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  • veriableodds
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-22-17
    • 5086

    #1
    500 plays +EV theory risking 100u
    -each play will be risk 0.2u each, regardless of wr% or payout
    -ending thread at 500 plays
    -will keep record wins-vs-losses, also units +/-
    -only value of 106% or higher considered (example below)
    -plays in nba, ncaab, nhl, mlb
    -start this 2/13
    example using lines from today(using model wr% from team rankings subscription)
    nhl
    az/44.7%wr+ the line(varies widely multiple factors ) +138 gives 106.38
    vegas/ 62%wr + the line -133(75%) = 108.5
    2 more examples for ncaab
    kansas/ 54.7%wr + line currently @ +150 =136.75
    southern u/73.4%wr + current line @ -180(56%) = 114.5
  • trytrytry
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-13-06
    • 23649

    #2
    so in simple terms you have 4 plays today 2 in nhl and 2 in ncaa hoops?
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    • veriableodds
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      • 08-22-17
      • 5086

      #3
      Originally posted by trytrytry
      so in simple terms you have 4 plays today 2 in nhl and 2 in ncaa hoops?
      Personally, I have 11 wagers today, including the above example games.. Not starting till 2/13 those are examples using today's lines to show perceived value.
      Last edited by veriableodds; 02-12-24, 01:44 PM.
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      • ChuckyTheGoat
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        • 04-04-11
        • 36654

        #4
        Good Luck, veri. I'll be watching.

        At one time I ate this Coll Bask for lunch. Knew it inside and out. The game has passed me by.

        Honestly, I hate the 3-pt line. When I think of coll Bask, I think about teams working the ball to big-men to get the high % shot.

        Sorry, I'm just reminiscing. GL on your plays.
        Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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        • veriableodds
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          • 08-22-17
          • 5086

          #5
          2/13
          ncaab
          Tennessee state/-2/-148

          nhl
          stl/+180
          lak/bff/O6/-115

          nba
          mia/mlw/O222/-106
          mnn/ptl/O214.5/-106
          5 plays for 1u risk(0.2u-each)
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          • ChuckyTheGoat
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            • 04-04-11
            • 36654

            #6
            Is Tenn St a spread play? Or a Moneyline play?
            Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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            • veriableodds
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              • 08-22-17
              • 5086

              #7
              Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
              Is Tenn St a spread play? Or a Moneyline play?
              -2 is an alt line readily available, I think. Current ml is -177, posted ats is -4
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              • veriableodds
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                • 08-22-17
                • 5086

                #8
                example here again from today's posted plays on how the value is seen
                nba
                mia/mlw-Model prediction spits 233 for total. Current line is 222. So thats 11 points. Math comes out to a 55% of going over.
                wr%=55%+payout/-106(94%) =106.7

                nhl
                stl/ wr%39.7%+payout of @+180 =111.1
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                • veriableodds
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                  • 08-22-17
                  • 5086

                  #9
                  Originally posted by veriableodds
                  2/13
                  ncaab
                  Tennessee state/-2/-148

                  nhl
                  stl/+180
                  lak/bff/O6/-115

                  nba
                  mia/mlw/O222/-106
                  mnn/ptl/O214.5/-106
                  5 plays for 1u risk(0.2u-each)

                  2-3/ -0.23u / tp count=5

                  2/14-all money lines
                  cbb
                  xavier/+125
                  iupui/+190
                  n Kentucky/+150
                  ga tech/+150
                  s Illinois/+140
                  saint joseph's/+150
                  fresno state//+175
                  s carolina/auburn/O137.5/-110
                  ---nba
                  nyn/+140
                  mia/+150
                  lal/+185
                  nyn/orl/O211.5/-110
                  ---nhl
                  az/+108
                  13 plays risk 2.6u (0.2u-each)
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                  • veriableodds
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                    • 08-22-17
                    • 5086

                    #10
                    5-8/ -0.27u / tp count=18
                    ytd/ 7-11/ -0.50u

