Are You A Compulsive Gambler? Simple Yes or No

**BuddyBear** · 03-19-07, 08:39 AM

According the to the psychological defintion.....yes

And just about everyone else on here is as well so I have a ton of company.

**Dark Horse** · 03-19-07, 08:51 AM

No.

But anybody that is may want to read Billy Walters story in Gambling Wizards. He lost tons of money before he turned it around and became a legend.

**WWTSblows** · 03-19-07, 08:55 AM

Short answer, no.

Long answer, yes.

**Dark Horse** · 03-19-07, 08:56 AM

That's only one letter longer.

**BuddyBear** · 03-19-07, 09:29 AM

Just like everyone on gaming forums wins all the time and gets laid every night by a different girl....most people are not going to admit they are compulsive gamblers even though they meet the definition easily. The fact that you are posting on a gaming forum basically means you are a compulsive gambler. And none of this nonsense trying to rationalize your gambling as a unique investment opportunity. About 97 to 99% of posters on SBR are compulsive gamblers. Gambling and games is all they think about day and night. When they go to bed they replay games in their minds and think about tomorrow's games. What's wrong with you guys thinking you aren't compulsive gamblers.

Here is a list of criteria that you can use to assess your level of problem gambling. If you meet 4 or 5 of them, you are a serious compulsive gambler.

1. Preoccupation. The subject has frequent thoughts about gambling experiences, whether past, future, or fantasy.
2. Tolerance. As with drug tolerance, the subject requires larger or more frequent wagers to experience the same "rush".
3. Withdrawal. Restlessness or irritability associated with attempts to cease or reduce gambling.
4. Escape. The subject gambles to improve mood or escape problems.
5. Chasing. The subject tries to win back gambling losses with more gambling.
6. Lying. The subject tries to hide the extent of his or her gambling by lying to family, friends, or therapists.
7. Loss of control. The subject has unsuccessfully attempted to reduce gambling.
8. Illegal acts. The subject has broken the law in order to obtain gambling money or recover gambling losses.
9. Risked significant relationship. The subject gambles despite risking or losing a relationship, job, or other significant opportunity.
10. Bailout. The subject turns to family, friends, or another third party for financial assistance as a result of gambling.

**ShamsWoof10** · 03-19-07, 09:39 AM

Yes!!!

**Dark Horse** · 03-19-07, 10:08 AM

Originally posted by BuddyBear

The fact that you are posting on a gaming forum basically means you are a compulsive gambler. And none of this nonsense trying to rationalize your gambling as a unique investment opportunity. About 97 to 99% of posters on SBR are compulsive gamblers.

With all due respect.

Posting here makes one a compulsive gambler? 97-99% of posters are compulsive? Where did you get those numbers?

And anyone who prefers sports betting over Wall Street is talking nonsense? My question: if this is your opinion of gamblers, why even gamble? And don't say you can't help yourself.

**austintx05** · 03-19-07, 11:59 AM

Bear is another idiot....just because you post here doesn't mean you are compulsive.

What is the difference between Wall Street and Sports Wagering...

**Willie Bee** · 03-19-07, 12:03 PM

No.

**ShamsWoof10** · 03-19-07, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by austintx05

Bear is another idiot.....

What is the difference between Wall Street and Sports Wagering...

Other then one is socially excepted... NONE they are both gambling of some form PERIOD!!! To boot the real gamblers are in the market... You put a million dollar trade at BetFair (probably the only place you can do it) people will notice but 10 million isn't sh*t on Wall Street... You can make MUCH more on Wall Street that's why the real gamblers don't play around with little ass sh*t like sports wagering... You have to worry about books cutting you off or having people place bets for you to make a penny compared to what you can make on Wall Street with out that bullsh*t...

**stump** · 03-19-07, 12:27 PM

nope

**jjgold** · 03-19-07, 12:29 PM

Ones not admitting it are in denial, I think SBR has the highest rate of compulsive gamblers out of any forums.

**tacomax** · 03-19-07, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by BuddyBear

About 97 to 99% of posters on SBR are compulsive gamblers.

Any evidence to back this up or are you using the jjgold style of picking the first number that comes in your head?

**slash** · 03-19-07, 12:34 PM

Not a compulsive gambler. Hardly even a gambler.

**Willie Bee** · 03-19-07, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Ones not admitting it are in denial...

Wanna' bet?

