Expekt just scewed me over the pirates game

[BigBollocks]

I still believe he should have been paid, but at worst he clearly should have just had his bet void and been refunded.....

Their listed rule stating...."For betting purposes, a match becomes official once 5 innings has been played (4.5 if the home team is in the lead)" certainly leads one to believe that they follow standard Vegas grading rules.

However, with the vagueness of the situation the statement on the website that....."If a match is cancelled or moved to another date, all bets are considered void and the odds is set to 1.00" should prevail. I think a void was most likely what the correct outcome should have been.

How in the world he wound up with a losing wager based on how the game finished up a day later is beyond me! They even e-mailed him saying they had changed their minds and decided to go that route, which was posted nowhere on the site and was clearly a spur of the moment decision. I'm sorry but that is absurd....

[jase81]

this was there latest email

Dear customer,

Thank you for contacting Expekt.com

I've been in contact with our bookie department.

We will payout tonight depending on what happens if/when the game continues. All
bets will be resulted on what happens if/when play resumes tonight. We will use
the 36 hour rule

Note that we have some different rules than other companies and we think its the
fairest.

Have a nice day.

they have decided to use this part of their rules and not the

For betting purposes, a match becomes official once 5 innings has been played (4.5 if the home team is in the lead

part of the rules on their site

this sucks

[Santo]

It was posted on the site. See Justin's post on page 1.

[jase81]

so why refund my money and then change their minds later

For betting purposes, a match becomes official once 5 innings has been played (4.5 if the home team is in the lead

I Should have been paid

[Justin7]

For betting purposes, a match becomes official once 5 innings has been played (4.5 if the home team is in the lead

I Should have been paid

This rule applies to games that are ended early. The game didn't end - it was continued. As I said earlier, grading the game at its conclusion this morning is consistent with their rules. It may suck that you lost, but you lost fairly.

[jase81]

No I did not they chose to use one part of their rules to stiff me and ignore another part that would have paid me

I shaould have been paid

[LargeMouthBass]

This is why betting on baseball sucks horse cock!!!! This will never happen in basketball or football.

[Pareto]

They shouldnt have refunded your money so soon, but instead waited to see when the rest of the game was played. But that mistake was fixed. So what is the problem?

As far as I can read Expekt followed their rules, and as far as I am concerned the rules are more fair than the so called "industry standard". Had I gambled on the cubs I would not have been happy to see my wager a loss, when they were ahead.

But naturally it is not fun to lose. Especially if you were arbing and you also lost the other side at one of the books that follows the "industry standard" rules.

[jase81]

The problem is Pareto (or should I say expect employee, who are you trying to kid) is that I wasnt arbing I made a bet that at 99.9% of sportsbooks I would have won. So go tell your bosses at expect to change their rules so this never happens again and to do the right thing and pay me my winnings
If I was arbing I sure as hell wouldnt arb on a 120 dollar bet

[Santo]

You have no case to be paid unfortunately. All you can do is move on.

[jase81]

I will keep fighting this decicion I spoke to Pinnacle Greek criss and VIP and all have said they would have paid me

[LT Profits]

jase,

Of course those other books would have paid you, but unfortunately Expekt has their exception right in their rules in black and white, so sadly you will not get paid. Even if they change their rules tomorrow, there is no way they would go back and pay you retroactively. So you really have no choice but to move on, although I would like to ask why you are betting MLB at a rinky-dinky shop like that anyway.

[BadAzz]

You are free to keep fighting the decision, but there is really nothing to be gained. They cannot grade bets against their rules. It does not matter how other books graded this as their rules are different. Tough luck this time, but that's how it is.

I would not call Expekt "rinky dinky" but I also don't understand why anyone would use them for bases.

[jase81]

There odds on MLB are surprisingly good, have a look but at all costs dont put any money into this sham sportsbook. They are not trustworthy enough

[Santo]

They're perfectly safe and trustworthy. You just can't accept they did nothing wrong.

[jase81]

why did they refund my money then take it away again very shady

[LT Profits]

Santo,

I agree they did nothing wrong as their rule is right there for all to read. It is just that they are the only book I ever heard of that has this suspension clause, which flies in the face of all the other books that honor the vegas rules. My fear would be what would stop them from writing up other exception rules? It is not as if we are talking about a minor peripheral sport here like tennis, where rules could vary significantly from book to book. The four major North American sports (bases, foots, hoops, hockey) have virtually the same rules everywhere, so I find something like this rather disconcerting.

[BadAzz]

LT, I am just guessing here but Baseball could very well be minor peripheral sport for Expekt, which is geared for European players. Also, I find their rule to be much more fair than the Vegas version.

[LT Profits]

BadAzz,

Fair enough! As for being more fair than the standard rule, that is actually beside the point. There are a lot of rules that do not seem fair, such as OVER bets being refunded if a game is cut short although the game already went Over. A rule is a rule and we simply have to go along with it.

