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  • Mac4Lyfe
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    • 01-04-09
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    #36
    Originally posted by stevenash
    It'll be the Allen and Mitchell show tonight.
    Great call Nasher. Mitchell dropped 32, 8 and 6. Allen had 24 and 14. Cavs defense stepped it up in that 2nd half. They now have held the Bucks to 2 out of their 3 lowest games of the season.

    They still will have to figure out what to do when Garland and Mobley come back. I think they both should come off the bench. The Cavs look better without them.
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    • Mac4Lyfe
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      • 01-04-09
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      #37
      Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
      But still struggled with the Spurs. Anthony Towns had like 48 in the first half and dropped 62 points and they LOST. Usually when you get guys scoring these huge numbers, the team may struggle because everyone else is standing around and watching.
      Booker scored 62 tonight and the Suns lost. Luka did score 70+ and the Mavs won, so there's that but like I said, most of the time when a guy goes off the rest of the team just stands around and they probably only win half the time. Give me ball movement and people movement any day.
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      • stevenash
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        • 01-17-11
        • 65152

        #38
        Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
        Great call Nasher. Mitchell dropped 32, 8 and 6. Allen had 24 and 14. Cavs defense stepped it up in that 2nd half. They now have held the Bucks to 2 out of their 3 lowest games of the season.

        They still will have to figure out what to do when Garland and Mobley come back. I think they both should come off the bench. The Cavs look better without them.
        Cavs need Mobley more than they need Garland, guards like him are easy to replace.
        You need two bigs to compete these days, Allen and Mosely belong together.
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        • Mac4Lyfe
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          • 01-04-09
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          #39
          Originally posted by stevenash
          Cavs need Mobley more than they need Garland, guards like him are easy to replace.
          You need two bigs to compete these days, Allen and Mosely belong together.
          But Mobley and Allen can't shoot 3s so they end up clogging the lane. You can't have both of them in the game at the same time. Spread the floor with shooters and use either Allen or Mobley. You don't need to replace Garland, use him as a shooter too. The Cavs really should move Mobley for a scoring 4. You put a guy like Mikal Bridges on the Cavs and they become a title contender IMO.
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          • Mac4Lyfe
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            • 01-04-09
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            #40
            Cavs have won 10 of their last 11, including 2 wins over the Bucks and a nice win tonight over the Clippers. They are covering fools right now. Come get you some.
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            • Goat Milk
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              • 03-24-10
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              #41
              Cavs will never be a threat to win it all as long as D Mitch is the number 1 option. He's the third option on a championship team. Guy always thought he was D Wade but can never sniff anything close to that level. He is what he is now and will never improve from this version of himself.
              Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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              • Mac4Lyfe
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                • 01-04-09
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                #42
                Goatie - Mitchell is finally getting it. He knows he has to distribute the rock. He's putting up double digit assists per game and dishing dimes like Lebron. The entire team is getting buckets. Most nights they have 6 or 7 guys into double digits.
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                • stevenash
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                  • 01-17-11
                  • 65152

                  #43
                  I'm reading where J Allen has been sick, he's a GTD.
                  They can beat Detroit without him though.
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                  • homie1975
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                    • 12-24-13
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                    #44
                    Knickerbockers also 9-1 the last 10.

                    they a problem, too, playah
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                    • Git Lo
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                      • 02-20-11
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                      #45
                      I thought they would beat the knicks last year and you saw how that went. What changed since for the cavs?
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                      • Mac4Lyfe
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                        • 01-04-09
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by Git Lo
                        I thought they would beat the knicks last year and you saw how that went. What changed since for the cavs?
                        The Knicks are a tough matchup for the Cavs. I think the biggest issues were the bench last year and Allen playing like a complete pussy. Allen got reamed in the offseason and has put on a toughness that you've never seen before. He's actually outplayed Jokic, Embiid and Giannis in matchups against them this season. He won't get punked like last season. Mitchell is setting all time career highs in assists. Mitchell just made player of the month. The East is loaded. It won't be easy but the Cavs have a lot of great pieces in place. The head coach is an issue too though. lol
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                        • Mac4Lyfe
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                          • 01-04-09
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                          #47
                          I think the Cavs was -12.5 vs the Grizzlies yesterday. That line plummeted to -6. Mobley is out but I think that helps the Cavs. Cavs are on a back to back, so not sure I'd play them tonight although I kinda like them -2.5 in the first quarter.
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                          • Git Lo
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                            • 02-20-11
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                            The Knicks are a tough matchup for the Cavs. I think the biggest issues were the bench last year and Allen playing like a complete pussy. Allen got reamed in the offseason and has put on a toughness that you've never seen before. He's actually outplayed Jokic, Embiid and Giannis in matchups against them this season. He won't get punked like last season. Mitchell is setting all time career highs in assists. Mitchell just made player of the month. The East is loaded. It won't be easy but the Cavs have a lot of great pieces in place. The head coach is an issue too though. lol
                            Assists up because Garland was out but hes finally back. Not sure Strus is that great of a player and bench is still kind of thin, idk. Knicks added Divienzo, OG, Precious with Josh Hart and Hartenstein off the bench but lost Quickley but a lot of players are playing better this year. We will see though, the seeding will play a bigger role for some teams than others.
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                            • asiagambler
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                              • 07-23-17
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                              #49
                              Knicks are better than the Cavs