**mavs1978** · 03-19-07, 01:29 PM

wall st vs sports betting

this is insane.. i love to bet sports but to say they are the same is dumb. the biggest difference is that wall st is not a 0 sum game. in gambling for one to win, someone else has to lose. if you win, the sportsbook loses, or someone making a market at matchbook, tradesports etc and vice versa. compare that to wall st were in the last 100 years the dow had gone from 100-12000 and trillions of dollars have been created in market cap wealth. sure people lose money and there ass every day in the stock market, but overall there has been trillions of wealth created.

**BuddyBear** · 03-19-07, 01:45 PM

You people are sicker than I thought. Austin you are a compulsive gambler and so are you Dark Horse. Both of you guys are sitting in front of your computers looking at lines all day. DH I respect you a lot but seriously to think you are not a compulsive gambler is a shortcoming on your part. Hell, I readily admit I am. Why can't you guys... Austin what's your deal...i've seen on you a number of different gaming forums inquiring about lines and really getting involved. Sorry but this is not recreational or some passive activity you do in your spare time. It's quite apparent.

Just about everyone who posts on here is a compulsive gambler. We can argue about the degree to which you are but if you go see a psychiatrist or a counselor you would most likely be diagnosed as such.

I know there is a lot of lying on here about how much people bet, about how much people win, about often you get laid, etc....and no doubt people here will try to rationalize that gambling is one of several diverse activities that they participate in. Let me guess most of you guys have a slew of other activities besides compulsive gambling like going to museums, art galleries, going to the opera, reading, spending time outside, visiting friends, volunteering, mountain climbing, cooking, stamp collecting, etc..........sorry you guys are degenerates on here....full fledged degenerates. Gambling takes up the bulk of your time day and night. Did you think about the games went you went to bed? Did you think about next weekend's games? Denying it is useless. Most of you probably answered yes to 8 or 9 of those criteria let alone the 4 or 5 required to be diagnosed for problem gambling.

I remember one night at Covers, one of the longest threads I ever saw was an in-game between the University Kansas City Missouri and Pacific Thanksgiving eve for a game that started at 12:00 AM Eastern....if you go there, Hawaii football games routinely have the longest in-game threads. Geez, I wonder why?

But yeah, most of you aren't problem gamblers....the "public" is...you guys all do this for fun on the side. Guys on here are trying to predict lines a week ahead of time. Guys on here months ago were posting where they should play for bases this year and are already inquiring about football.

You guys laugh all you want at me....just like

1) when it was uncool to criticize VIP I did and then eventually everyone did...

2) When I said Neteller would be done soon....

3) when I said the offshore industry is going to take a dive soon...

You guys keep pretending you aren't problem/compulsive gamblers....meanwhile you have 8 windows up with different books and SBR live lines up. Don't get me wrong you can be a compulsive gambler and still be good at this but denying you are a compulsive gambler and having 100 and 1000s of posts on here is just ridiculous. It's like an alcoholic telling you that just because he goes to the bar everyday, it does not make him an alcoholic....you guys crack me up on here.

**thezbar** · 03-19-07, 01:47 PM

Short answer/yes
long answer/no

**durito** · 03-19-07, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by BuddyBear

Here is a list of criteria that you can use to assess your level of problem gambling. If you meet 4 or 5 of them, you are a serious compulsive gambler.

1. Preoccupation. The subject has frequent thoughts about gambling experiences, whether past, future, or fantasy.
2. Tolerance. As with drug tolerance, the subject requires larger or more frequent wagers to experience the same "rush".
3. Withdrawal. Restlessness or irritability associated with attempts to cease or reduce gambling.
4. Escape. The subject gambles to improve mood or escape problems.
5. Chasing. The subject tries to win back gambling losses with more gambling.
6. Lying. The subject tries to hide the extent of his or her gambling by lying to family, friends, or therapists.
7. Loss of control. The subject has unsuccessfully attempted to reduce gambling.
8. Illegal acts. The subject has broken the law in order to obtain gambling money or recover gambling losses.
9. Risked significant relationship. The subject gambles despite risking or losing a relationship, job, or other significant opportunity.
10. Bailout. The subject turns to family, friends, or another third party for financial assistance as a result of gambling.

If this is the definition, then I say no.

