Kickoff Return TD, offensive or defensive TD?

**OMGRandyJackson** · 03-01-13, 02:16 PM

Anyone have an idea?

**tto827** · 03-01-13, 02:18 PM

It's a special teams touchdown. For fantasy purposes its scored as part of defense/special teams (sure you knew this). Why are you asking? might be able to help more if we knew what you want it for. Because right now, my answer is that its a touchdown, who fukkin cares?

**InTheDrink** · 03-01-13, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by tto827

It's a special teams touchdown. For fantasy purposes its scored as part of defense/special teams (sure you knew this). Why are you asking? might be able to help more if we knew what you want it for. Because right now, my answer is that its a touchdown, who fukkin cares?

must be getting ready for his ffb draft in 5 months

**OMGRandyJackson** · 03-01-13, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by tto827

It's a special teams touchdown. For fantasy purposes its scored as part of defense/special teams (sure you knew this). Why are you asking? might be able to help more if we knew what you want it for. Because right now, my answer is that its a touchdown, who fukkin cares?

Had a super bowl prop that offense scores all TD and it was ruled a loss but wasnt sure what kickoff td counted as. Been in chat with 5d for over 20min waiting on answer lol

**tto827** · 03-01-13, 02:28 PM

I would definitely say that its a loss. What were the odds on it? that would help a bit. And the superbowl happened multiple weeks ago, why just solving it now?

**ebbearsfb1** · 03-01-13, 02:28 PM

Well it was ruled a loss cause jacoby jones had a return for a touchdown.
So no not all tds were scored by the offense

**OMGRandyJackson** · 03-01-13, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by tto827

I would definitely say that its a loss. What were the odds on it? that would help a bit. And the superbowl happened multiple weeks ago, why just solving it now?

I didnt realize kick off returns counted as a defensive TD so I assumed the bet hit, and when I was looking thru my history I saw it was ruled a loss. So I contacted 5d support to clarify and like Ive said theyve taken 20+ minutes to answer (still havent answered yet), as they are unsure and are looking into it...

**tto827** · 03-01-13, 02:34 PM

Ya again I wouldn't call it a defensive TD.

If the bet were worded, will a defensive TD be scored, and you took no, then I think that would be a winner. But all touchdowns scored will be by the offense is a loss in my book, although that is a god-awfully worded prop. How about just No defensive/special teams touchdowns vs. yes special team/defensive touchdowns, no really room for discussion there.

**OMGRandyJackson** · 03-01-13, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by tto827

Ya again I wouldn't call it a defensive TD.

If the bet were worded, will a defensive TD be scored, and you took no, then I think that would be a winner. But all touchdowns scored will be by the offense is a loss in my book, although that is a god-awfully worded prop. How about just No defensive/special teams touchdowns vs. yes special team/defensive touchdowns, no really room for discussion there.

Yeah, Im totally fine with the result, it was more for personal knowledge, as I didnt even take into consideration kick off return TD possibility so definately an error on my part.

Regardless 5d finally figured it out saying because I took more than 7 days to challenge the grading of the bet, the bet cannot be reviewed. Which again is fine, thats my fault, but Id still like an answer from them for future wagering, and obv when I said thats fine but can u at least clarify what you count a kick off return TD as, chat stops replying for like 5min....

Worst support ever.

**OMGRandyJackson** · 03-01-13, 02:42 PM

WOW 5d just said a kick off return TD would be an offensive TD! So bet should have hit but sicne I took more than 7 days, I cannot challenge it. ffs!!!!!!!!

**OMGRandyJackson** · 03-01-13, 02:44 PM

omfg now hes telling me hes dealing with multiple people at the same time and is confused and is not sure...wtf 5dimes..

**tto827** · 03-01-13, 02:44 PM

Wow. What were the odds on it? Tough one.

**OMGRandyJackson** · 03-01-13, 02:46 PM

odds were -165 lol.

**OMGRandyJackson** · 03-01-13, 02:49 PM

wow I asked if he could at least admit 5d made a mistake and he goes whats the point it doesnt make a difference

**tto827** · 03-01-13, 02:52 PM

So a defensive TD (ie. pick 6 or fumble return TD) was +140ish? That seems awfully low, would have to think special teams were against you on this one. Hope you learned your lesson though, clarify or ignore vaguely worded props.

**OMGRandyJackson** · 03-01-13, 02:57 PM

Im not sure I cannot remember odds for defensive TD but you are probably correct. And yea its not a big deal, I only do these kind of bets for the super bowl and bets are small. More for fun then to actually make bank lol. In fact I expect to lose more than I make on super bowl props.

5d admitted it was graded incorrectly. So my bet should have won but since its been more than 7 days, the grading cannot be changed, which is fine thats my error.

**High3rEl3m3nt** · 03-01-13, 03:01 PM

What? It is your error? BS!

If we make a mistake, you pay, unless you catch the mistake we made?

**OMGRandyJackson** · 03-01-13, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by High3rEl3m3nt

What? It is your error? BS!

If we make a mistake, you pay, unless you catch the mistake we made?

Their rules clearly state you have 7 days to review wagers. So yes it is my error. It sucks but when the rules are clear, there is nothing I can do.

**UntilTheNDofTimE** · 03-01-13, 03:15 PM

They consider that a offensive score?

There are 3 types of scores

- offensive
- defensive( pick 6, fumble return)
- special teams( return kickoff/ punt. Fumble return on kickoff/punt/ fg)

if you said all scores are offensive this should be graded a loss. Not sure why 5dimes wouldcall a special teams score a offensive score.

**convick** · 03-01-13, 03:21 PM

Returns on specials teams are not offensive TDs. Customer service reps are idiots. Prop was graded correctly.

**MoneyLineDawg** · 03-01-13, 03:23 PM

It's a special teams TD.....NOT Offensive OR Defensive

Sounds like a loss to me

**MoneyLineDawg** · 03-01-13, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by convick

Returns on specials teams are not offensive TDs. Customer service reps are idiots. Prop was graded correctly.

Exactly.

**Powderguy** · 03-01-13, 03:40 PM

omfg specials team td...good god

**ebbearsfb1** · 03-01-13, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by tto827

So a defensive TD (ie. pick 6 or fumble return TD) was +140ish? That seems awfully low, would have to think special teams were against you on this one. Hope you learned your lesson though, clarify or ignore vaguely worded props.

the proper from my knowledge normally reads

will there be a defensive/special team touchdown scored?

Yes + 165
No -180

or something along those lines

**rm18** · 03-01-13, 06:25 PM

permaban

**slacker00** · 03-03-13, 12:40 AM

Kickoff return TD is not an offensive TD, the customer service is stupid. Challenge more losses, you might get an idiot.

**davidmiru** · 03-04-13, 04:48 AM

Originally posted by convick

Returns on specials teams are not offensive TDs. Customer service reps are idiots. Prop was graded correctly.

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