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  • bonzaii
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-07-17
    • 5000

    #1
    Oregon and Washington to BIG 10
    Bad for college sports losing tradition? Or better now better matchups now in the regular season?
  • Da Manster!
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-13-07
    • 17720

    #2
    I almost threw up when I saw that. College sports is all about money and tv revenue right now. like I told my former roommate a while back, they need to just get rid of "conferences" altogether and just have 4 directional super divisions. North, East, South, and West. and then split up all Division 1-A teams (yes, I still call them that) evenly according to geographical locations and proximities. (like how conferences were originally formed).
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    • 19th Hole
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-22-09
      • 18828

      #3
      Tough to see what's happening in Pro-College Football.
      BIG10 going coast to coast.

      The college football landscape is getting smaller and smaller.
      Looks like wer'e heading to 3 conferences with 25 teams each.

      $$$ makes the world go 'round.
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      • ByeShea
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 06-30-08
        • 8034

        #4
        Originally posted by bonzaii
        Bad for college sports losing tradition? Or better now better matchups now in the regular season?
        So bad. College football has been trending in a shitty direction for years.

        If you recall seeing Keith Jackson call a Rose Bowl back in the day or a Big 10 rivalry game, you truly were seeing the best the game got.
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        • ChuckyTheGoat
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          • 04-04-11
          • 36652

          #5
          Originally posted by bonzaii
          Bad for college sports losing tradition? Or better now better matchups now in the regular season?
          I wish the would split the FBS into: Major Conf and Mid-Majors.

          *Would be fun to see the Mid-Majors compete for a title. FBS is too top-heavy right now.

          As for the tradition...it's all about the $$. Geography be damned. Getting very close to 4 major Conf.
          Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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          • actiondan
            SBR MVP
            • 10-16-10
            • 3398

            #6
            looking forward to rutgers vs washington
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            • texhooper
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              • 01-05-09
              • 10001

              #7
              I generally try to take change in sports as it comes. It’s inevitable, and I’m never going to stop following and betting (I don’t think I will at least haha) so might as well just deal with it. Usually it all works out for the most part. But this shit is just getting to be a lot to process. It most certainly won’t be as bad as we think it will be, very easy to write doomsday scenarios, but this just doesn’t feel at all what college sports should be about, which is $$$$$ above all else. Damn your traditions and anything you may hold sacred, this is about how the rich can get richer to the highest possible degree.

              Don’t forget too we’re getting rid of divisions, can’t wait for Ohio State/Michigan two weeks in a row every single year for the rest of our lives
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              • Brock Landers
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 06-30-08
                • 45360

                #8
                For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

                Never saw a Bible verse fit more perfectly than it does here
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                • texhooper
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-05-09
                  • 10001

                  #9
                  Brock that may be your best post ever and I’m not even a religious man
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                  • 19th Hole
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                    • 03-22-09
                    • 18828

                    #10
                    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is B1G. ��️ <a href="https://t.co/rrBWAWF6xZ">pic.twitter.com/rrBWAWF6xZ</a></p>&mdash; Big Ten Network (@BigTenNetwork) <a href="https://twitter.com/BigTenNetwork/status/1687594697349320704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >August 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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                    • 19th Hole
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                      • 03-22-09
                      • 18828

                      #11
                      <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How about you add Oregon State and WSU to get to 20 teams the set up two divisions. A western division and an eastern division.<br><br>Then name the western division the pac 10 and the eastern division the big 10.<br><br>And have the championship game in the rose bowl in Pasadena.</p>&mdash; Sean McClain (@Mcclainseanm) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mcclainseanm/status/1687675345376628736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >August 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                      • mjsuax13
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                        • 03-14-15
                        • 24783

                        #12
                        Cal/Stanford next. They don’t want Washington State and Oregon State, doesn’t move the needle. This is the big tens answer to losing consistently to the SEC when it counts. Beat them in the wallet. Only place you will.
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                        • krk1030
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                          • 08-13-08
                          • 17610

                          #13
                          Note Dame will join at some point too, and down the road the ACC will be next to get split up when Clemson leaves for the SEC
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                          • thetrinity
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-25-11
                            • 22430

