Indianapolis Colts +8

**raiders72001** · 09-26-23, 08:57 PM

You have to look at more than stats to understand the game.

**raiders72001** · 09-26-23, 08:58 PM

Originally posted by asiagambler

Dobbins has been out since Week 1. What are you even trying to say here??

You were betting because Dobbins AND Hill were out? 2 starters right?

Dobbins is a starter. Why don't you understand that? It doesn't matter when he got hurt. 7 starters OUT includes Dobbins.

You don't change the line much on one player but you do on 7. Just think about it. 20 is a huge difference, 7 is a difference. 1 doesn't mean much.

**asiagambler** · 09-26-23, 09:01 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

again

You can post that article from some clueless no-name publication as many times as you want. The fact that you can't come up with your own original thought tells me everything I already knew anyway

Beckham deep threat lmao

Beckham is WR3 behind Flowers and Bateman and if we're being serious, Agholor has outplayed him too.

**asiagambler** · 09-26-23, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

Dobbins is a starter. Why don't you understand that? It doesn't matter when he got hurt. 7 starters OUT includes Dobbins.

So you're betting based on known injury information from Week 1 ?

**raiders72001** · 09-26-23, 09:04 PM

Originally posted by asiagambler

So you're betting based on known injury information from Week 1 ?

Of course. I'll explain it again. 1 injury doesn't mean much. But when more injuries occur in subsequent weeks, then it means something.

**asiagambler** · 09-26-23, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

Dobbins is a starter. Why don't you understand that? It doesn't matter when he got hurt. 7 starters OUT includes Dobbins.

You don't change the line much on one player but you do on 7. Just think about it. 20 is a huge difference, 7 is a difference. 1 doesn't mean much.

It depends on the 7!

You can't be this thick

WHO the players are matters. WHO the players replacing them matters. HOW LONG AGO the injury happened matters A LOT

If you're betting based on Week 1 injuries in Week 3 then you have bigger problems than not knowing the team's depth chart

**raiders72001** · 09-26-23, 09:05 PM

If 1 OL gets hurt in a week, I'll most likely ignore it. If 2 more get injured in subsequent weeks, then I'll definitely take note. Then you look at matchups.

**asiagambler** · 09-26-23, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

Of course. I'll explain it again. 1 injury doesn't mean much. But when more injuries occur in subsequent weeks, then it means something.

Ok so then what is the number for you? How many injuries does it have to be?

We know you don't pay attention to when the injuries happened or who got injured or who's replacing them but you do seem very focused on simply how many. So what's the magic number for you?

**asiagambler** · 09-26-23, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

If 1 OL gets hurt in a week, I'll most likely ignore it. If 2 more get injured in subsequent weeks, then I'll definitely take note. Then you look at matchups.

So 3 OL is the magic number for you?

Well this game was only 2 OL though

**raiders72001** · 09-26-23, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by asiagambler

Ok so then what is the number for you? How many injuries does it have to be?

We know you don't pay attention to when the injuries happened or who got injured or who's replacing them but you do seem very focused on simply how many. So what's the magic number for you?

There isn't a magic number. It's individual players and matchups. A practice squad OT coming in to block TJ Watt is a game changer.

**raiders72001** · 09-26-23, 09:12 PM

I don't know anyone that I gamble with that doesn't look at intangibles and injuries. You aren't going to out model books in huge markets.

**asiagambler** · 09-26-23, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

There isn't a magic number. It's individual players and matchups. A practice squad OT coming in to block TJ Watt is a game changer.

Yet you didn't know hardly any of the individual players or matchups here

**asiagambler** · 09-26-23, 09:16 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

I don't know anyone that I gamble with that doesn't look at intangibles and injuries. You aren't going to out model books in huge markets.

Part of looking at injuries is knowing who is injured and how long they've been injured and who is replacing them and how the replacements have done right?

You didn't do any of that here though. So I gave you some insights on those injuries but you couldn't actually carry a conversation because you didn't know much about either team

**asiagambler** · 09-26-23, 09:17 PM

Anyway, you should be looking hard at Baltimore at Cleveland right ?

5 more injured, damn so that's now 15 starters out (including IR)

**raiders72001** · 09-26-23, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by asiagambler

Yet you didn't know hardly any of the individual players or matchups here

Like I said, you're looking for gotcha moments. I knew the value of the matchup even if I mistakenly typed in the wrong name. You still don't realize what Beckham means to Bal.

**raiders72001** · 09-26-23, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by asiagambler

Anyway, you should be looking hard at Baltimore at Cleveland right ?

5 more injured, damn so that's now 15 starters out (including IR)

Yes! You're catching on.

**raiders72001** · 09-26-23, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by asiagambler

Part of looking at injuries is knowing who is injured and how long they've been injured and who is replacing them and how the replacements have done right?

You didn't do any of that here though. So I gave you some insights on those injuries but you couldn't actually carry a conversation because you didn't know much about either team

Pay for SIC. I get all that info. You had to edit your mistakes.

**raiders72001** · 09-26-23, 09:25 PM

When you click on a player, it tells you the injury, when he was injured and the backup.

**asiagambler** · 09-26-23, 09:26 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

Like I said, you're looking for gotcha moments. I knew the value of the matchup even if I mistakenly typed in the wrong name. You still don't realize what Beckham means to Bal.

Well you've been here long enough while I've posted to hopefully know that's not what I'm looking for. I gave you some insights at the beginning and offered my opinion as I sometimes do in threads where I feel like I may know something

You could have just taken it for what it was but YOU were the one that wanted to argue despite not knowing much about the subject at hand and you're the one that insists on doubling down on these terrible takes

**asiagambler** · 09-26-23, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

Pay for SIC. I get all that info. You had to edit your mistakes.