                    2/15
                    --cbb
                    tarleton state/+185
                    utah/+115
                    w ill/tnn tech/O126.5/-110
                    --nba
                    mnn/ptl/O214/-110
                    --nhl
                    bff/+137
                    stl/+170
                    *alt line* phi/tor/O5.5/-138
                    7 plays risk 1.4u (0.2u-each)
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                    • veriableodds
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                      • 08-22-17
                      • 5086

                      #11
                      4-3/ +0.43u / tp count=25
                      ytd/ 11-14/ -0.07u


                      2/16
                      --cbb
                      vcu/-185
                      1 play risk 0.2u
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                      • veriableodds
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                        • 08-22-17
                        • 5086

                        #12
                        1-0/ +0.11/ tp count=26
                        ytd/ 12-14/ +0.04

                        --cbb
                        *alt line* vermont/2.5/-137
                        *alt line* ga state/-2.5/+121
                        albany/umbc/U176/-110

                        --nhl
                        *alt line* bff/mnn/O5.5/-150
                        *alt line* phi/nj/O5.5/-142
                        5 plays risk 1u (0.2u-each)
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                        • veriableodds
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                          • 08-22-17
                          • 5086

                          #13
                          4-1/ +0.51/ tp count=31
                          ytd/ 16-15/ +0.55u

                          maybe Monday for plays
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                          • Foxx
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                            • 05-25-11
                            • 5825

                            #14
                            Nice thread VO. Keep up the good work.
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                            • veriableodds
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                              • 08-22-17
                              • 5086

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Foxx
                              Nice thread VO. Keep up the good work.
                              Will certainly try. After a 100 or so, hatches will be battened down and in comes bias.
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                              • veriableodds
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 08-22-17
                                • 5086

                                #16
                                Originally posted by veriableodds
                                4-1/ +0.51/ tp count=31
                                ytd/ 16-15/ +0.55u

                                maybe Monday for plays

                                2/19
                                --cbb
                                va/+145
                                Nicholls state/-125
                                incarnate word/-135

                                --nhl
                                stl/+140
                                det/+124
                                5 plays risk 1u (0.2u-each)
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                                • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                  • 04-04-11
                                  • 36654

                                  #17
                                  Good Pitino clip:

                                  Following St. John's eighth loss in its past 10 games Sunday, coach Rick Pitino, in his first season with the Red Storm, lamented his team's lack of athleticism, saying "this has been the most unenjoyable experience I've had since I've been coaching."


                                  Rips into his team. Interesting point he made about consistently being on the short-end of FT attempts.

                                  Wonder how many people saw this coming. They did lose an Exhibition game to Div II Pace.
                                  Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                  • veriableodds
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                                    • 08-22-17
                                    • 5086

                                    #18
                                    2-3/ -0.19u/ tp count=36
                                    ytd/ 18-18/ +0.36u

                                    2/20
                                    --nhl
                                    wsh/+145
                                    vnc/+130

                                    --cbb
                                    *alt line* e michigan/-1.5/+121
                                    3 plays risk 0.6u (0.2u-each)
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                                    • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                      • 04-04-11
                                      • 36654

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by veriableodds
                                      2-3/ -0.19u/ tp count=36
                                      ytd/ 18-18/ +0.36u

                                      2/20
                                      --nhl
                                      wsh/+145
                                      vnc/+130

                                      --cbb
                                      *alt line* e michigan/-1.5/+121
                                      3 plays risk 0.6u (0.2u-each)
                                      GL, veri. One comment. I see that you play the Alt-line on lines close to zero.

                                      This is something we used to debate on the old message boards. Bask bets obviously include the OT scores.

                                      Game can never land on zero, so -1 to +1 looks like a 2-pt swing but there's no landing spot in the middle. +1.5 always felt like a tough bet, since you have to win outright or land exactly 1. +1 never felt good b/c you only push a 1-pt loss.

                                      And so many Free Throws involved in the end-game. Man, if we could only be on the right side of the close ones. We'd be much richer.
                                      Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                      • veriableodds
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                                        • 08-22-17
                                        • 5086

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                        GL, veri. One comment. I see that you play the Alt-line on lines close to zero.

                                        This is something we used to debate on the old message boards. Bask bets obviously include the OT scores.

