Charles Barkley is correct, how is this an insult?

[stevenash]

"Now, all of a sudden, it's an insult?" - Charles Barkley thinks Luka Doncic's conditioning issues are a valid reason for trade

[Easy-Rider 66]

When you are talking 350 million possible deal of course it's an issue. Hopefully James can motivate Luka. It's amazing how well LB playing at age 40.

[raiders72001]

If Mavs wanted Luka, I think they would have told him privately that he'll be on the trading block if he doesn't come in shape. The more I read about it, the more it seems to be a ploy to move to Vegas.

The owners wanted a casino back to back with the arena in Texas. Texas wouldn't pass a gambling bill to allow this. The owners are in the casino business and decided that a move to Vegas would only be possible if they were to kill the fan base. With Luca and a big fan base, the NBA wouldn't have allowed the move. Just my guess since I don't really know.

[mjsuax13]

If Mavs wanted Luka, I think they would have told him privately that he'll be on the trading block if he doesn't come in shape. The more I read about it, the more it seems to be a ploy to move to Vegas.

The owners wanted a casino back to back with the arena in Texas. Texas wouldn't pass a gambling bill to allow this. The owners are in the casino business and decided that a move to Vegas would only be possible if they were to kill the fan base. Just my guess since I don't really know.

We don’t want them!

[Easy-Rider 66]

We don’t want them!

Why Not?

[klemopixx]

Look at the Sixers. They extended Embiid and suddenly he's like Kawhi and can't play the first half of the season. That's where Luka is headed. Personally, I've always felt all pro sports' regular season are too long except for football. But that's another subject. I wouldn't want to pay a super-max contract to anyone who wasn't hell bent about staying in shape. Dallas knows they could have gotten much much more for Luka but I wonder what they know that other teams don't know.

[gauchojake]

Charles Barkley commenting on other players conditioning is classic.

[Steelers05]

Majority of NBA players are straight pussies, they get passes for getting blowout on b2b's...it's basketball for Christ Sakes. Luka being out of shape, who cares, not like it even matters in today's NBA.

[Thefix13]

Lakers will get Embid or Zion at the same "conditioning" discount.

[stevenash]

Majority of NBA players are straight pussies, they get passes for getting blowout on b2b's...it's basketball for Christ Sakes. Luka being out of shape, who cares, not like it even matters in today's NBA.

Cal Ripken played every inning of every game for a decade.
Day night double headers, 100-degree heat in July and August, it didn't matter what the conditions were.
Cal was like "Maintenance, I don't need no stinking maintenance days off"

[Mac4Lyfe]

Cal Ripken played every inning of every game for a decade.
Day night double headers, 100-degree heat in July and August, it didn't matter what the conditions were.
Cal was like "Maintenance, I don't need no stinking maintenance days off"

Were talking baseball, where guys loaf off half the time. Basketball is uptempo, up and down the court. Not even close to the same wear and tear on your body.

The difference in today’s NBA and the past is the sheer amount of times guys fall to the floor. In the past, You might see Bill Laimbeer fall to the floor every 4 or 5 games. Big guys Like Jokic or Embiid might fall 4 or 5 times a night. I challenge you to torque your body and fall 5 times on your living room carpet and tell me how your joints feel. It’s not the bumping and physical body contacts, it’s the constant falling because guys are bigger, stronger and much faster. The human body is not made to withstand so many falls. It takes me3 days to recover from a grueling basketball game at the local gym. How the hell can anyone expect these big guys to play back to backs, 4 games in 6 nights? That’s fukkin crazy.

[2Sweeet]

If Mavs wanted Luka, I think they would have told him privately that he'll be on the trading block if he doesn't come in shape. The more I read about it, the more it seems to be a ploy to move to Vegas.



The owners wanted a casino back to back with the arena in Texas. Texas wouldn't pass a gambling bill to allow this. The owners are in the casino business and decided that a move to Vegas would only be possible if they were to kill the fan base. With Luca and a big fan base, the NBA wouldn't have allowed the move. Just my guess since I don't really know.

If they don't get that arena and casino they will be in Vegas.

[2Sweeet]

Were talking baseball, where guys loaf off half the time. Basketball is uptempo, up and down the court. Not even close to the same wear and tear on your body.

