What direction do you go....Picking 14 of 14 in Big Fantasy Draft on Monday

**MoneyLineDawg** · 08-25-13, 12:42 AM

Ideally and realistically I think we're hoping for Forte/ Chris Johnson but it's really tough

**easyliving** · 08-25-13, 12:45 AM

Forte is a no brainer he is no doubt 1 of your picks. As far as the 2nd pick if you feel comfortable taking the risk I'd roll the dice with MJD but Steven Jackson is probably the safer pick their. I simply do not trust Morrison as he is due for a major sophmore slump. I was really high on Johnson last year and owned him on a couple of teams and I've had it with him. Guy is on my no draft list and I simply will not draft him this year. Hopefully someone drops from the top and its an easier choice

**MoneyLineDawg** · 08-25-13, 12:51 AM

Originally posted by easyliving

Forte is a no brainer he is no doubt 1 of your picks. As far as the 2nd pick if you feel comfortable taking the risk I'd roll the dice with MJD but Steven Jackson is probably the safer pick their. I simply do not trust Morrison as he is due for a major sophmore slump. I was really high on Johnson last year and owned him on a couple of teams and I've had it with him. Guy is on my no draft list and I simply will not draft him this year. Hopefully someone drops from the top and its an easier choice

Agreed about Forte but he is probably the most likely of the guys I listed to be gone before us

Chris Johnson is a big risk, but could be a stud as well

I like Steven Jackson a little more than MJD right now but it keeps changing

Any love for Reggie Bush in a PPR here or is that a reach?

Would you definitely go Rb/RB? Brees/Rodgers or one of the top WR's?

**a4u2fear** · 08-25-13, 04:29 AM

WR/RB. Do not get a QB or you will be scraping for a WR later. You could possibly do WR/WR. I typically get the last pick in the first round and the year I took two awesome WRs while everyone else was taking RBs/QBs - my team couldn't be stopped because I had two of the best WRs and everyone else barely had 1.

You can always find RBs in later rounds and once the top 1-2 QBs are gone, the difference between 3rd and 12th best QBs is much less than the difference beteen the 3rd and 12th best WR

**biggerleaffan** · 08-25-13, 06:58 AM

Obviously wait until the lower rounds for QB and go back-to-back with 2. Maybe try to get 2 top 15 QB and play the favorable matchup each week

**k13** · 08-25-13, 07:23 AM

Should not be tough since all the overrated players will be going early thanks to last year.

**k13** · 08-25-13, 07:27 AM

I did a quick 14 team, "late" round mock.

1. Alfred Morris (Was - RB)
2. Aaron Rodgers (GB - QB)
3. Darren McFadden (Oak - RB)
4. Antonio Brown (Pit - WR)
5. Rob Gronkowski (NE - TE)

Was just playing around with mocks, could have Chris Johnson too or whoever, lots of choices.
No one knows what will happen this year, they are all drafting based on last year and potential.

**stikymess** · 08-25-13, 07:36 AM

Maybe I'm old school but I would still go Rb/Rb, I want two players that have at least the potential to touch the ball 20-25 times a game. A stud Wr is only a stud if the QB can get the ball to him, (see Larry Fitzgerald).

Plus is you pass on Rb's at 14 & 15 think how bad it will be in round 3 and 4.

Good luck.

**Monitor-Tan** · 08-25-13, 11:33 AM

GET WR/RB and you can get Deangelo williams later. he should have a descent year

**MoneyLineDawg** · 08-25-13, 11:57 AM

Thanks for your opinions.....Lots of people saying go WR/RB but by the time the draft comes back to us (Pick #41/#42) any decent RB is usually gone in the mock drafts I've done......So many WRs to target in the mid rounds as opposed to RBs

QB I would probably go on the way back in the 3rd or 4th round IF Peyton Manning falls......If not, will probably target Matt Ryan, RG3, or Kaepernick in the 5th/6th area

Only RB I really like in the 3rd or later is Gio Bernard, and maybe Deangelo Williams.........You can get stud WRs in this area

**MoneyLineDawg** · 08-25-13, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by stikymess

Maybe I'm old school but I would still go Rb/Rb, I want two players that have at least the potential to touch the ball 20-25 times a game. A stud Wr is only a stud if the QB can get the ball to him, (see Larry Fitzgerald).

Plus is you pass on Rb's at 14 & 15 think how bad it will be in round 3 and 4.