[Pareto]

"The problem is Pareto (or should I say expect employee, who are you trying to kid) is that I wasnt arbing I made a bet that at 99.9% of sportsbooks I would have won. So go tell your bosses at expect to change their rules so this never happens again and to do the right thing and pay me my winnings
If I was arbing I sure as hell wouldnt arb on a 120 dollar bet"


Well you got me. I am an expekt employee just like the 10 other people in this thread who dont think you have a case.

The truth is that I do not play at Expekt anymore because I have been severely limited. ( about 200 dollars a bet, and every bet has to be manually accepted).

But stop cying about your wager. If I was betting on a game, and the game was suspended and delayed when my team was behind, I would be glad to see I didnt lose the bet. Instead of you, who for some reason think you should have won it.

[jase81]

thats no way for a rep from a sham bookie should behave you should be all nice and appolagetic and try and scam people into placing wagers into you scam book

just because I have exposed your employers for what they are dont have a fit

Just move on and get a job with sportbook.com

[Justin7]

jase81 -

I spent my time to investigate your complaint. Despite your objections, Expekt did everything according to their own rules. As a player, you have a responsibility to read the rules at a book and understand them.

If you would like to continue your complaining, I would ask that you base your ongoing complaints on logic and their rules. I am extremely reluctant to lock a thread or censor a poster here, but I am very close in this thread - your accusations that Expekt "scammed you" or "is shady" is sucking up my time. If a book lies, cheats or steals, I'll be the first to state that. In this case though, Expekt did nothing wrong.

[tacomax]

I agree they did nothing wrong as their rule is right there for all to read.

So, they did nothing wrong.

It is just that they are the only book I ever heard of that has this suspension clause, which flies in the face of all the other books that honor the vegas rules.

Irrelevant. They're not a Vegas book. They're not even a book that specialises in the American market. Although unfortunate for the OP, it is a lesson that you should pay attention to the grading rules for a sportsbook.

[jase81]

jase81 -

I spent my time to investigate your complaint. Despite your objections, Expekt did everything according to their own rules. As a player, you have a responsibility to read the rules at a book and understand them.

If you would like to continue your complaining, I would ask that you base your ongoing complaints on logic and their rules. I am extremely reluctant to lock a thread or censor a poster here, but I am very close in this thread - your accusations that Expekt "scammed you" or "is shady" is sucking up my time. If a book lies, cheats or steals, I'll be the first to state that. In this case though, Expekt did nothing wrong.

I get it expect must pay very high affiliate bonuses. They must have contacted you and told you to shut me up well I wont be shut up this scam sports book didnt pay me a winning wager and all you want to do is take there side

so much for being objective and looking after the players rights ONCE again I woulfd have been paid at 99.9% of sportsbooks so the fact that this one is not paying me says stay away at all costs

I dont care how much affiliate money you get from them I am going to warn every one I can about the shady practices of expect

[wack]

Its $130.50 (strange amount for someone who isn't arbing) - give it up.

They have graded according to their rules, there is no more to it. You are just making a fool of yourself. If you don't like it, ignore their prices - next time they are 2.48 on the pirates when the US line is more like 2.35, bet the 2.35.

[durito]

I get it expect must pay very high affiliate bonuses. They must have contacted you and told you to shut me up well I wont be shut up this scam sports book didnt pay me a winning wager and all you want to do is take there side

so much for being objective and looking after the players rights ONCE again I woulfd have been paid at 99.9% of sportsbooks so the fact that this one is not paying me says stay away at all costs

I dont care how much affiliate money you get from them I am going to warn every one I can about the shady practices of expect

Justin spent time out of his day to look into this for you. There was nothing in it for him or sbr.

The facts are that you are wrong. Regardless of what the rules may be at other sportsbooks, you didn't make this bet at 99.9% of sportsbooks. You lost. If you had a legitimate gripe sbr would help you, despite your rude attitude.

[tacomax]

I get it expect must pay very high affiliate bonuses. They must have contacted you and told you to shut me up well I wont be shut up this scam sports book didnt pay me a winning wager and all you want to do is take there side

I severely doubt that SBR are scared of Expekt. They didn't pay out because the grading rules for that match didn't constitute your bet being a winner. You can throw as many toys out of the pram as you want, but the rules are there to see in black and white. Whether or not 99.9% of sportsbooks had grading rules that your bet would be a winner is irrelevant - perhaps you should read the rules next time.

[jase81]

Expect should be downgraded to an F

They screwed me big time Stay away at all costs everyone

[Santo]

Now you're just being a prat.

[jase81]

you are

[vanman]

The problem is Pareto (or should I say expect employee, who are you trying to kid) is that I wasnt arbing I made a bet that at 99.9% of sportsbooks I would have won. So go tell your bosses at expect to change their rules so this never happens again and to do the right thing and pay me my winnings
If I was arbing I sure as hell wouldnt arb on a 120 dollar bet

You lost fair and square so get over it,also it was only for a paltry $120