Ohio State Buckeyes might be an immortal deadbolt lock! +500

[ChuckyTheGoat]

If you buy into poster "OldBill" then his theory of the Marc Lawrence Cover Curse applies to the Buckeyes and Tide. Both are in the quad box on the 2024 cover.

Good stuff, Sundance. The Tide lost a ton of Secondary talent. Saban spent a lot of time on DBs, so that unit will be down.

[SomeDayinBuffalo]

Good stuff, Sundance. The Tide lost a ton of Secondary talent. Saban spent a lot of time on DBs, so that unit will be down.

That will be huge. LSU will love that with all the WR talent they always have.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

That will be huge. LSU will love that with all the WR talent they always have.

Been watching more of the preview videos. These SEC teams may have thought that the conglomeration was a good idea. The schedules are now like the NFL.

ALAB has a very tough schedule. The days of 12-0 or 11-1 are done.

[SundanceKid]

As of right now, it is highly possible that both Georgia v Texas happens twice and Oregon v Ohio State happens twice. Once in the regular season and once for the conference championship. Even if Ohio State and Georgia win both matchups I don't see either team's odds being much different on the day the playoffs from the current pre-season odds... Florida State and LSU would be decent pre-season odds. Notre Dame also, but since they can not be a top 4 seed they are then put at a disadvantage

[ChuckyTheGoat]

As of right now, it is highly possible that both Georgia v Texas happens twice and Oregon v Ohio State happens twice. Once in the regular season and once for the conference championship. Even if Ohio State and Georgia win both matchups I don't see either team's odds being much different on the day the playoffs from the current pre-season odds... Florida State and LSU would be decent pre-season odds. Notre Dame also, but since they can not be a top 4 seed they are then put at a disadvantage

I honestly think the Mega-conferences are insane. The basic idea of a CONFERENCE is to play the Round Robin:
*In Football, you used to play each team H2H.
*In Bask, you played each team Hm/Away.

Now, these Conferences are really leagues. You can't possibly play each team. And they aren't even setting up Regional pods.

Mark my words. One of these SEC teams is going to wind up 9-3 and lobby to get into the Final 12 b/c of Schedule Strength.

[SundanceKid]

The team you are referring to Chucky, I hope will be my Tennessee Volunteers.. Who for some reason play 4 straight SEC home games in October to first of November... I said many years ago when the European Super Leaugue tried to form that one day college football would do the same. Every Saturday would be a "playoff game." Have Bama vs USC, Michigan v Texas, Tennessee v Ohio State etc.. I do wonder will we get that eventually? I have heard that the Chancellors and Presidents will fight like hell to prevent trams like Vandy, Indiana, Northwestern from getting kicked out of the conference. Maybe one day, it is just straight each team for themselves. No conferences, no set rivals, just pure Greenbacks flowing in.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

The team you are referring to Chucky, I hope will be my Tennessee Volunteers.. Who for some reason play 4 straight SEC home games in October to first of November... I said many years ago when the European Super Leaugue tried to form that one day college football would do the same. Every Saturday would be a "playoff game." Have Bama vs USC, Michigan v Texas, Tennessee v Ohio State etc.. I do wonder will we get that eventually? I have heard that the Chancellors and Presidents will fight like hell to prevent trams like Vandy, Indiana, Northwestern from getting kicked out of the conference. Maybe one day, it is just straight each team for themselves. No conferences, no set rivals, just pure Greenbacks flowing in.

Salud, Sundance. Alab@TN is already being talked about as a key game. I'll be rooting for the Vols.

I've always thought that Football should have an ACADEMIC Conference similar to the Ivy League. And geography doesn't seem to matter anymore. What about NWern/Stanford/Duke/Vandy to form their own Conference?

[ChuckyTheGoat]

I like the 12-team format. Will list three longshots that have a decent chance to Make the Playoffs:
*Nebraska
*VA Tech
*USC

Some justification on these longshots:

1) NEB is getting a ton of talk in the pre-season. Andy Staples think they can be 7-0 heading into the game @OhioSt. Their early season schedule is manageable. If they start 7-0, that means they have a chance to get to 10 wins, which would likely put them in the Top 12.

2) VATech really has a chance to get to the ACC Title game. Who is going to represent the ACC this year? Not crazy to think it could be the Hokies.

3) USC is admittedly an outsider as of today. Purely based on pedigree, why would USC not merit a look at +500? They have the right game in the opener. Game against LSU. Win that one, and they'll be ranked in the top 12 to 18.