                                        Game can never land on zero, so -1 to +1 looks like a 2-pt swing but there's no landing spot in the middle. +1.5 always felt like a tough bet, since you have to win outright or land exactly 1. +1 never felt good b/c you only push a 1-pt loss.

                                        And so many Free Throws involved in the end-game. Man, if we could only be on the right side of the close ones. We'd be much richer.
                                        It's simple most games, ''not all'' tend to fly past the number. Total or a side doesn't matter. A single point yields 11%+ more on the payout (personally I'd rather get a +ev on payout, rather than getting less than 1 back for 1 bet) Nhl I want a win on the lay# instead of a push. As far as BTCL that's a complicated prospect, also again this fella has no interest in the time, and dedication needed.
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                                        • veriableodds
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                                          • 08-22-17
                                          • 5086

                                          #21
                                          1-2/ -0.11u/ tp count=39
                                          ytd/ 19-20/ +0.25u

                                          2/21
                                          --cbb
                                          s. fl/-220
                                          georgia/-110
                                          ole miss/+7.5/-110
                                          3 plays risk 0.6u (0.2u-each)
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                                          • veriableodds
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 08-22-17
                                            • 5086

                                            #22
                                            2-1/ +0.07 / tp count=42
                                            ytd/ 21-21/ +0.32u

                                            2/22
                                            --cbb
                                            le moyne/-140
                                            texas state/+135
                                            *alt line* siu edwardsville/-2/-130
                                            washington state/+12.5/-110
                                            *alt line* oregon/-2/+122

                                            --nhl
                                            mnt/+198
                                            wsh/+172
                                            stl/+102
                                            nsh/+140
                                            *alt line* fl-car/O5.5/-139
                                            *alt line* tor-vg/O5.5/-148

                                            --nba
                                            orl-clv/O216.5/-110
                                            12 plays risk 2.4u (0.2u-each)
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                                            • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                              • 04-04-11
                                              • 36654

                                              #23
                                              GL, veri.

                                              I have to even think about Le Moyne. Think that's a newly lined team. So many teams for the oddsmaker to line.
                                              Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                              • veriableodds
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                                                • 08-22-17
                                                • 5086

                                                #24
                                                7-5/ +0.66u / tp count=54
                                                ytd/ 28-26/ +0.98u


                                                2/23
                                                --cbb
                                                Columbia/-155
                                                1 play risk 0.2u
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                                                • veriableodds
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                                                  • 08-22-17
                                                  • 5086

                                                  #25
                                                  0-1/ -0.2u/ tp count=55
                                                  ytd/ 28-27/ +0.78u

                                                  2/24
                                                  --cbb
                                                  unc asheville/-200
                                                  duke/+125
                                                  unc greensboro/-195
                                                  oregon/-130
                                                  w kentucky/-165
                                                  weber state/-145
                                                  Georgetown/-180

                                                  --nba
                                                  bkl-mnn/O216.5/-110

                                                  --nhl
                                                  *alt line* dll-car/O5.5/-148
                                                  9 plays risk 1.8u (0.2u-each)
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                                                  • veriableodds
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                                                    • 08-22-17
                                                    • 5086

                                                    #26
                                                    1-8/ -1.49u / tp count=64
                                                    ytd/ 29-35/ -0.71u

                                                    2/25
                                                    --cbb
                                                    *alt line* quinnipiac/-2.5/+123
                                                    *alt line* cleveland state/-4/+126
                                                    --nba
                                                    dll/ind/U254/-110
                                                    cha/ptl/O213/-110
                                                    --nhl
                                                    *alt line* car/bff/O5.5/-144
                                                    5 plays risk 1u (0.2u-each)
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                                                    • hawkwind
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                                                      • 04-25-11
                                                      • 4036

