
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 04-04-11
      • 36651

      #37
      Salud, ByeShea. Great post.

      If Alab/Geo line up on the SEC schedule, we can look forward to 3 game. RegSea/SEC Champ/Natl Title game. Best of 3, that sounds terrible.
      Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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      • texhooper
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-05-09
        • 10001

        #38
        Originally posted by Mike Huntertz
        This hasn't happened to NCAA Basketball?
        I mean for as long as I can remember in my short time on this big blue testicle in God’s great sack, the NCAA basketball season has been about 30ish games with conference tournaments and the 60ish team Big Tango. To me it works pretty well, and I think most people agree. And you know, with the FBS playoff will come different levels of intrigue that didn’t exist previously. Teams right below the upper crust trying to lock up slots, “bubble teams,” all that. It ain't gonna be all bad. Sports tend to be fun kinda no matter what. But we can’t deny that one of the hallmarks of American football is that it’s traditionally been a small number of games where each one means A LOT, and I think we’ve seen in all the American pro leagues that the more games you add either regular or post season, it tends to take away from that urgency.

        If you’re talking about the travel aspect, they generally do the big travel during school breaks. Like when they go to the Bahamas and all that shit. They’re not asking kids from Eugene Oregon to fly to New Jersey during midterms or whatever.

        I mean ultimately we will all survive to live another day through all this, but for now I find it appropriate to lament the days of yore as memories flow like semen through my mind, impregnating my spirit with the fetus of purity and tradition. Post quick reply
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        • Mr KLC
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          • 12-19-07
          • 30993

          #39
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          • texhooper
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 01-05-09
            • 10001

            #40
            Coach Drinkwitz raises more great points about all this goofiness. Good find KLC
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            • Shute
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              • 03-20-17
              • 11835

              #41
              The winners get the spoils
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              • bonzaii
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 07-07-17
                • 5000

                #42
                I'm all for better matchups and less cupcake games. So If all this conference reshuffling consolidates everything in favor of less easy non conference games than it will probably be a better thing overall.
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                • Art Vandelay
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-11-06
                  • 6672

                  #43
                  Not sure of 2025 w 18+ teams but this is the final year of East & West. Next year with USC & UCLA there will be one division with the two top teams playing in the conference championship. The schedule will obviously be very unbalanced - Should be interesting...
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                  • bonzaii
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 07-07-17
                    • 5000

                    #44
                    They should look to add Stanford and Notre Dame if they are interested. Makes sense that Notre Dame is going to join the conference at some point with BIG getting involved with NBC. 20 is a much better number than 18.
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                    • texhooper
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-05-09
                      • 10001

                      #45
                      Just because there are more teams in conference doesn’t mean they’re going to play more conference games. The only thing that will drive that will be qualifying for the playoff. Teams will continue scheduling as light as they can possibly get away with
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                      • bonzaii
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 07-07-17
                        • 5000

                        #46
                        Originally posted by texhooper
                        Just because there are more teams in conference doesn’t mean they’re going to play more conference games. The only thing that will drive that will be qualifying for the playoff. Teams will continue scheduling as light as they can possibly get away with
                        RUMOR: Big Ten ‘will most likely’ move to 10 game conference schedule following recent expansion

                        The additions of Oregon and Washington will reportedly result in an additional Big Ten conference game on everyone's schedule
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                        • texhooper
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                          • 01-05-09
                          • 10001

                          #47
                          It’s pretty normal right now for a power team to have one OOC power game and two cupcakes. All that means, if they go to that 10 game conference model, is the two OOC games will most likely be cupcakes. They even give that as the example at the end of your article
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                          • JIBBBY
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 12-10-09
                            • 83691

                            #48
                            College rivalries now a thing of the past with this division shift.
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                            • bonzaii
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 07-07-17
                              • 5000

                              #49
                              SEC football doesn't have to fear the Big Ten – yet. But what if the ACC fractures?




                              The Big Ten's four additions will enhance its conference, but they don’t push the SEC off the football summit.

                              The SEC was not interested in adding Pac-12 teams. If the ACC were to fracture, though, that likely would generate action from the SEC.

                              So far, the Big Ten has not penetrated the South.

                              Fissures are forming in the ACC, with Florida State loudly and repeatedly barking in dissent of the conference’s media rights deal, which pales in financial comparison to the Big Ten and SEC deals.

                              What if fissures become fractures? So far, the media rights deal has glued ACC membership in place, but if programs like FSU find an escape hatch, the SEC must be ready to pounce, lest the Big Ten invade valuable Southern terrain.

                              Unlike the Pac-12, the ACC has produced three national champions in the past 10 seasons (Clemson twice and FSU once). Clemson and FSU are ranked preseason top 10. The Big Ten snapping up either of those programs would be a coup.


                              Then there’s North Carolina, a basketball blueblood with a football program that’s played respectably under Mack Brown. North Carolina is a growing state, and Charlotte headquarters the SEC Network. In the past, the SEC has embraced opportunities to expand into border states that mesh with the conference’s brand. North Carolina checks that box. If the Big Ten nabbed the Tar Heels out from under the SEC’s nose, it would sting.

                              Bottom line: The Big Ten’s heist of four Pac-12 schools made it better. However, the adds don’t propel the B1G past the SEC. But, if the ACC were to fracture and the Big Ten outdueled the SEC for some of the ACC's top brands, that would be a fiercer blow.

                              The SEC must stay vigilant and be ready to act if ACC schools are determined to break out of the conference’s sticky grant of rights.

                              The Big Ten’s heist of key Pac-12 schools made it better, but that didn't push the B1G past the SEC. Plundering top ACC brands would change the outlook, though.
                              There is news that the BIG Ten would be able to swoop in and get FSU if they were able to leave their conference but I think its more likely schools like Miami, Clemson, and FSU go the the SEC where schools like Duke, North Carolina, and Virginia go to the BIG Ten.
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                              • TheMoneyShot
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                                • 02-14-07
                                • 28672

                                #50
                                Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                The transfer portal being flung wide open was the beginning of the end for college football purists. There really doesn't exist any allegiance to a school or region anymore, it's only about money and visibility for players so why should conferences be any different? Everyone's just grabbing anything they can get their hands on right now that they believe might improve their brand.
                                Excellent post. Now the Big 10 Network will increase to $19.99 a month. Wonderful. Stock just went up!
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