The difference in today’s NBA and the past is the sheer amount of times guys fall to the floor. In the past, You might see Bill Laimbeer fall to the floor every 4 or 5 games. Big guys Like Jokic or Embiid might fall 4 or 5 times a night. I challenge you to torque your body and fall 5 times on your living room carpet and tell me how your joints feel. It’s not the bumping and physical body contacts, it’s the constant falling because guys are bigger, stronger and much faster. The human body is not made to withstand so many falls. It takes me3 days to recover from a grueling basketball game at the local gym. How the hell can anyone expect these big guys to play back to backs, 4 games in 6 nights? That’s fukkin crazy.

Mac they play 162 games. The NBA is ruined, bottom line u can't let the monkeys start running the zoo. Take it how u want but it's true and when that happens the owners of the zoo will always get shit on there face. U can't pay these ridiculous contracts anymore to guys that can care less if they play the NBA is an unwatchable product until June.

[BHExchange]

Charles Barkley commenting on other players conditioning is classic.

Tom Brady is in top shape, but he can't color comment worth a damn.

I'd much rather listen to an overweight gambling addict who's entertaining. Giving Charles a pass here!

[str]

Charles Barkley commenting on other players conditioning is classic.

His nickname was: The Round Mount of Rebound and also known as the Crisco Kid.

[stevenash]

His nickname was: The Round Mount of Rebound and also known as the Crisco Kid.

That's what we call Tessie Dog; she's a round of rebound.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Charles Barkley commenting on other players conditioning is classic.

In fairness, Sir Charles was way overweight when he came into the league and Moses malone took him under his wing. Barkley lost around 50 pounds. He did gain most back later in his career but he did show that he could shed a fair amount of weight and got more serious once he was in the league. Luka has not done that as of yet. I believe that he will get into better shape this offseason.

[stevenash]

Were talking baseball, where guys loaf off half the time.

I was a catcher for 14 years.
You ever catch both ends of a doubleheader on July 4, in 98-degree heat in full gear?
I lost twelve pounds in water weight.

I caught a fastball once in the wrong spot of my mitt that snapped my left thumb ligament straight back.
I've been concussed several times.

I once took a vicious cheap shot elbow to the head on a bang-bang play at the plate from a 6'4" 220-pound linebacker type so hard the next thing I remembered was waking up in the ER with cuckoo-cuckoo birds circling around me.

You want to sell baseball is a sport where guys loaf off half the time, fine, but don't bring that shit around here, because I'm not buying.

[klemopixx]

I was a catcher for 14 years.
You ever catch both ends of a doubleheader on July 4, in 98-degree heat in full gear?
I lost twelve pounds in water weight.

I caught a fastball once in the wrong spot of my mitt that snapped my left thumb ligament straight back.
I've been concussed several times.

I once took a vicious cheap shot elbow to the head on a bang-bang play at the plate from a 6'4" 220-pound linebacker type so hard the next thing I remembered was waking up in the ER with cuckoo-cuckoo birds circling around me.

You want to sell baseball is a sport where guys loaf off half the time, fine, but don't bring that shit around here, because I'm not buying.

I always knew you were a catcher type.

[stevenash]

I always knew you were a catcher type.

That old gag.
lol
You can apply 'tight end' to that joke as well.

[Git Lo]

Much needed ratings boost for the NBA now that Luka is in LA
Dallas avoids a max contract for a out of shape/injury prone Luka
LA gets somewhat damaged goods who stands to benefit from mentorship from Lebron

The league pretends like this happened out of nowhere but it probably didn't behind closed doors.

[raiders72001]

Cal Ripken played every inning of every game for a decade.
Day night double headers, 100-degree heat in July and August, it didn't matter what the conditions were.
Cal was like "Maintenance, I don't need no stinking maintenance days off"

Jordan was 40 his last year in Washington and played all 82 games averaging 37 mins a game. Jordan averaged 20 pts per night of his teams 91.

[stevenash]

Jordan was 40 his last year in Washington and played all 82 games averaging 37 mins a game. Jordan averaged 20 pts per night of his teams 91.

I say this as a compliment, Jordan was a freak.
He couldn't hit a curveball though.

[pavyracer]

Cal Ripken played every inning of every game for a decade.
Day night double headers, 100-degree heat in July and August, it didn't matter what the conditions were.
Cal was like "Maintenance, I don't need no stinking maintenance days off"

Are you comparing playing baseball everyday with basketball? Baseball involves minimal running and 99% of the time you stand doing nothing. No conditioning needed to play baseball.