They weren't mistakes lmao

The big post I made that you quoted is still there.

They detail YOUR mistakes. You can't be this delusional lmao

Everything I said was correct, down to the wet conditions being your biggest ally. I edited everything because why carry on a conversation with this guy that doesn't get anything

**raiders72001** · 09-26-23, 09:28 PM

I clicked on Aaron Jones

**asiagambler** · 09-26-23, 09:29 PM

Seymour - your mistake
Stephens - your mistake
Mustipher - your mistake
Moon - your mistake

I even detailed all your mistakes. I didn't edit any mistakes.

**asiagambler** · 09-26-23, 09:30 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

I clicked on Aaron Jones

Well if this is your source for the Colts game, then I'd consider a different source considering how many things you had wrong initially

**raiders72001** · 09-26-23, 09:33 PM

Originally posted by asiagambler

Seymour - your mistake
Stephens - your mistake
Mustipher - your mistake
Moon - your mistake

I even detailed all your mistakes. I didn't edit any mistakes.

I didn't make a mistake with Moon and Mustipher. I told you that Mustipher is a bum from the Bears and Moon was playing in his first game off the practice squad. I hurriedly typed in two wrong names.

You wanted to discuss VROP for offensive linemen and don't even know how many snaps that Moon played.

**asiagambler** · 09-26-23, 09:33 PM

I mean I just went back to look at that post and you actually listed Tyus Bowser as one of the injuries lmao

He's been out since training camp

**asiagambler** · 09-26-23, 09:35 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

I didn't make a mistake with Moon and Mustipher. I told you that Mustipher is a bum from the Bears and Moon was playing in his first game off the practice squad. I hurriedly typed in two wrong names.

You wanted to discuss VROP for offensive linemen and don't even know how many snaps that Moon played.

No YOU made a mistake thinking Moon was starting

Moon was brought up for DEPTH

You kept going on and on and on and on about how Moon is a practice squad player so he can't do what a starter can.

Well obviously he CAN do what Oweh does because Oweh doesn't do anything. But that is your mistake because you thought Moon was starting. He was not.

This is another thing I've said minimum 100 times in this thread

**asiagambler** · 09-26-23, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

I didn't make a mistake with Moon and Mustipher. I told you that Mustipher is a bum from the Bears and Moon was playing in his first game off the practice squad. I hurriedly typed in two wrong names.

You wanted to discuss VROP for offensive linemen and don't even know how many snaps that Moon played.

Put it this way, if Ojabo doesn't get hurt, Moon barely plays

So in that regard, you got lucky because you get to think Moon was brought up to get serious snaps in this game

**asiagambler** · 09-26-23, 09:38 PM

And Mustipher is not a bum. You can say whatever you want about his time in Chicago but here in Baltimore, he has not played like a bum. He has filled in admirably and has allowed 0 pressures all year. That's not a bum

**raiders72001** · 09-26-23, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by asiagambler

Put it this way, if Ojabo doesn't get hurt, Moon barely plays

So in that regard, you got lucky because you get to think Moon was brought up to get serious snaps in this game

Mustipher is a bum. The Bears are one team that I do know all the names.

This is what you aren't understanding. Moon wouldn't have been on the field if not for injuries. Ojabo's injury wouldn't have put Moon on the field.

You keep making excuses instead of discussing the fact that backups blew the game.

**asiagambler** · 09-26-23, 09:45 PM

Anyway, this is boring now

I'm sure you'll be on the Browns -3 with 15 starters out (including IR) for Baltimore

I have no opinion on that as of yet, not that it wouldn't go completely over your head anyway

**raiders72001** · 09-26-23, 09:48 PM

On Bears

It's true, Mustipher was a weak spot on the offensive line,

https://ontapsportsnet.com/bears/sam...%20few%20years.

**asiagambler** · 09-26-23, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

Mustipher is a bum. The Bears are one team that I do know all the names.

This is what you aren't understanding. Moon wouldn't have been on the field if not for injuries. Ojabo's injury wouldn't have put Moon on the field.

You keep making excuses instead of discussing the fact that backups blew the game.

Mustipher wasn't even a bum in Chicago. He was made to look worse because Fields is the worst QB in NFL history at taking sacks. If you knew anything about the Bears you'd know this

And so what? Again for the 100th time, Moon is no difference from Oweh. You don't know them so why do you keep arguing this?

Backups made some mistakes sure. Starters made some mistakes too. Lamar, the most important starter made some big ones. These things happen. They didn't blow the game as much as you want to think so. They played more or less at the level of the players they were replacing. Already said this ad nauseum. You can't come up with anything new or original. Zero substance

**asiagambler** · 09-26-23, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

On Bearshttps://ontapsportsnet.com/bears/sam...%20few%20years.

Look up his PFF grade last year

**raiders72001** · 09-26-23, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by asiagambler

Anyway, this is boring now

I'm sure you'll be on the Browns -3 with 15 starters out (including IR) for Baltimore

I have no opinion on that as of yet, not that it wouldn't go completely over your head anyway

Part of your gambling problem is thinking -3 is a good bet when it opened lower. My Cleveland bet was already placed.

**raiders72001** · 09-26-23, 09:54 PM

Originally posted by asiagambler

Look up his PFF grade last year

Another problem of yours. You take PFF as gospel. Mustipher is a bum. You're wrong if you think anything else.