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You're just beyond delusional at this point
I didn't say ANYTHING about your bet
I told you exactly who was hurt, how long they've been hurt, who is replacing those players and how they've fared this season. I told you your biggest ally was the weather
Everything I said was correct
You evade 90% of the things I've said in this thread because you're just flat out wrong and clueless about it
The ONLY thing you got right was the bet itself
You're so mad I made you look like a fool that you're just making things up and posting articles from ebony bird as some kind of proof you're right
But at least you got the most important thing right I guess. Maybe that's small consolation to youComment -
Too funny. I knew you saw it too. Thanks for confirming. That really must have gotten to you too. Mission accomplishedComment -
Why would it get to me? You don't process things correctly. It's also why I don't reply to 90% of what you say. It's just plain wrong. It's also why you can't see that the backups lost the game.
I should have stopped replying when you said that a practice squad player is better than a starter. At least you deleted that one with a few other gems.Last edited by raiders72001; 09-27-23, 04:28 AM.Comment -
Raiders is a great poster. One of the best at SBR.
He helped put me on an ATS winner on the Colts last week. It was a great play. Colts were right there the whole way.
+8 Dog that played like they were equal to the Fav. And it's a play I wouldn't have been on otherwise.Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?Comment -
I personally think Raiders and Asia are assets to our community, they both bring plenty to the table, and I genuinely like both fellas.
i'm not going to step in and intervene, but why don't we just agree to disagree, and shake hands.
Thanks in advance.
Watch the video all, pay attention to the video, the video knows all.
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My point as posted many times is that injury value is exponential. Ignore most single injuries but increase value of each as they pile up. Imagine playing with 20 backups and ignoring it. History shows that healthy teams win and go the furthest. In the Balt game, injuries were the reason for the loss. The refs wouldn't have even come in to play with a healthy Balt team.Comment -
Of course it's also matchups and the player. Insane to ignore an injury to Tyreek Hill. The same with saying that injury squad players are better than starters.Last edited by raiders72001; 09-27-23, 05:37 PM.Comment -
Here's the practice squad guy that AG said was better than a starter. He was a non-factor all day other than blowing the game by not jumping on a fumble. LT didn't break a sweat blocking him. The hardest the LT worked was moving Moon off the line on running plays. 36 second mark one of them. On pass plays Moon didn't sniff the QB.
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I too don't mind a little fiery exchanges, God knows I've been in my fair share of them myself, and once again Manny you being the voice of reason and all nailed it, this spat is nowhere near the tipping point and yes it isn't egregious which is why I stood back, kept quiet, and let the two fine gents work it out themselves.
I really don't like to be heavy handed, unfortunately sometimes we are forced to.
For instance, if one constantly posts disruptive garbage in a drunken stupor, and ignore all warnings to please simmer down, then what are we to do?
I can name several other instances where we had no choice to be heavy handed, but there's no reason to rehash those incidents.
Yeah, you're correct, you knew, I knew, we all knew this was a nothing little spat.
Appreciate your input Manny, all good.Comment -
2:25 mark Moon didn't jump on the ball. I also ignore a lot of AG's statements. AG saying that I thought an edge rusher such as Moon was going to play on all snaps. It was obvious that wasn't my thought but I didn't want to spend time refuting everything. Seems he's a Balt homer and doesn't let the facts get in the way.Last edited by raiders72001; 09-27-23, 06:40 PM.Comment -
Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?Comment -
OK, thx, Raiders. Have a great week.Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?Comment -
Chucky - you're right about cluster injuries in football. AG wanted to use baseball stats since it's pitcher vs. batter and is easily quantifiable no matter how many injuries occur. It doesn't work that way for football.
Found this article that explains it better than I am.
Cluster InjuriesThere are times when it is prudent to bet on injuries. When there are multiple injuries to a specific position, (the secondary, offensive line, etc.) the value between the starter and the fourth or fifth replacement across multiple positions, may provide value over a point or two. In these unique situations, the market does not recognize how impactful these injuries are to the game and the point spread, which provides actionable value.
Bulk Injuries
Much like cluster injuries, bulk injuries are not accounted for in the point spread line. Bulk injuries are significant injuries across multiple positions on the same side of the ball. Individually, these players may not move the line at all, but collectively, they may provide a betting opportunity. When bulk injuries occur, several below replacement players may be forced into action, but even more than that, coaches have to spend more time and attention to these less talented players. Game plans and coverages may have to adjust to protect weaknesses. When there is one glaring problem, a coach can usually adjust the schemes to hide the inefficiencies. When there are multiple areas of concern, the task becomes much more daunting. When bulk injuries occur, the market place usually does not account for it. The knowledgeable sports bettor may have an opportunity to take advantage .Last edited by raiders72001; 09-27-23, 07:28 PM.Comment -
I'm really beginning to wonder about you
Moon was a non factor in a game he was never supposed to get many snaps in. Said this 100 times in this thread
You know who else is a non factor ?
Oweh. The guy Moon wasn't even supposed to replace
Said that 100 times in this thread too
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Are you braindead? Really?
I never said anything about injuries not mattering
Why do you keep saying 20 backups?
I know why. For effect because you know you got trashed in this thread over and over again and you're desperately trying to make your argument sound better
Injuries had very little to do with the loss. Lamar played terribly in the rain just as I said and turned the ball over too many times. Backups played as well as the players they were replacing. Said this many times and backed it up. All you do is post lazily written articles by no-name sites that back up your lazy reasoning
You're no different from johnnyvegas actually. No wonder chucky likes you lmaoComment -
Most people are like you and wait for the injury report. You want to get your info from Twitter, X, to beat the public. My bet was made assuming that they were playing. I would have liked it better if they weren't. The most important thing is to get the best line. Most are like you and just take closers in an efficient market.Comment -
You and the truth don't go hand in hand. You said the 7 injuries didn't matter because the backups were as good. Then I just let your nonsense go.
1. The Bears didn't want Mustifer. He then got cut by the Colts and picked up by Bal on waivers. He's lucky to still be in the NFL.
2. Drake was signed to the practice squad.
3. Moon was on the practice squad.
Those three is why they lost. The bad snap wasn't caused by the weather, it was a miscommunication. Drake lost a fumble and Moon whiffed picking up a fumble.
The practice squad backups that you claimed to be as good as the starters, one better than the starter, cost the game.Comment -
You're incredibly dense. When I say "Wednesday practice report," I mean "Wednesday practice information however that's disseminated in the quickest way possible"
But you look at injury information from months ago before the season even started so are you really the one to talk about that ? LOLComment -
Raider, your notes are fascinating. Like any market, there's a difference between:
*(Adjustment on the Market Line) vs (Adjustment in Fair Value).
I told you my basic thoughts:
1) So many Fantasy FB players view the RB/WR as a big loss. Sometimes, those players are not a big loss.
2) I am biased to the value of Offensive Linemen. I used to have success playing against depleted Off Lines. I think it's harder now. It's a hyper-competitive league, so some dropoffs are small.
3) Of course, there's value on the starting QB going out. If you listen to ANY post-game from a coach, they'll say the Backup didn't get many reps. If he's now starting, he improves timing via more reps in practice.Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?Comment