[19th Hole]

Cal Ripken played every inning of every game for a decade.
Day night double headers, 100-degree heat in July and August, it didn't matter what the conditions were.
Cal was like "Maintenance, I don't need no stinking maintenance days off"

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You could be a kid for as long as you want when you play baseball.

Cal Ripken, Jr.

[stevenash]

No conditioning needed to play baseball.

This might be the most ignorant post of the year.

[Steelers05]

Not a baseball player but coach junior high baseball with a buddy (trade off because he helps me with youth football), I agree with Nash. We are currently in optional practices in the gym and we bag our kids like it's 2/days in foots or like it's hockey. How the heck you suppose to make it around the bases if you aren't conditioned?

[stevenash]

The thing I love the most about Charles Barkley and Aaron Rodgers equally is that they provide me with an endless supply of content.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Mac they play 162 games. The NBA is ruined, bottom line u can't let the monkeys start running the zoo. Take it how u want but it's true and when that happens the owners of the zoo will always get shit on there face. U can't pay these ridiculous contracts anymore to guys that can care less if they play the NBA is an unwatchable product until June.

I love watching the NBA. I watch every night most of the time with no money on the games. Best athletes of any sport by far. College football really lost me this year with so many fking commercials. CFB games are taking 4 hours. I ain’t got time for that. NBA games start on time and done under 2 hours.

Owners and players are all making a killing. 51% goes to the players. That’s fair. Plenty of money to go around. International exposure will be an even bigger impact.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I was a catcher for 14 years.
You ever catch both ends of a doubleheader on July 4, in 98-degree heat in full gear?
I lost twelve pounds in water weight.

I caught a fastball once in the wrong spot of my mitt that snapped my left thumb ligament straight back.
I've been concussed several times.

I once took a vicious cheap shot elbow to the head on a bang-bang play at the plate from a 6'4" 220-pound linebacker type so hard the next thing I remembered was waking up in the ER with cuckoo-cuckoo birds circling around me.

You want to sell baseball is a sport where guys loaf off half the time, fine, but don't bring that shit around here, because I'm not buying.

I played catcher in little league and I agree it is the most physical position next to pitcher. But I also played outfield as well and you cannot tell me that a guy standing in right field catching 4or 5balls all evening is even comparable to basketball or soccer. You are not going to convince me that they are getting hit out there as much as other sports. The biggest issue for players is not spraining their ankle running the bases.

[stevenash]

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I respect this post.

[Mac4Lyfe]

^
I respect this post.

And I believe you have to have some of the best skills to play baseball. How many people dare get behind the plate staring down a 100 mph fastball. You have to have fast twitch muscles, hand eye coordination that is out of this world to play baseball. Try catching a pop shot in the infield. Only a hand full of people can play at that level. I have much respect for what they do.

‘The Gator football team would have to walk past the baseball team after practices. One afternoon I pick up a bat, step to the plate in full pads and helmet. Mike Stanley who was a catcher throws a slider at me. I stood there frozen as the ball went from left to right. I just knew that ball was going to pluck me in the helmet. It curved right past my face. All I heard was a swoosh. I dropped the bat, ran towards our locker room laughing like it was no big deal. That pitch scared the hell out of me and I had on a helmet….. and he was a catcher. I’d never try that again.

[magpie878]

To add to the catcher's workload, don't forget he backs up first base often.. catcher is a brutal position.

[stevenash]

^
The only fielder situated in foul territory.

[dhristov211]

And I believe you have to have some of the best skills to play baseball. How many people dare get behind the plate staring down a 100 mph fastball. You have to have fast twitch muscles, hand eye coordination that is out of this world to play baseball. Try catching a pop shot in the infield. Only a hand full of people can play at that level. I have much respect for what they do.

‘The Gator football team would have to walk past the baseball team after practices. One afternoon I pick up a bat, step to the plate in full pads and helmet. Mike Stanley who was a catcher throws a slider at me. I stood there frozen as the ball went from left to right. I just knew that ball was going to pluck me in the helmet. It curved right past my face. All I heard was a swoosh. I dropped the bat, ran towards our locker room laughing like it was no big deal. That pitch scared the hell out of me and I had on a helmet….. and he was a catcher. I’d never try that again.

Did you guys know Patrick Mahomes was a semi professional relief pitcher, drafted by the Tigers?