                            #14
                            I wonder how this effects the playoff next season. Right now its 6 conference champions and 6 at large. There are no automatic bids but now it looks like we have 4 major conferences and 5 minor ones. I've seen some reporting that the Pac 12 had an automatic bid for the champion, but that's not true. I think that has gotten lost in this a little bit. As is, you are going to have 2 representatives from the Group of 5.
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                            • ByeShea
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 06-30-08
                              • 8034

                              #15
                              Originally posted by texhooper
                              I generally try to take change in sports as it comes. It’s inevitable, and I’m never going to stop following and betting (I don’t think I will at least haha) so might as well just deal with it. Usually it all works out for the most part. But this shit is just getting to be a lot to process. It most certainly won’t be as bad as we think it will be, very easy to write doomsday scenarios, but this just doesn’t feel at all what college sports should be about, which is $$$$$ above all else. Damn your traditions and anything you may hold sacred, this is about how the rich can get richer to the highest possible degree.

                              Don’t forget too we’re getting rid of divisions, can’t wait for Ohio State/Michigan two weeks in a row every single year for the rest of our lives
                              College football was so much better back when the actual bowl games themselves (the majors) were rivals of each other and a “champion” was decided by sportswriter voting. And I’m 100% serious.

                              It was completely archaic and unique - the regular season mattered more than the postseason, when powerhouses met in October there was no kicking the can down the road til we meet again in the postseason because THAT DAY WAS THE FUKKIN’ CHAMPIONSHIP and the winner might well have had to do it over again 7 days later. Often enough we could see 2 or 3 on a single Saturday.

                              The sport had regional grudge matches from coast to coast. That NEVER got old. As mentioned above now we have Washington & Rutgers in the same conference???? Are we going to pretend nothing went wrong in the sport? GTFO here.

                              College football has turned into a national circle jerk where two-bit announcers who’d rather be covering pro ball wonder aloud which SEC teams will be joining Alabama and Ohio State in the final four. This completely suks dik & it started sliding downhill when the OCD of faggy journalists and their lame ass readership began insisting the game needed a playoff format. Killed the importance of the regular season, then it killed the conferences. Again, Huskies vs Scarlet Knights in a Big 10 match up. Fuk you.
                              Last edited by ByeShea; 08-05-23, 08:24 AM.
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                              • Mike Huntertz
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 08-19-09
                                • 11203

                                #16
                                That's sucks. No Apple Cup? My favorite game when in Pullman and snow!
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                                • Mike Huntertz
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 08-19-09
                                  • 11203

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by ByeShea
                                  College football was so much better back when the actual bowl games themselves (the majors) were rivals of each other and a “champion” was decided by sportswriter voting. And I’m 100% serious.

                                  It was completely archaic and unique - the regular season mattered more than the postseason, when powerhouses met in October there was no kicking the can down the road til we meet again in the postseason because THAT DAY WAS THE FUKKIN’ CHAMPIONSHIP and the winner might well have had to do it over again 7 days later. Often enough we could see 2 or 3 on a single Saturday.

                                  The sport had regional grudge matches from coast to coast. That NEVER got old. As mentioned above now we have Washington & Rutgers in the same conference???? Are we going to pretend nothing went wrong in the sport? GTFO here.

                                  College football has turned into a national circle jerk where two-bit announcers who’d rather be covering pro ball wonder aloud which SEC teams will be joining Alabama and Ohio State in the final four. This completely suks dik & it started sliding downhill when the OCD of faggy journalists and their lame ass readership began insisting the game needed a playoff format. Killed the importance of the regular season, then it killed the conferences. Again, Huskies vs Scarlet Knights in a Big 10 match up. Fuk you.
                                  A great write and agree with a lot, but I still like a final playdown.
                                  March Madness is a massively enjoyed time of year and I also like the college football playoff.
                                  It gives a non major team an actual chance to win it all.
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                                  • Brock Landers
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 06-30-08
                                    • 45360

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by ByeShea
                                    College football was so much better back when the actual bowl games themselves (the majors) were rivals of each other and a “champion” was decided by sportswriter voting. And I’m 100% serious.

                                    It was completely archaic and unique - the regular season mattered more than the postseason, when powerhouses met in October there was no kicking the can down the road til we meet again in the postseason because THAT DAY WAS THE FUKKIN’ CHAMPIONSHIP and the winner might well have had to do it over again 7 days later. Often enough we could see 2 or 3 on a single Saturday.