Good luck.

I didn't even think like this until I did a bunch of mock drafts....You're 100% right

**CMNoney** · 08-25-13, 12:33 PM

RB/RB

I would def grab Bush with one of the picks since it's a ppr league. Then take whoever is leftover from Forte/Jackson/Johnson.

**C-Gold** · 08-25-13, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg

Thanks for your opinions.....Lots of people saying go WR/RB but by the time the draft comes back to us (Pick #41/#42) any decent RB is usually gone in the mock drafts I've done......So many WRs to target in the mid rounds as opposed to RBs

QB I would probably go on the way back in the 3rd or 4th round IF Peyton Manning falls......If not, will probably target Matt Ryan, RG3, or Kaepernick in the 5th/6th area

Only RB I really like in the 3rd or later is Gio Bernard, and maybe Deangelo Williams.........You can get stud WRs in this area

I've been doing some 12 team mocks and I've seen it with my own 2 eyes. With your draft position you have to take 2 RBs in round 1/2. You've seen that RB talent dry up the next time the pick comes around.

What is round 1 going to look like? In a 12 team league pretty much all RBs and Calvin Johnson.

Round 2 split between Rbs, elite Wrs, maybe Jimmy Graham, maybe Aaron Rodgers & Brees.

If I were you I'd be targeting Bush since it is PPR, Chris Johnson, Steven Ridley and I'd consider David Wilson since he is going to be a very good player and you probably won't be there when you pick again. Yeah it's considered a "reach" but if you want to win you have to take some chances.

Also the mocks are different than the real thing. I've found people are more QB centric in "real life" drafts, especially the more squares in your league. If the guys are sharper it could be different but a solid QB is like a security blanket to a square. Keep in mind this is probably the deepest QB draft in fantasy football history.

In my mocks I love the value of Peyton Manning in round 4. I got RG3 in round 7 of a mock. I'd draft Matt Ryan, I think he does better than Tom Brady this year but I'd stay away from Colin Kaepernick.

Mid round RB's I like are A. Bradshaw, G. Bernard, and D. Richardson. I'd take a late round flyer on Bryce Brown or Roy helu depending on your bench size. Plenty of WRs in the mid rounds.

I like the value on Gronk, Owen Daniels and Brett Meyers at TE.

**BigSpoon** · 08-25-13, 01:09 PM

Agree with most people here who say you have to grab RB/RB.

Reggie Bush should be strongly considered with one of your picks in PPR. A reach maybe but there's no way you'll be able to get him on the way back for your 42nd/43rd picks. Has the potential to be better than Sproles.

**MoneyLineDawg** · 08-25-13, 01:16 PM

You guys really think Reggie Bush is a better option than Steven Jackson, Chris Johnson, and Matt Forte? I understand he's going to catch a lot of passes but will that make up for the lack of production in the running game compared to someone like Jackson?

David Wilson is solid but don't think he's quite on the level of those guys so we aren't really considering him.....Ridley also solid but I expect Vareen to be the pass catcher at the RB position

C-gold I like those 3 mid rounders at RB thanks

I actually like Reggie Bush but my partner is much higher on Jackson and Johnson

We both like Forte alot

**C-Gold** · 08-25-13, 02:10 PM

Forte

Year	Team	G	GS	Att	Yds	Avg	Lg	TD	20+	1st
2008	Chicago Bears	16	16	316	1238	3.9	50	8	8	63
2009	Chicago Bears	16	16	258	929	3.6	61	4	3	39
2010	Chicago Bears	16	16	237	1069	4.5	68	6	9	42
2011	Chicago Bears	12	12	203	997	4.9	46	3	12	40
2012	Chicago Bears	15	15	248	1094	4.4	46	5	6	45

I don't get all the excitement about Forte. He runs for 1,000 yards and gets 5 TDs. That's all he's done the last 4 years. Yeah he catches some passes, say he gets 1-2 extra receiving Tds but that's not that great for a 1st round pick.