                              They will trade Fournier for a 6th man/bench help before the deadline then watch out. They are a threat to win it all
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                              • stevenash
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                                • 01-17-11
                                • 65152

                                #50
                                Celtics last night were disgraceful.
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                                • Mac4Lyfe
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                                  • 01-04-09
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by asiagambler
                                  Knicks are better than the CavsThey will trade Fournier for a 6th man/bench help before the deadline then watch out. They are a threat to win it all
                                  The Knicks are a bad matchup for the Cavs but I think the Cavs can match Boston, Miami and Philly better. Basketball is a game of matchups. I thought the Cavs, Bickerstaff helped the Knicks by playing Mobley and Allen together. The Knicks didn't even guard them and packed the paint. Then he also had Okoro out there who made it even easier because they Knicks would not guard 3 players. This year, the Cavs have more shooters. You have to stick to Merrill, Strus and Niang. That's a huge difference. Plus now Okoro is no longer afraid to shoot and Wade can as well. The biggest issue is Garland and Mitchell. 2 guys that like to dribble the air out of the ball. Then Mobley and Allen. 2 guys that won't stretch the floor. If I was coach I'd have Mitchell and Allen in the first unit and have Garland and Mobley come off the bench.
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                                  • Mac4Lyfe
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                                    • 01-04-09
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by stevenash
                                    Celtics last night were disgraceful.
                                    I expected that. Lakers scrub players played above their heads while the Celtics thought they had an easy night when Lebron and AD said they were sitting. Then once they got into a dog fight, they couldn't ramp up the intensity. Smart move by Lebron. haha
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                                    • IBetYou
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                                      • 07-03-15
                                      • 8149

                                      #53
                                      These Celtics have that always the bridesmaid vibe... wondering about what might have been had Udoka not been a s ex pest pervert. Well i'll tell you they'd be 2nd best anyway! Tatum compares himself to Bryant. He is not that, and KP is certainly not Pau.
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                                      • IBetYou
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                                        • 07-03-15
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                                        #54
                                        Knicks are the real mover in the East -if you can't see that GL with basketball betting.
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                                        • IBetYou
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                                          • 07-03-15
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                                          #55
                                          Pacers too. Pacers/ Knicks would be interesting.
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                                          • homie1975
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                                            • 12-24-13
                                            • 15442

                                            #56
                                            Macker
                                            i root for the Cavs, but they are the Cavs and they are from Cleveland.

                                            w/ LeBron, fuggedaboutit
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                                            • Mac4Lyfe
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                                              • 01-04-09
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by homie1975
                                              Macker
                                              i root for the Cavs, but they are the Cavs and they are from Cleveland.
                                              w/ LeBron, fuggedaboutit
                                              Shhhhhhhh.... The Cavs are in 2nd place in the East. Just blew out the Kings. Gonna have to change the game lines because they are covering fools right now.
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                                              • Mac4Lyfe
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 01-04-09
                                                • 48315

                                                #58
                                                Cavs are 9-0 the last 9 games at home beating teams by an average of 19.4 points.
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                                                • JIBBBY
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 12-10-09
                                                  • 83691

                                                  #59
                                                  Cavs are balling right now.. They've won 6 straight games in a row.

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                                                  • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                    • 01-04-09
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                    Cavs are balling right now.. They've won 6 straight games in a row.

                                                    https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/sacrame...rs-2024020505/
                                                    They've won 14 of the last 15 games.

                                                    Donovan Mitchell is +3000 right now for MVP. I recommend throwing something on that. Embiid is out of consideration because he can't play enough games. A few other guys may be out of the running as well. Jokic, Tatum might be favorites now BUT if the Cavs find some way to get the number 1 seed, how could you not vote for Spida? Right now, he's the most exciting player on a basketball court. If you haven't seen him, you are missing some incredible basketball.
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                                                    • homie1975
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                                                      • 12-24-13
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                                                      #61
                                                      the East is taking note.