                                    The sport had regional grudge matches from coast to coast. That NEVER got old. As mentioned above now we have Washington & Rutgers in the same conference???? Are we going to pretend nothing went wrong in the sport? GTFO here.

                                    College football has turned into a national circle jerk where two-bit announcers who’d rather be covering pro ball wonder aloud which SEC teams will be joining Alabama and Ohio State in the final four. This completely suks dik & it started sliding downhill when the OCD of faggy journalists and their lame ass readership began insisting the game needed a playoff format. Killed the importance of the regular season, then it killed the conferences. Again, Huskies vs Scarlet Knights in a Big 10 match up. Fuk you.
                                    OUTSTANDING POST!

                                    one of the best I've ever read and I agree with everything you said!
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                                    • Da Manster!
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 07-13-07
                                      • 17720

                                      #19
                                      and now the final nail in the coffin!...Arizona, Arizona ST, and Utah to move to the Big-12 in 2024!...unfukkin' real! SMH!...Pac-12 is now officially dead!...Now it's the Pac-4!

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                                      • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                        • 03-11-11
                                        • 29211

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by krk1030
                                        Note Dame will join at some point too, and down the road the ACC will be next to get split up when Clemson leaves for the SEC
                                        Disagree. Teams are moving around to get a piece of the TV revenue pie and ND does not have to worry about that as long as they are with NBC. Why would ND go to any conference to make less TV revenue than they are currently?
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                                        • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                          • 03-11-11
                                          • 29211

                                          #21
                                          Used to love college sports but NIL and all this movement of teams to new conferences has turned me off.

                                          Things have shifted from the schools having all the power over the athletes to the athletes having all the power and can leave schools for any ridiculous reason...sad.
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                                          • DrunkHorseplayer
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 05-15-10
                                            • 7719

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                            I wish the would split the FBS into: Major Conf and Mid-Majors.

                                            *Would be fun to see the Mid-Majors compete for a title. FBS is too top-heavy right now.

                                            As for the tradition...it's all about the $$. Geography be damned. Getting very close to 4 major Conf.
                                            This will happen. The top 25 or so teams will split from the rest of I-A and form their own league, much like Division I split into I-A and I-AA in 1978.
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                                            • Da Manster!
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 07-13-07
                                              • 17720

                                              #23
                                              It's too late now but what should have happened is have the conferences joining up with one another to form a super conference...A good and fair combo would have been the Pac-12 and Big-10, ACC and Big East, SEC and Big 12, and then have the AAC, MWC, MAC, C-USA, WAC and all of the others mid-majors combining. Those would be the four "super" or "mega" conferences (renamed) and divided and split all tv revenue and sponsorship monies evenly. I saw the writing on the wall when all of this shit started back in the mid-90's when the ACC raided the original Big East of most of its good teams and that started the trickle down effect and shitstorm that we have today with these goddamn teams jumping ship and playing musical conferences!
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                                              • texhooper
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-05-09
                                                • 10001

                                                #24
                                                Byeshea great post. College football from whence you speak was basically the soccer model, and as regular seasons and playoffs expand in every single sport I’ve started to yearn for such days myself. You keep adding games, adding games, adding playoff slots, and eventually you’ve slowly diluted the product. And now conferences are so big that half the conference games are gonna feel like non conference games. To stick with your example, you’re seriously gonna ask kids who are supposed to be “students” to fly three goddamn time zones to play a conference game??? A game that’s gonna really matter in regards to whether or not they play for a conference title and earn a playoff spot??? The charade is totally on display at this point. It’s not about the kids or “students” it’s about these fukking assholes lining their pockets. And Jake Peavy that’s why I’m pro-NIL and transfer portal. If within this multi-billion dollar business, schools and conferences and coaches are gonna do whatever the fukk they want, then the players should have every opportunity to maximize their own situation. It’s not ideal but that’s the world that’s been created with college athletics having lost any semblance of being an amateur league.

                                                Like I said earlier we’re all still gonna be here watching and paying attention and betting regardless but this is just getting to be a lot. Washington to New Jersey. Oregon to Pennsylvania. California to Maryland for fukks sake. Like 2Pac said they don’t give a fukk about us
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                                                • texhooper
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                  • 10001

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
                                                  This will happen. The top 25 or so teams will split from the rest of I-A and form their own league, much like Division I split into I-A and I-AA in 1978.
                                                  Now this is when I will potentially check out
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                                                  • Da Manster!
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 07-13-07
                                                    • 17720

                                                    #26
                                                    ByeShea and Texhooper with back-to-back great posts...My sentiments exactly...totally agree 100%
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                                                    • bjb7223
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 11-03-12
                                                      • 10347

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                      Used to love college sports but NIL and all this movement of teams to new conferences has turned me off.

