Why the line going down so much in Kansas city

**DJK** · 11-03-23, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by chen

They are playing in Germany?

At DK, it went from KC -1 to -2, so it didn't drop there.

Playing in Frankfurt, Germany.

**hehfest** · 11-03-23, 06:31 PM

Only thing I can think of is Taylor Swift is not making the trip - ROFLMFAO - LINE MOVEMENT GUARANTEED

**JIBBBY** · 11-03-23, 10:54 PM

Travis Kelce sprained his junk banging Swifty. GTD!

**raiders72001** · 11-05-23, 12:03 AM

Opened KC -2.5 -120 on 10/24 BOL. Went as high as 3.

Miami

C- ? but should play
LT - ? but should play
LG - OUT
RG - OUT

Although I don't know how the wind plays in Frankfurt, wind may or may not come into play with it being a retractable roof.
15 MPH
May rain
Tua accurate but has a weak arm.

Seems all this screams take KC but I haven't pulled the trigger yet. I'm big on intangibles and would like to see if and how hard it's raining along with wind strength game time if the roof is open. Chris Jones with good footing will dominate a banged up Miami OL under a retractable roof.

**Unwritten Law** · 11-05-23, 03:36 AM

KC big

**raiders72001** · 11-05-23, 04:54 AM

Took KC. Weather forecast now looks like showers and 19 MPH with gusts but it's a retractable roof. Not sure if they keep it open or how the wind plays there. May close so they don't tear it up more and want scoring.

Deutsche Bank Park received a new surface ahead of the NFL Week 9 game between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Miami Dolphins. The soccer stadium's field changed from 100% natural grass to a hybrid surface to accommodate the football game.
According to media reports, most European soccer stadiums use some form of a hybrid surface. While the systems may vary, fields are typically composed of 90% natural grass with synthetic fibers woven into them for reinforcement.

https://www.marca.com/en/nfl/2023/10...e5b8b4595.html

The players and coaches' opinions

While the NFL didn't state that as the reason behind the surface change in Frankfurt, it did acknowledge that players and coaches had complained about the slippery condition of Allianz Arena's surface after last year's match between the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Seattle Seahawks.
Seahawks' Bruce Irvin complained about playing on a "terrible" field after a 10-hour flight. Seattle head coach Pete Carroll was quoted as saying that he wished the pitch "was firmer."
On his part, Buccaneers head coach Todd Bowles said that the grass was "really slippery and short."

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 11-05-23, 07:21 AM

Originally posted by raiders72001

Opened KC -2.5 -120 on 10/24 BOL. Went as high as 3.

Miami

C- ? but should play
LT - ? but should play
LG - OUT
RG - OUT

Although I don't know how the wind plays in Frankfurt, wind may or may not come into play with it being a retractable roof.
15 MPH
May rain
Tua accurate but has a weak arm.

Seems all this screams take KC but I haven't pulled the trigger yet. I'm big on intangibles and would like to see if and how hard it's raining along with wind strength game time if the roof is open. Chris Jones with good footing will dominate a banged up Miami OL under a retractable roof.

Raider, I like your logic. Add in: RB Achane - still out.
...Achane's absence is huge for me. Go back to the game vs DEN.
...Miami already had team-speed. With Achane on the field, the matchups were just unfair.

The Chef line is short b/c of the poor showing in Denver. Mahomes apparently really was under the weather. That's one game, the reduced line should be closer to -3 (imho).

**Optional** · 11-05-23, 07:57 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The retractable roof at Deutsche Bank Park in Frankfurt, Germany is expected to be closed for Sunday morning’s Dolphins-Chiefs game. But that doesn’t mean it will feel like an indoor game. The sides are open all around the venue.</p>— David Furones (@DavidFurones_) <a href="https://twitter.com/DavidFurones_/status/1720925275649651140?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >November 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

**Optional** · 11-05-23, 08:00 AM

Looks pretty indoor like to me

**lakerboy** · 11-05-23, 08:13 AM

Mia Is a fraud until proven otherwise.

**JAKEPEAVY21** · 11-05-23, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Mia Is a fraud until proven otherwise.

Agreed. They are the type of team that beats up on inferior teams but have been punched in the mouth when facing upper tier opponents.

**Renegades** · 11-05-23, 08:52 AM

Why is the total so high? KC has a very good defense. Offense is ok. Miami doesnt score a lot vs good teams.

**3PtShooter** · 11-05-23, 09:10 AM

Miami speed speed speed

**tonyrt** · 11-05-23, 09:13 AM

So far the international games, each of the winning teams have arrived to the destination country days earlier than the losing teams. Miami has been in Germany since Monday and Chiefs just arrived on Friday.

**Renegades** · 11-05-23, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by 3PtShooter

Miami speed speed speed

How did their offense do vs buff and phily? 20 pts and 17 pts

**Optional** · 11-05-23, 09:18 AM

Dolphins players will be full of schnitzel, sauerkraut and bratwurst after being in Germany all week.

**blackHIPPY** · 11-05-23, 09:27 AM

Dolphins are now 1 pt favorites

**johnnyvegas13** · 11-05-23, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by blackHIPPY

Dolphins are now 1 pt favorites

I saw that as well

late pump fake by the books

**Renegades** · 11-05-23, 10:31 AM

Miami is a fraud. I wouldnt trust them vs anyone in the playoffs

**texhooper** · 11-05-23, 10:41 AM

This game started off like a volcanic eruption and has evolved into a penis caress-a-thon

KC will win also

**jose21_us** · 11-05-23, 10:48 AM

This game is fuken over.... Dolphins shitting the bed like they do every year...

**Eddy Munny** · 11-05-23, 12:45 PM

Dolphins were right there at the end despite the 21-0 hole. The entire game swung on that fluke to end the first half.

These two teams are not far apart. Basically a coin flip.

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 11-05-23, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

Opened KC -2.5 -120 on 10/24 BOL. Went as high as 3.

Miami

C- ? but should play
LT - ? but should play
LG - OUT
RG - OUT

Although I don't know how the wind plays in Frankfurt, wind may or may not come into play with it being a retractable roof.
15 MPH
May rain
Tua accurate but has a weak arm.

Seems all this screams take KC but I haven't pulled the trigger yet. I'm big on intangibles and would like to see if and how hard it's raining along with wind strength game time if the roof is open. Chris Jones with good footing will dominate a banged up Miami OL under a retractable roof.

Raiders, a few things. Chefs were obviously the right side here:

1) You're very good on the injuries. If the MIA Offensive starters return, look for MIA production to return to early-season form.

2) The other key variable for MIA = the late-season Temperature. This loss doesn't knock them out of the playoffs. Main implication is that a playoff rematch likely takes place in Arrowhead, which is much harder.

**raiders72001** · 11-05-23, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat

Raiders, a few things. Chefs were obviously the right side here:

1) You're very good on the injuries. If the MIA Offensive starters return, look for MIA production to return to early-season form.

2) The other key variable for MIA = the late-season Temperature. This loss doesn't knock them out of the playoffs. Main implication is that a playoff rematch likely takes place in Arrowhead, which is much harder.

Good assessment. Mia hasn't been that good traveling to other teams stadiums. I can't see them winning in Buf or KC if they travel.