What happen to the NE Patriots?

**bjb7223** · 10-08-23, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

This team really sucks. FADE! Getting smoked in every game now.

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Tom Brady is not walking through that door. The Mac Jones experiment is over.

**Da Manster!** · 10-08-23, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by bjb7223

Tom Brady is not walking through that door. The Mac Jones experiment is over.

**Eddy Munny** · 10-08-23, 03:11 PM

I had a little scratch on the game Over 39.

It's pretty sad when the road team puts up 34 points and I still can't cash an O39 ticket.

**BradytheK9** · 10-08-23, 03:13 PM

Mac n sack needs to stay in kitchen

**stevenash** · 10-08-23, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by Eddy Munny

I had a little scratch on the game Over 39.

It's pretty sad when the road team puts up 34 points and I still can't cash an O39 ticket.

What's equally sad is getting shutout at home.

**Da Manster!** · 10-08-23, 03:17 PM

Is it Bailey Zappe time?! I've got a strange feeling that he's in Belechick's doghouse for some reason or another. Zappe seemed to give the Pats a booster shot when he came in last year and actually played pretty well. But ole Bill is hell bent on sinking or swimming with Mac Jones.

**Thefix13** · 10-08-23, 03:41 PM

Borderline zero talent on offense. Mac is looking bad because he's forcing the issue a lot now. Even if they replace him the team has little hope on offense. Time to re-tool

**Eddy Munny** · 10-08-23, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

What's equally sad is getting shutout at home.

That's more or less the same thing.

**stevenash** · 10-08-23, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by Eddy Munny

That's more or less the same thing.

Pretty much.

**mjsuax13** · 10-08-23, 04:21 PM

At least the debate is over on Bill vs Brady.

**JIBBBY** · 10-08-23, 04:37 PM

What is surprising to me is the defense is horrific also. Forget about losing Tom Brady and all that talent on offense as this team is equally dog shit on both sides of the ball now.

Will begin to fade all season long when the Patriots play good teams!

**Ratpack** · 10-09-23, 07:15 AM

Just blindly bet patriots team total unders

**Getch13** · 10-09-23, 07:41 AM

**kingdom** · 10-09-23, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by Thefix13

Borderline zero talent on offense. Mac is looking bad because he's forcing the issue a lot now. Even if they replace him the team has little hope on offense. Time to re-tool

Or re-tire

**JAKEPEAVY21** · 10-09-23, 08:58 AM

What happened?

The roster has little to no talent. Belicheat should be relieved of his power when it comes to the draft and constructing the roster.

**DwightShrute** · 10-09-23, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by bjb7223

Tom Brady is not walking through that door. The Mac Jones experiment is over.

without Brady, Belichick is 72-79 with 2 payoff games and 1 playoff win as a HC.

**OldBill** · 10-09-23, 12:50 PM

just hit record books in history of nfl worst home loss by a veteran HC in season

and the saints are NOT a GOOD team

week 1 - 3 vs Titans blown cover won by 1 point week 2 -3 @ Car PUSH wk 3 +1.5 at GB covered lost by 1 point wk 4 home chalk -3.5 vs rival BUCS season over s/u lost 26-9

**johnnyvegas13** · 10-09-23, 05:58 PM

Is there any trend after week bully chuck scores 0 prs

**stevenash** · 10-09-23, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

without Brady, Belichick is 72-79 with 2 payoff games and 1 playoff win as a HC.

And they couldn't run Bill out of Cleveland fast enough either, Parcells rescued his career.

**JIBBBY** · 10-09-23, 06:56 PM

Bill is like Tom Landry now IMO. Game has passed him by and gonna get fired..

Players don't respect him anymore and Billy is an old man now just going thru the motions. His system doesn't work anymore.

**Enkhbat** · 10-10-23, 10:13 AM

Yeah good idea JIBBY, definitely fade them until they get their shit together.

**Str8Mush4Life** · 10-10-23, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by stevenash

And they couldn't run Bill out of Cleveland fast enough either, Parcells rescued his career.

Revived maybe..

He was with Parcells long before he was with Cleveland and back with Parcells after with NE and the Jets Jets Jets. Belichick was always a brilliant defensive mind and Parcells knew it.

I think he's just too old school now for today's athlete and his time is up in NE. Just like Big Red's time was up in Philadelphia after 14 years.

**Da Manster!** · 10-10-23, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by Str8Mush4Life

Revived maybe..

He was with Parcells long before he was with Cleveland and back with Parcells after with NE and the Jets Jets Jets. Belichick was always a brilliant defensive mind and Parcells knew it.

I think he's just too old school now for today's athlete and his time is up in NE. Just like Big Red's time was up in Philadelphia after 14 years.