                                                      Things have shifted from the schools having all the power over the athletes to the athletes having all the power and can leave schools for any ridiculous reason...sad.
                                                      welcome to capitalism
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                                                      • bjb7223
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 11-03-12
                                                        • 10347

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by actiondan
                                                        looking forward to rutgers vs washington
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                                                        • Da Manster!
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 07-13-07
                                                          • 17720

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by texhooper
                                                          California to Maryland for fukks sake. Like 2Pac said they don’t give a fukk about us
                                                          Yes sir brother Tex!! Because nothing says bitter regional rivalry like USC from Los Angeles flying across the country in three different time zones to play my alma mater the Mighty Terps from the University of Maryland at College Park right on the outskirts of Baltimore and Washington DC!!...LMAO!
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                                                          • texhooper
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-05-09
                                                            • 10001

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Da Manster!
                                                            Yes sir brother Tex!! Because nothing says bitter regional rivalry like USC from Los Angeles flying across the country in three different time zones to play my alma mater the Mighty Terps from the University of Maryland at College Park right on the outskirts of Baltimore and Washington DC!!...LMAO!
                                                            Can we add any European colleges while we’re at it?
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                                                            • Da Manster!
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 07-13-07
                                                              • 17720

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by texhooper
                                                              Can we add any European colleges while we’re at it?
                                                              My contacts over in London and Frankfurt are already on it!
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                                                              • GoCougs!
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 07-11-10
                                                                • 969

                                                                #32
                                                                Brutal for my squad. Wazzu is a great college town and has fun teams. Unless we find a lifeline we will lose some sports and won't be able to continue paying our coaches. ESPN + Fox, along with very bad leadership from the Pac-12, have ruined what was a great conference.
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                                                                • texhooper
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                                  • 10001

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I’m hurting for Wazzu my guy. I never thought I would say this but I’m seriously hoping they can join the Big 12 or something. Definitely don’t deserve to get totally left out of this bullshit realignment, and is a big inspiration for my posts here
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                                                                  • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                                    • 03-11-11
                                                                    • 29211

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by texhooper
                                                                    Byeshea great post. College football from whence you speak was basically the soccer model, and as regular seasons and playoffs expand in every single sport I’ve started to yearn for such days myself. You keep adding games, adding games, adding playoff slots, and eventually you’ve slowly diluted the product. And now conferences are so big that half the conference games are gonna feel like non conference games. To stick with your example, you’re seriously gonna ask kids who are supposed to be “students” to fly three goddamn time zones to play a conference game??? A game that’s gonna really matter in regards to whether or not they play for a conference title and earn a playoff spot??? The charade is totally on display at this point. It’s not about the kids or “students” it’s about these fukking assholes lining their pockets. And Jake Peavy that’s why I’m pro-NIL and transfer portal. If within this multi-billion dollar business, schools and conferences and coaches are gonna do whatever the fukk they want, then the players should have every opportunity to maximize their own situation. It’s not ideal but that’s the world that’s been created with college athletics having lost any semblance of being an amateur league.

                                                                    Like I said earlier we’re all still gonna be here watching and paying attention and betting regardless but this is just getting to be a lot. Washington to New Jersey. Oregon to Pennsylvania. California to Maryland for fukks sake. Like 2Pac said they don’t give a fukk about us
                                                                    I get it, doesn't mean I have to like it.

                                                                    They should've given college athletes a reasonable monthly stipend a long time ago.
                                                                    Originally posted by bjb7223
                                                                    welcome to capitalism
                                                                    Yes sir but it has ruined college sports in my view.
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                                                                    • Eddy Munny
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                                                                      • 08-13-13
                                                                      • 15739

                                                                      #35
                                                                      The transfer portal being flung wide open was the beginning of the end for college football purists. There really doesn't exist any allegiance to a school or region anymore, it's only about money and visibility for players so why should conferences be any different? Everyone's just grabbing anything they can get their hands on right now that they believe might improve their brand.
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