Jackson

Rushing
Year	Team	G	GS	Att	Yds	Avg	Lg	TD	20+	1st
2004	St. Louis Rams	14	3	134	673	5.0	48	4	5	37
2005	St. Louis Rams	15	15	254	1046	4.1	51	8	6	50
2006	St. Louis Rams	16	16	346	1528	4.4	59	13	9	74
2007	St. Louis Rams	12	12	237	1002	4.2	54	5	8	36
2008	St. Louis Rams	12	11	253	1042	4.1	56	7	6	58
2009	St. Louis Rams	15	15	324	1416	4.4	58	4	10	61
2010	St. Louis Rams	16	16	330	1241	3.8	42	6	7	60
2011	St. Louis Rams	15	15	260	1145	4.4	47	5	6	50
2012	St. Louis Rams	16	16	258	1045	4.1	46	4	5	47

Jackson is going into his 10th year. He's huge. He's the size of a D-lineman now. He's had under 10 TD 6 years in a row. He runs for around 1100 yards and a hand full of Tds. I personally think D. Richardson was better than him last year and that's why the Rams were so quick to let him go. With that said Atlanta is a great team and he gets put into a great situation.

I am looking to pass on both Jackson & Forte. Tell me what I am missing, I don't like them.

Ridley

Rushing
Year	Team	G	GS	Att	Yds	Avg	Lg	TD	20+	1st
2011	New England Patriots	16	2	87	441	5.1	33	1	5	18
2012	New England Patriots	16	12	290	1263	4.4	41	12	6	82

He had 1250+ yards and 12 TD last year. Forte and Jackson haven't done that in 5+ seasons. Ridley also has much fresher legs. BB let him learn the system for 1 year and then they plugged him in and he worked. The Patriots have a lot of problems at WR and they are going to have to run the ball more. They have to. I'd take his fresh legs over both Jackson & Forte easily. It's a no brainer.

Johnson

Rushing
Year	Team	G	GS	Att	Yds	Avg	Lg	TD	20+	1st
2008	Tennessee Titans	15	14	251	1228	4.9	66	9	9	54
2009	Tennessee Titans	16	16	358	2006	5.6	91	14	22	79
2010	Tennessee Titans	16	16	316	1364	4.3	76	11	13	55
2011	Tennessee Titans	16	16	262	1047	4.0	48	4	11	47
2012	Tennessee Titans	16	15	276	1243	4.5	94	6	8	45

He's never run for under 1,000. He's had a 2,000 yard season. He was disappointing the last 2 years but he has the highest ceiling out there. His O-Line will be better. He had a long TD run in preseason and looked good. His head coach is a lineman and will want to run the ball. He could have some goal line carries taken away but I think Johnson is a great pick.

Wilson

Rushing
Year	Team	G	GS	Att	Yds	Avg	Lg	TD	20+	1st
2012	New York Giants	16	2	71	358	5.0	52	4	5	17

Kick Returns
Year	Team	G	No	Yds	Avg	Lg	TD	40+
2012	New York Giants	16	57	1533	26.9	97	1	7

David Wilson led the NFL in kick returns last year. He has big play ability. He has 1st round talent. The Giants are going to give him the ball and he's going to run for 1200+ yards. Brown could steal some goalline carries but I like Wilson a lot. Brown has nowhere near the natural ability that Wilson has. I'd rather have Wilson than Steven Jackson or Matt Forte. Wilson has fresh young legs and he's going to break out this year.

**C-Gold** · 08-25-13, 02:12 PM

I don't play PPR but Reggie Bush caught 88 balls his rookie year in New Orleans.

I'd expect him to have a career year this year.

Last year he had roughly 1,000 yards rushing with 6 TD. He caught 35 balls, 300 yards and 2 more TD.

He will catch a lot more balls this year. Let's say 50. 1300 total yards last year, let's say he gets 1600 this year. That's 1st round value.

**broadway6** · 08-25-13, 02:17 PM

go RB RB and hope you can pick between Morris, Forte, and Bush...

**Speedy88** · 08-25-13, 02:33 PM

Depends on what falls to you. I tell everyone this, but it is really hard to predict what positions you will draft until you actually see who falls to you on draft day. Whatever you do, get at least one RB in your first 2 picks. Personally, I'd go either RB/RB or RB/WR.

At picks 14 and 15 you'll likely be looking at RB's of Forte, Steven Jackson, Ridley, CJ2k, and MJD. Assuming your league isn't crazy about WR's, you should be able to choose from any of them except Calvin.

Assuming all those players I mentioned above are available, I'd probably try to get Forte and either Ridley or SJax. WR is just so deep this year you can find WR1 potential in the 4th round like Nicks, Bowe, or Reggie Wayne. I don't think you'll find any RB1 potential in the 4th round of a 14-teamer. Good luck on your draft, the high-stakes drafts are always the best.