                                                      what big moves will be made by Thursday?
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                                                      • bjb7223
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                                                        • 11-03-12
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by homie1975
                                                        the East is taking note.

                                                        what big moves will be made by Thursday?
                                                        I see Derozan being moved to a contender.
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                                                        • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                          • 01-04-09
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by homie1975
                                                          the East is taking note.what big moves will be made by Thursday?
                                                          I think the Cavs should stay pat. The Lakers and Knicks are both going after DeJounte Murray. If the Knicks get him (which from what I'm hearing is next to nothing in return), I think they become an immediate title contender.

                                                          The only thing holding the Cavs back is their youth. A lot of guys who have not been there, done that. Plus a coach who's never been there. Which is why I rather just play them in the regular season. The last 2 seasons they turned into dog shit right after the All Star Game. Mainly because guys got injured.
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                                                          • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                            • 01-04-09
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                                                            #64
                                                            Current MVP odds. I don't even see Mitchell??? I think whatever team ends up with the best record in the regular season, that star player will win it. Right now Jokic is favored but OKC, or NY, or the Clippers or the Cavs end up with the best record, I think it changes everything. I like Kawhi's odds +6,000. The Clippers are rolling right now, even though the Cavs beat them down. :-)
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                                                            • Mac4Lyfe
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-04-09
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                                                              #65
                                                              2023-24 MVP winner odds

                                                              Nikola Jokic Denver Nuggets C -155
                                                              Shai Gilgeous-Alexander Oklahoma City Thunder PG +230
                                                              Giannis Antetokounmpo Milwaukee Bucks PF +700
                                                              Luka Doncic Dallas Mavericks PG +1,200
                                                              Jalen Brunson New York Knicks PG +5,000
                                                              Jayson Tatum Boston Celtics SF +6,000
                                                              Kawhi Leonard Los Angeles Clippers SF +6,000
                                                              Kevin Durant Phoenix Suns SF +15,000
                                                              Devin Booker Phoenix Suns G +20,000
                                                              De'Aaron Fox Sacramento Kings PG +30,000
                                                              Anthony Edwards Minnesota Timberwolves SG +30,000
                                                              Tyrese Haliburton Indiana Pacers PG +30,000
                                                              Odds as of February 6, 2024.
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                                                              • Goat Milk
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                                                                • 03-24-10
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                                Goatie - Mitchell is finally getting it. He knows he has to distribute the rock. He's putting up double digit assists per game and dishing dimes like Lebron. The entire team is getting buckets. Most nights they have 6 or 7 guys into double digits.
                                                                whatever i say, you will rationalize it for any cavs player lol. cleveland's max is probably 1-2 playoff wins, if lucky.
                                                                Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                                • homie1975
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                                                                  • 12-24-13
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                                                  whatever i say, you will rationalize it for any cavs player lol. cleveland's max is probably 1-2 playoff wins, if lucky.
                                                                  Goater if they are in the top 4-5 seeds, then saying they will only win 1-2 playoff games is nonsense.

                                                                  Macker is anointing them.

                                                                  you are completely dismissing them.

                                                                  you are both wrong.
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                                                                  • Goat Milk
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by homie1975
                                                                    Goater if they are in the top 4-5 seeds, then saying they will only win 1-2 playoff games is nonsense.

                                                                    Macker is anointing them.

                                                                    you are completely dismissing them.

                                                                    you are both wrong.
                                                                    I meant playoff series' not wins.
                                                                    Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                                    • JIBBBY
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                                                                      • 12-10-09
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Tonight might be a good spot to take the Cavs. Wizards are a garbage team.


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                                                                      • stevenash
                                                                        Moderator
                                                                        • 01-17-11
                                                                        • 65152

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                                        2023-24 MVP winner odds

                                                                        Nikola Jokic Denver Nuggets C -155
                                                                        Shai Gilgeous-Alexander Oklahoma City Thunder PG +230
                                                                        Giannis Antetokounmpo Milwaukee Bucks PF +700
                                                                        Luka Doncic Dallas Mavericks PG +1,200
                                                                        Jalen Brunson New York Knicks PG +5,000
                                                                        Jayson Tatum Boston Celtics SF +6,000
                                                                        Kawhi Leonard Los Angeles Clippers SF +6,000
                                                                        Kevin Durant Phoenix Suns SF +15,000
                                                                        Devin Booker Phoenix Suns G +20,000
                                                                        De'Aaron Fox Sacramento Kings PG +30,000
                                                                        Anthony Edwards Minnesota Timberwolves SG +30,000
                                                                        Tyrese Haliburton Indiana Pacers PG +30,000
                                                                        Odds as of February 6, 2024.

                                                                        Without even mentioning Sabonis's name on this list makes this list a joke.
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