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  • ThaTopMoron
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 04-30-10
    • 27017

    #1
    Packers can't do math
    you're in a game with a chew up the clock, run team who can convert any 3rd or 4th and 1, 1.5...

    you are down 13 and score a td... yet.... you kick the PAT and make it a 6 point game and allow philly to
    potentially run lots of clock and all they need in the 4th q is a little field goal to go up 2 scores

    packers needed to go for 2 to make it 11-16

    for all the aggressive calls in this league, all the "analytics" stuff... these coaches can't do math that 6+3=9 and a 2 score lead in the 4th quarter

  • DJK
    SBR MVP
    • 01-17-11
    • 2419

    #2
    Originally posted by ThaTopMoron
    you're in a game with a chew up the clock, run team who can convert any 3rd or 4th and 1, 1.5...

    you are down 13 and score a td... yet.... you kick the PAT and make it a 6 point game and allow philly to
    potentially run lots of clock and all they need in the 4th q is a little field goal to go up 2 scores

    packers needed to go for 2 to make it 11-16

    for all the aggressive calls in this league, all the "analytics" stuff... these coaches can't do math that 6+3=9 and a 2 score lead in the 4th quarter

    Yeah if you had the Packers +5.5. Not so much if you had the Eagles -5.5.
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    • DJK
      SBR MVP
      • 01-17-11
      • 2419

      #3
      There's still a chance for a backdoor cover.

      The Eagles kick to make it a 12 point lead.

      The Packers get a garbage TD at the end for the cover.
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      • Steelers05
        SBR High Roller
        • 12-12-24
        • 220

        #4
        You learn a lot of people can't do math as you get older, not being a dick just the truth; which is sad.
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        • Eddy Munny
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 08-13-13
          • 15739

          #5
          You're saying that with hindsight in your pocket. Nobody in their right mind is going for two in that situation. You cut it to 6 and get a defensive stop and you put yourself in position to take the lead with a touchdown and the point after.

          Why would you assume you're surrendering a field goal on the ensuing possession anymore than you'd assume a defensive stop, or a surrendered touchdown for that matter?
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          • ThaTopMoron
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 04-30-10
            • 27017

            #6
            Originally posted by DJK
            There's still a chance for a backdoor cover.

            The Eagles kick to make it a 12 point lead.

            The Packers get a garbage TD at the end for the cover.
            this post was about the packers trying to stay within a 1 score deficit

            nothing to do with the lines and backdoor covers... we all know the way the league is built now the favorites win and cover in the playoffs a ton

            I guess the Packers believed in their defense a little too much. too bad, but glad an injured team is gone and out of the playoffs

            lots of good teams about to collide next week in both conferences
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            • ThaTopMoron
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 04-30-10
              • 27017

              #7
              Originally posted by Eddy Munny
              You're saying that with hindsight in your pocket. Nobody in their right mind is going for two in that situation. You cut it to 6 and get a defensive stop and you put yourself in position to take the lead with a touchdown and the point after.

              Why would you assume you're surrendering a field goal on the ensuing possession anymore than you'd assume a defensive stop, or a surrendered touchdown for that matter?
              it's not assuming, it's knowing who you are playing and not magically believing that you will get a stop outside of FG range
              because they KNOW they are having a hard time stopping the run game then stopping Hurts scrambling and everyone knows if it's 3rd and 1,2 or 4th and 1 even 2 that Philly can just tush push and move the chains and chew up more clock
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              • Eddy Munny
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 08-13-13
                • 15739

                #8
                Originally posted by ThaTopMoron
                this post was about the packers trying to stay within a 1 score deficit

                nothing to do with the lines and backdoor covers... we all know the way the league is built now the favorites win and cover in the playoffs a ton

                I guess the Packers believed in their defense a little too much. too bad, but glad an injured team is gone and out of the playoffs

                lots of good teams about to collide next week in both conferences
                But why wouldn't they have faith in their defense? They played well all day. Game was a rock fight, not a shootout.
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                • Eddy Munny
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 08-13-13
                  • 15739

                  #9
                  Dude, you're like the worst Monday morning quarterback ever. I'm not being a dick, just saying.

                  Another thing you're overlooking is the fact that the Eagles knew a field goal would give them a two possession lead. Go back and watch that drive, they were very conservative once they got into range. Even if LaFleur had defied logic and successfully gone for two, then the Eagles would have been a lot more aggressive on that drive and probably would've punched it in. Every outcome has a ripple effect for events that follow, you're just changing this thing or that thing and assuming everything else remains static, which is not realistic at all.
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                  • Steelers05
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 12-12-24
                    • 220

                    #10
                    Personally in that spot I go for 2 to make it a 5 point game for obvious reason of still keeping it a one score game giving up a FG. I coach 10u, not a pussy like these NFL clowns anymore…we still do kickoffs as well.
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                    • Eddy Munny
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 08-13-13
                      • 15739

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Steelers05
                      Personally in that spot I go for 2 to make it a 5 point game for obvious reason of still keeping it a one score game giving up a FG. I coach 10u, not a pussy like these NFL clowns anymore…we still do kickoffs as well.
                      Right. So if you miss it, you're down by 7, go to overtime and lose?

                      I wonder how that would go over with your fanbase losing in OT versus winning by 1 in regulation (had you kicked)?
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                      • Steelers05
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 12-12-24
                        • 220

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                        Right. So if you miss it, you're down by 7, go to overtime and lose?

                        I wonder how that would go over with your fanbase losing in OT versus winning by 1 in regulation (had you kicked)?
                        The fanbase is 10u parents which I do a better job in 4-5 months than they do in 10 years so honestly could give 2 fuks what they think. Have you seen today’s youth?
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                        • Eddy Munny
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 08-13-13
                          • 15739

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Steelers05
                          The fanbase is 10u parents which I do a better job in 4-5 months than they do in 10 years so honestly could give 2 fuks what they think. Have you seen today’s youth?
                          Okay but that's ultimately not the point I was making. Cutting the lead to 6 gives you a chance to win in regulation by conventional means.
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                          • pabonaparte
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-21-16
                            • 3563

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                            Dude, you're like the worst Monday morning quarterback ever. I'm not being a dick, just saying.

                            Another thing you're overlooking is the fact that the Eagles knew a field goal would give them a two possession lead. Go back and watch that drive, they were very conservative once they got into range. Even if LaFleur had defied logic and successfully gone for two, then the Eagles would have been a lot more aggressive on that drive and probably would've punched it in. Every outcome has a ripple effect for events that follow, you're just changing this thing or that thing and assuming everything else remains static, which is not realistic at all.
                            Good stuff. Just wanted to add that all of the weirdness is captured in Vegas lines. Hence weird numbers like +5.5 (or +12.5 live)
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                            • MOBIL19
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-31-20
                              • 1011

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ThaTopMoron
                              you're in a game with a chew up the clock, run team who can convert any 3rd or 4th and 1, 1.5...

                              you are down 13 and score a td... yet.... you kick the PAT and make it a 6 point game and allow philly to
                              potentially run lots of clock and all they need in the 4th q is a little field goal to go up 2 scores

                              packers needed to go for 2 to make it 11-16

                              for all the aggressive calls in this league, all the "analytics" stuff... these coaches can't do math that 6+3=9 and a 2 score lead in the 4th quarter

                              TLDR

                              No, coach LaFleur doesn't care about what the spread was and what you bet

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