                                                      #27
                                                      L a m e
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                                                      • JohnGalt2341
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                                                        • 12-31-09
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by veriableodds
                                                        -each play will be risk 0.2u each, regardless of wr% or payout
                                                        -ending thread at 500 plays
                                                        -will keep record wins-vs-losses, also units +/-
                                                        -only value of 106% or higher considered (example below)
                                                        -plays in nba, ncaab, nhl, mlb
                                                        -start this 2/13
                                                        example using lines from today(using model wr% from team rankings subscription)
                                                        nhl
                                                        az/44.7%wr+ the line(varies widely multiple factors ) +138 gives 106.38
                                                        vegas/ 62%wr + the line -133(75%) = 108.5
                                                        2 more examples for ncaab
                                                        kansas/ 54.7%wr + line currently @ +150 =136.75
                                                        southern u/73.4%wr + current line @ -180(56%) = 114.5
                                                        Pardon my ignorance, but what does wr mean?
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                                                        • veriableodds
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                                                          • 08-22-17
                                                          • 5086

                                                          #29
                                                          1-4/ -0.62u/ tp count=69
                                                          ytd/ 30-39/ -1.33u

                                                          2/26
                                                          --nhl
                                                          dll/-160
                                                          --nba
                                                          *alt line* mem/-1/+122
                                                          mia/+7.5/-110
                                                          3 plays risk 0.6u (0.2u-each)
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                                                          • veriableodds
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 08-22-17
                                                            • 5086

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by hawkwind
                                                            L a m e

                                                            I have had a terrible last 3 days agree. This a trial run, not even 100 wagers in. What could one expect??
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                                                            • veriableodds
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                                                              • 08-22-17
                                                              • 5086

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                                                              Pardon my ignorance, but what does wr mean?
                                                              win rate % based on model #'s. Any other questions? Below I will include todays hockey line for examples.
                                                              dallas/ projected win %= 65 + the payot(-160/63%) that equals 106.
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                                                              • veriableodds
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                                                                • 08-22-17
                                                                • 5086

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by veriableodds
                                                                1-4/ -0.62u/ tp count=69
                                                                ytd/ 30-39/ -1.33u

                                                                2/26
                                                                --nhl
                                                                dll/-160
                                                                --nba
                                                                *alt line* mem/-1/+122
                                                                mia/+7.5/-110
                                                                3 plays risk 0.6u (0.2u-each)

                                                                1-2/ -0.22/ tp count=72
                                                                ytd/ 31-41/ -1.55u

                                                                2/27
                                                                --cbb
                                                                cincy/houston/O133/-110
                                                                --nba
                                                                bkl/orl/O213.5/-110
                                                                --nhl
                                                                clg/+100
                                                                3 plays risk 0.6u (0.2u-each)
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                                                                • veriableodds
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                                                                  • 08-22-17
                                                                  • 5086

                                                                  #33
                                                                  1-2/ -0.20u/ tp count=75
                                                                  ytd/ 32-43/ -1.75u

                                                                  2/28**going completely unbiased, running the gauntlet. Anything showing +ev of 106 or higher. This is payout strategy, does not mean the team getting or covering the points has value. All lines are -110 except radford.**
                                                                  --nba
                                                                  no/+6
                                                                  tor/+3
                                                                  mem/+12
                                                                  chi/+5
                                                                  sac/+7.5
                                                                  --cbb
                                                                  boston u/+6.5
                                                                  rhode island/+12.5
                                                                  old dominion/+14.5
                                                                  w carolina/-2
                                                                  tulane/+2
                                                                  marshall/+2
                                                                  northwestern/+5.5
                                                                  providence/+10.5
                                                                  auburn/+7
                                                                  iupui/+13
                                                                  holy cross/+13.5
                                                                  radford/ml/-160
                                                                  winthrop/+8
                                                                  coastal carolina/+9.5
                                                                  belmont/+3
                                                                  wichita state/+8
                                                                  tulsa/+2
                                                                  uic/+9
                                                                  missouri state/+4.5
                                                                  oklahoma/+9.5
                                                                  bellarmine/+11.5
                                                                  ole miss/+6
                                                                  az st/+12
                                                                  depaul/xav/U156.5
                                                                  29 plays risk 5.8u (0.2u-each)
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                                                                  • Foxx
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                                                                    • 05-25-11
                                                                    • 5825

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Whoa Nelly!
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                                                                    • veriableodds
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                                                                      • 08-22-17
                                                                      • 5086

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Foxx
                                                                      Whoa Nelly!
                                                                      Looking forward to throwing more money at this crazy project...lol
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