[GunShard]

I split multiple parlays with Georgia and Ohio State. Let's see if either of these teams win the championship.

[SundanceKid]

GunShard, still a good wager based on history. Historically the heavies do win in college ball. I am in the same boat as you only I have them tied to exact Super Bowl outcomes.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

GunShard, still a good wager based on history. Historically the heavies do win in college ball. I am in the same boat as you only I have them tied to exact Super Bowl outcomes.

I agree with this. It's very hard for an outsider to win the title. Klatt thinks the Champ will be one of the top four teams.

[SomeDayinBuffalo]

The SEC knows what they are doing. They know how to print money. With the playoff going to 12 for now. The SEC will prob get at lest 4 teams in. You can lose two and get in. Might be 3 if you lose the SEC Champion game. The BIG18 is going to be real top-heavy. They will still get 4 in.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

The SEC knows what they are doing. They know how to print money. With the playoff going to 12 for now. The SEC will prob get at lest 4 teams in. You can lose two and get in. Might be 3 if you lose the SEC Champion game. The BIG18 is going to be real top-heavy. They will still get 4 in.

Good note, Buff. I do wonder how this will play out. It really is more like an NFL schedule now.

Let's assume that the first eight teams look like No Brainers. There's going to be some healthy debate for those L4 slots.

Just like in NCAA Bask, there is debate over the metrics. To be clear, qualifying for Top 12 is not the same as the Gambling line. That's completely different.

I do think that it's a nice revision. In recent years, the pool of four seemingly came from six teams 90% of the time. I could pick my Four in August and be right on 3/4.
...The L6 will be very intriguing.
...I haven't seen so much optimism in the past from fringe teams like IA/WIS/NEB.
...This should be manna from Heaven for Penn St. If PennSt can't make it this year, Franklin should consider re-signing.

[SundanceKid]

The Penn State point is very well taken. These playoffs are going to give the have-nots a real chance at winning. However, it will also give the big dogs multiple cracks at it. Just think of Florida '09, Alabama '13, Georgia last year, Florida, Florida State, and Miami in the 90s and 00s. If they had 12 team playoffs in the prior years it would have given those teams another crack at it.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

The Penn State point is very well taken. These playoffs are going to give the have-nots a real chance at winning. However, it will also give the big dogs multiple cracks at it. Just think of Florida '09, Alabama '13, Georgia last year, Florida, Florida State, and Miami in the 90s and 00s. If they had 12 team playoffs in the prior years it would have given those teams another crack at it.

Ya, I'm good with that. Playoffs are another season.

In 1985 Gtown was > Villanova. But Villanova beat Gtown in the big game.

[SomeDayinBuffalo]

With the playoffs how they are now and the SEC and BIG18 having championship games still. We could have teams playing each other three times. I don't like that.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

With the playoffs how they are now and the SEC and BIG18 having championship games still. We could have teams playing each other three times. I don't like that.

True, Buff. There's always a twist on this stuff.

Conf Champ games lose some steam. It's a game for Automatic qualification. But there's also a chance that the losing team takes a loss that knocks them out of the L12.

[hawkwind]

MIGHT? NOT!!! Lame Post "NO CHANCE" DELUSIONAL

[freelee]

OSU is quietly recruiting a mega team. They are poaching the top players from many other top programs. They are freaking loaded with talent. Ryan Day is in a must win now mode. They opened up the coffers and buying players by the boat load.

Michigan and Bama both will take a hit without Harbaugh and Saban. It doesn't seem possible the Buckeyes don't make the playoffs and may be able to hedge a game.

$100 to win $500 or $1,000 to win $5,000 seems like a good bet, even though I don't like to hold my money up for so long.

Thanks for explaining what 5-1 odds are I had no idea what does a $5 bet win me?

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Line is down to +375 in some shops. I really like OSU because of their favorable schedule. They have relatively easy games before their 3 big games. That gives them time to rest up. Georgia's schedule is pretty ridiculous. They could easily lose a couple games with that schedule. I expect the SEC to beat up on each other and fade late in the playoffs. I don't expect SEC teams to go undefeated. OSU should have a great shot. They are all or nothing this season. They're taking no prisoners.

Mac, if you're holding a +500 ticket, I think you have great EV:

1) Go back to my Klatt comments. Buckeyes have built a Super Roster for THIS season.

2) I can't think of a better setup to erase recent short-comings. Only negative I can think of = loss of WR Harrison. He was so much of the Offense last year.

