Fade KC while Chris Jones is out?

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  • raiders72001
    Senior Member
    • 08-10-05
    • 11014

    #1
    Fade KC while Chris Jones is out?
    TJ Watt is by far the most important man on defense to his team, 1-10 without https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/ste...hout-t.j.-watt but Jones means a lot too.

    In 2022, you could argue that no defensive player meant more to the overall success of a defense than Chris Jones and the Chiefs. You can count the individual stats if you want: first in pressure rate among defensive tackles, first in snaps played, first in ESPN’s pass rush win rate, first in wins vs double teams and first sacks created vs double teams. He’s very good in his own right. What makes this even more important is that Chris Jones makes literally everyone on the defense better with his presence on the field. This table is from Sports Information Solutions On/Off reports:Chris Jones is Good

    With Chris Jones -0.08 -0.14 -0.05 36.40%
    Without Chris Jones 0.05 0.07 0.05 32%


    Yeah, this isn’t complicated. The Chiefs defense is great with Chris Jones on the field. Without Jones on the field, the Chiefs defense is very bad.
  • stevenash
    Moderator
    • 01-17-11
    • 65149

    #2
    ^
    Good intel there.

    I'd love to see Detroit knock KC off, the question is just how bad is St. Brown's ankle, if he's not good to go and with Williams on the suspension list, Marvin Jones becomes the WR1 by default, then the rookie Reynolds.
    Looking forward to seeing this Gibbs kid in the backfield.
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    • Headsterx
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-03-16
      • 22382

      #3
      I’ll take the pts with Lions put definitely not outright win against Chiefs on prime time.
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      • Thefix13
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 05-14-21
        • 664

        #4
        If anything take the over
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        • GunShard
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 03-05-10
          • 10026

          #5
          Originally posted by raiders72001
          TJ Watt is by far the most important man on defense to his team, 1-10 without https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/ste...hout-t.j.-watt but Jones means a lot too.
          That stat doesn't effect Chiefs that much than TJ Watt. Chiefs without Chris Jones are 4-3.


          Lions suspension losing 3 wide receivers and 1 safety due to gambling has a bigger impact.
          The NFL is suspending five players, including four from the Detroit Lions, for violating the league's gambling policy, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported on Friday.
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          • raiders72001
            Senior Member
            • 08-10-05
            • 11014

            #6
            Originally posted by GunShard
            That stat doesn't effect Chiefs that much than TJ Watt. Chiefs without Chris Jones are 4-3.


            Lions suspension losing 3 wide receivers and 1 safety due to gambling has a bigger impact.
            https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-suspend...ambling-policy
            C.J. Moore started 0 games in 2022
            Wilson started 0 games in 2022
            Cephus started 1 game in 2022
            Berryhill started 0 games in 2022
            Toney started 0 games in 2022

            Chris Jones was one of the top 3 best defensive tacles in the NFL in 2022.
            Last edited by raiders72001; 09-01-23, 04:51 PM.
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            • stevenash
              Moderator
              • 01-17-11
              • 65149

              #7
              Kelce says Jones is the best defensive player in the NFL today.
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              • raiders72001
                Senior Member
                • 08-10-05
                • 11014

                #8
                Originally posted by stevenash
                Kelce says Jones is the best defensive player in the NFL today.
                I agree.
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                • Eddy Munny
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 08-13-13
                  • 15739

                  #9
                  Is he expected to miss games?
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                  • raiders72001
                    Senior Member
                    • 08-10-05
                    • 11014

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                    Is he expected to miss games?
                    Holding out right now.
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                    • Eddy Munny
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 08-13-13
                      • 15739

                      #11
                      Originally posted by raiders72001
                      Holding out right now.
                      I have Chargers to win the division so I'm okay with him holding out. Get that bag, Chris... You deserve it!
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                      • raiders72001
                        Senior Member
                        • 08-10-05
                        • 11014

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                        I have Chargers to win the division so I'm okay with him holding out. Get that bag, Chris... You deserve it!
                        I'm agreeing with a lot of you guys. Also took Chargers.
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                        • lakerboy
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 04-02-09
                          • 94363

                          #13
                          Chiefs schedule looks difficult this season
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