1. Only because it's what I'm working on,
2. I make less wagers each year. The $ goes up based on my bankroll growth.
3. Nope. Once basketball is over, I won't make another wager untill football starts. I'm actually quite looking forward to it.
4. Not true at all.
5. Don't do it.
6. Nope.
7. Never tried, don't want to.
8. Never
9. Never
10. Never

**durito** · 03-19-07, 01:55 PM

And while you can make more money in financial markets, you cannot come close to the % returns a sucessful sports investor can make. Obviously once you are dealing with millions of $, there isn't much of a market for you in sports, but how many people have that kind of money to invest?

**jjgold** · 03-19-07, 02:33 PM

Buddy Bear is a very accurate poster,

Darker is a compulsive gambler actually a first ballot one, does he win? Possibly, is he sharp? Yes

But that does not mean he is not compulsive

**michael777** · 03-19-07, 02:38 PM

i have bet everyday for 34 years,i am a compulsive gambler

**jjgold** · 03-19-07, 02:39 PM

Mikey...lmao

you might be the worst after that post.

**Razz** · 03-19-07, 02:39 PM

Yes

**MBENZ** · 03-19-07, 02:40 PM

Whats the line on the sun coming up tomorrow?

The key word is compulsive.My definition of compulsive would be you are willing to risk home,family and anything else of value to you to make a bet.If you bet within your means and don't risk it all for a fix,you are not a compulsive gambler.I've been playing this game for 30+ years and my family has never missed a meal,so I guess the the answer is NO.
My hope would be that Buddy's statistics are horrendously wrong because I would hate to see us all going down the shithole eventually.GL to all in the sweet !6!

**jjgold** · 03-19-07, 02:44 PM

Benzer 1st off do you have kids?

Benzer secondly if a shirt costs $25 do you say it is to much and walk out?

Benzer do you have less than $200 in your pocket when you go out at night?

Fk this I am making a video about this thread

Give me one hr to upload

**ShamsWoof10** · 03-19-07, 03:13 PM

Not even millions just A million... Sports as Mavs. poiinted out is a zero sum game and IF you are good you can do OK and how many do you know that are that good..? I know more who have a million then I know who are that good... Mavs. the market is gambling and the wealth that came was "created" out of thin air and the wealth can, as you will see, dissappear back into thin air... Can anyone say NASDAQ 2000'... It went from over 5,000 to under 1,000 so alot LOST!!! Gambling means risk of any kind and the market no matter stocks, mfunds, or whatever HAS RISK so it's gambling... Just because it isn't sports don't mean it's not gambling...

**MBENZ** · 03-19-07, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Benzer 1st off do you have kids?

Benzer secondly if a shirt costs $25 do you say it is to much and walk out?

Benzer do you have less than $200 in your pocket when you go out at night?

Fk this I am making a video about this thread

Give me one hr to upload

Did'nt mean to strike a nerve there postmaster
#1 yes
#2 nothing but polo
#3 if I don't,plenty of plastic to back me up

Please,when you are making your half ass video,that you slip in the f-word as much as possible so your little cyber followers can get their cookies tonight

**jjgold** · 03-19-07, 03:26 PM

benzer your in the video and the main character

I will go along with Buddy here and believe everyone on this board is a problem/compulsive gambler

**Tchocky** · 03-19-07, 03:26 PM

I don't see myself as a compulsive gambler but according to "BuddyBear's" criteria, I am a compulsive gamber. With the exception of my trip to Vegas earlier this month, I haven't placed a wager since Pinny closed my account earlier this year.

**jjgold** · 03-19-07, 03:27 PM

Tchocky I know guys that make 5 bets a year and are compulsive and even embezzled money to pay for the 5 bets.

**MBENZ** · 03-19-07, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

benzer your in the video and the main character

I will go along with Buddy here and believe everyone on this board is a problem/compulsive gambler

And to think all my life i worked in the real world to make something of myself and in one foul swoop,I'm going to be a star in a JJ fantasy land production.Thanks,jj

**Dark Horse** · 03-19-07, 04:03 PM

I love the choice we are being given here:

1) admit you have a problem.
or
2) if you don't admit you have a problem, you are in denial, which means the problem is even greater.

Compulsive gambling is a serious condition. But if you want to play amateur psychiatrist to talk as many people as possible into a condition they don't have, I guess that has its own charm.

**jjgold** · 03-19-07, 04:19 PM

Darker I took some classes on this, Pags might be the only guy that is not one here and possibly slash is the other guy.

Darker admitting you have a problem is the 1st step.