3) This has to be the season to eclipse MICH. I'll go ahead and say that the line for Mich @ OhioSt will be higher than normal. Those teams won't be on equal footing in late NOV.

[homie1975]

on paper Georgia and Oregon also look very very good, especially at the QB position.

is will howard a national title winning QB in a 12 team playoff? i don't know.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Thanks for explaining what 5-1 odds are I had no idea what does a $5 bet win me?

Haha, I don't even remember writing that. It does look pretty funny looking at it now. I think I was writing in my head what I was thinking. Should I throw $100 or $1000.

My Florida Gators have the most insane schedule I've ever seen. Has anyone seen a tougher schedule in the history of college football? They play a brutal SEC schedule and then have MIAMI, FLORIDA STATE AND UCF in OOC. I'm not sure the Gators will win 4 games.

[homie1975]

Haha, I don't even remember writing that. It does look pretty funny looking at it now. I think I was writing in my head what I was thinking. Should I throw $100 or $1000.

My Florida Gators have the most insane schedule I've ever seen. Has anyone seen a tougher schedule in the history of college football? They play a brutal SEC schedule and then have MIAMI, FLORIDA STATE AND UCF in OOC. I'm not sure the Gators will win 4 games.

EVERY schedule pretty much in the BIG TEN and the SEC this year is insanely tough due to the expansion.

Go look at some other SEC schedules and some of the B1G schedules.

They are crazy tough.

[Mac4Lyfe]

EVERY schedule pretty much in the BIG TEN and the SEC this year is insanely tough due to the expansion.

Go look at some other SEC schedules and some of the B1G schedules.

They are crazy tough.

I haven't seen any as hard as UF's. I agree most of these schools schedules are very tough because of the conferences. UGA's schedule is really tough. But I don't see any other team playing 3 OOC teams too like UF. That's ridiculous. Whoever scheduled that OOC should be fired.

[homie1975]

I haven't seen any as hard as UF's. I agree most of these schools schedules are very tough because of the conferences. UGA's schedule is really tough. But I don't see any other team playing 3 OOC teams too like UF. That's ridiculous. Whoever scheduled that OOC should be fired.

looks like others agree with you.

https://247sports.com/longformarticle/college-footballs-15-toughest-schedules-in-2024-ranked-225439838/#2347584

[SomeDayinBuffalo]

MIGHT? NOT!!! Lame Post "NO CHANCE" DELUSIONAL

What are you talking about?

[Mac4Lyfe]

OSUs Day is a subpar coach. They should have won this game. They can still get back in the playoff mix but you can’t fix poor coaching.

[bjb7223]

OSUs Day is a subpar coach. They should have won this game. They can still get back in the playoff mix but you can’t fix poor coaching.

Day is a modern day ( no pun intended) John Cooper. He will eventually be fired.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

OSUs Day is a subpar coach. They should have won this game. They can still get back in the playoff mix but you can’t fix poor coaching.

Mac, I agree with you. The Notre Dame HC bailed out Day last year by being even worse.

With this roster, OhioSt needs to be NCAA Semi-finalist (minimum). A few saving graces:
1) MICH is way down. OhioSt vs Mich looks like a mismatch this year.
2) Even w/ this loss @Oreg, OhioSt looks to be in good shape to make the CFP.

[mjsuax13]

OSUs Day is a subpar coach. They should have won this game. They can still get back in the playoff mix but you can’t fix poor coaching.

Yes he is. He inherited a Ferrari and has lost games with poor play calling and his own arrogance. The leash is short.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Yes he is. He inherited a Ferrari and has lost games with poor play calling and his own arrogance. The leash is short.

Yeah, if he blows another game and gets left out of the playoffs, it’s time to move on. They totally mismanaged the clock in the end.

[ThaTopMoron]

Oregon... sure bud, keep running we won't even get near you... he took the bait! wow! amazing!

Howard... uhhhhh.... I never learned to count to 6 guys my bad

coaching is suspect again on the Buckeyes. they won't ever win it with Day.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Struggling with the Cornhuskers. Day cannot be trusted…

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Struggling with the Cornhuskers. Day cannot be trusted…

They would have lost, if Raiola had any touch on his passes.

[Eddy Munny]

They would have lost, if Raiola had any touch on his passes.

Raiola missed a couple of throws, but overall the play calling for Nebraska was pretty lame.

The OC just loves throwing screens right into the teeth of the defense. Needed more creativity on that side of the ball, and maybe a trick play sprinkled in here and there. The defense did their job but the offense just didn't cash in their opportunities often enough.