I was just about to bring up Andy Reid! Same exact scenario and same comments and insults from everyone alike. Reid is washed up, the game has passed him by, blah, blah, blah...but I would say Andy Reid rebounded rather nicely wouldn't you? Ditto for BB...He needs a change a scenery and a breath of fresh air. As a diehard skins fan, here is what I'm hoping and dreaming (a punchers chance that it might happen...I'm being very optimistic mind you)...Ron Riviera gets shitcanned this year after another failure. BB is not retained by the Pats. Our new ownership group led by Josh Harris lures BB to DC and makes him an offer he can't refuse! BB was born and raised in Annapolis, Maryland! (only 30 - 35 minutes from DC)...My neck of the woods for the last 35+ years before moving to Cyprus. and then hopefully having some humility and dignity left, reaches out to Tom Brady and apologizes for all of the diva drama bullshit that happened the last couple of years in New England. and Josh Harris gives Brady a contract he can't turn down laced with lucrative incentives and bonuses! and the Redskins next season get the dynamic duo back together again for one last ride into the sunset!

**Da Manster!** · 10-10-23, 12:19 PM

Speaking of which, since we are on the topic and to kind of piggyback off my last post, any chance at all that BB reaches out to Tom Brady and apologizes profusely to him for all of the crap, and begs him to sign and play for the Pats this season? (I'm assuming Brady has been working out and is still in good shape). Brady sure as hell can't do any worse than Mac Jones! and he knows BB's system inside and out. BB would definitely have to eat a big slice of humble pie and admit he was wrong (I'm not sure if his over-inflated ego would allow that) but the very thought did occur to me. Fat chance I know but I'm more/less just shooting the shit with my fellow SBR brethren right now.

**JAKEPEAVY21** · 10-10-23, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by Da Manster!

Speaking of which, since we are on the topic and to kind of piggyback off my last post, any chance at all that BB reaches out to Tom Brady and apologizes profusely to him for all of the crap, and begs him to sign and play for the Pats this season? (I'm assuming Brady has been working out and is still in good shape). Brady sure as hell can't do any worse than Mac Jones! and he knows BB's system inside and out. BB would definitely have to eat a big slice of humble pie and admit he was wrong (I'm not sure if his over-inflated ego would allow that) but the very thought did occur to me. Fat chance I know but I'm more/less just shooting the shit with my fellow SBR brethren right now.

BB might ask but why on Earth would Brady come back to play on this team? No playmakers on offense at all.

He is done playing.

**stevenash** · 10-10-23, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21

BB might ask but why on Earth would Brady come back to play on this team? No playmakers on offense at all.

He is done playing.

I think so too.
He has zero reasons to continue his career.
His legacy is cemented.

**lakerboy** · 10-10-23, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

And they couldn't run Bill out of Cleveland fast enough either, Parcells rescued his career.

Interesting take. Parcells was overrated as well. He took advantage of a great d ran by Billy. He couldn't win in ne , Jets or Dallas. He had three great wins.

That NFC championship 15-13 Matt Bahr game.

The oj Anderson run the ball and hope Norwood misses a fg Superbowl.

The 49-0 rout of the Niners in the Meadowlands.

**stevenash** · 10-10-23, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Interesting take. Parcells was overrated as well. He took advantage of a great d ran by Billy. He couldn't win in ne , Jets or Dallas. He had three great wins.

That NFC championship 15-13 Matt Bahr game.

The oj Anderson run the ball and hope Norwood misses a fg Superbowl.

The 49-0 rout of the Niners in the Meadowlands.

Three more than most HC's.

He hired BB to help him with the defense.
Parcells knew BB is a defensive specialist.

Remember now Parcells was HC and performing most of the GM duties during the LT era, there was a lot on his plate.

Parcells pretty much told Belichick when planning for the Bills before the Super Bowl "this is what I want to do, play keep away from Jim Kelly and chew up clock, you come up with a defensive scheme"
(paraphrasing there)

Belichick will go down as one of the games greatest defensive minds, but on offense, he's average.

**Da Manster!** · 10-10-23, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21

BB might ask but why on Earth would Brady come back to play on this team? No playmakers on offense at all.

He is done playing.

I totally get and understand that, Jake. but it doesn't hurt to ask, right? and also most great and gifted athletes like Brady have that competitive fire, itch, and desire to win. it's what separates them from the rest of the crowd. it's the very reason why he has 7 rings on his fingers. I mean what's the worst that can happen? he says no and we all move along...no harm, no foul.

**asiagambler** · 10-10-23, 03:29 PM

NE OL might be worse than the Giants'

**JIBBBY** · 10-10-23, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by asiagambler

NE OL might be worse than the Giants'

That would be a good match up.. LOL..

**BradytheK9** · 10-19-23, 06:08 PM

New offense with OB (Bill O’Brien) returning to New England as OC this season.
I thought there would be somewhat of a slow start with offense and slack Mac Jones but never imagined it would look this bad at this point in the season. I still think it may turn out to be decent season for Ezekiel Elliott might as was my prediction prior to season but for now it’s best not to have any Pats on your fantasy team as you likely figured out by now. Unless we see change at QB sooner rather than later!

**SomeDayinBuffalo** · 10-20-23, 11:38 AM

Just another old coach that can't change with the times.

**stevenash** · 10-20-23, 12:28 PM

The game has passed BB by.
He's a defensive fossil in a QB league now.