**stevenash** · 08-25-13, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by a4u2fear

WR/RB. Do not get a QB or you will be scraping for a WR later. You could possibly do WR/WR. I typically get the last pick in the first round and the year I took two awesome WRs while everyone else was taking RBs/QBs - my team couldn't be stopped because I had two of the best WRs and everyone else barely had 1.

You can always find RBs in later rounds and once the top 1-2 QBs are gone, the difference between 3rd and 12th best QBs is much less than the difference beteen the 3rd and 12th best WR

Valuable advice, and spot on post.

I got 8th pick, I am hoping Megatron falls in my lap.
First 8 should be RB's.

If Megatron is gone by 14, snatch AJ Green if available.

**CMNoney** · 08-25-13, 05:29 PM

Bush has top 5 upside in PPR.

If he stays healthy, I can see him catching 70 balls.

Absolutely draft him with one of those 2 picks. It really isn't a reach either. Bush goes 12-20 in pretty much every serious fantasy ppr league.

**SCS** · 08-25-13, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by CMNoney

Bush has top 5 upside in PPR.

If he stays healthy, I can see him catching 70 balls.

Even this is a fairly conservative projection. IMO his likely number of number receptions in a 16-game season is closer to 85-90.

**k13** · 08-25-13, 05:48 PM

Steven Jackson is finished.

**biggerleaffan** · 08-25-13, 08:20 PM

Should go Ridley/Bush

**MoneyLineDawg** · 08-26-13, 02:59 PM

Draft kicked off today and is going throughout the day....we just took Chris Johnson and Reggie bush

Will look to target Peyton or the top wr/RB combo on the way back

We passed on jimmy graham, mjd, Wilson, and ridley

**MoneyLineDawg** · 08-26-13, 05:45 PM

Looking at picking up another RB possibly......Lacy, Wilson, McFadden, Lamar Miller, Gore, Bernard still there with about 8 picks to go till it gets to us at the end of the 3rd

Lots of WRs gone

**NYSportsGuy210** · 08-26-13, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg

In a high stakes 14 team league ($1000 buy in but most "teams" have 2 or 3 people/partners....it's really fun that way) and drafting live on Monday....Everyone knows what they're doing

Me and my partner have been doing a ton of 14 team mock drafts and it seems like we HAVE to go RB,RB with pick 14 and 15......There is simply nothing good at RB leftover when it comes all the way back to us the last pick of the 3rd round

It is a PPR league, and we start: QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, Flex, Flex

We figure that all RB's will be taken before us, definitely Calvin Johnson, and possibly Rodgers Brees or Jimmy Graham

The RB's we are looking at to be there when we pick back to back are possibly: Matt Forte, Alfred Morris, Reggie Bush, Steven Jackson, MoJo Drew, and Chris Johnson

Outside shot of Lynch or Richardson dropping but I doubt it

Have thought about something like AJ Green or Dez Bryant and the top RB on the board but definitely leaning RB/RB

How would you approach this, and who would you target?

It's pretty much a given you should go RB/RB at this stage of the game and just wait till round 6 to get Romo or Dalton as a QB. Alfred Morris is a top 6 RB and if you can get him and either Forte or MJD I would go for it. Since its a PPR league you might try to get Reggie Bush or Darren Sproles instead along with Alfred Morris.

**NYSportsGuy210** · 08-26-13, 05:59 PM

Seriously go Alfred Morris and Reggie Bush as your first two picks. If Alfred Morris is gone by then go....Reggie Bush and either Peyton Manning or Drew Brees or Randall Cobb and Reggie Bush. Swing back around get Matt Ryan and another stud WR.....round 5 get Giavanni Bernard (Bengals RB).

Bernard is this year's CJ Spiller. Then go either Witten or Seduck at TE in round 6.

**MoneyLineDawg** · 08-26-13, 08:40 PM

Got Aaron Rodgers Colston in rounds 3 and 4

A Rodgers
R Bush
Chris Johnson
Colston
Tavon Austin
Jermichael Finley
Michael Floyd
Mark Ingram
Reuben Randle
Bernard Pierce

So far.....14 team ppr

**Matt1144** · 08-26-13, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by a4u2fear

WR/RB. Do not get a QB or you will be scraping for a WR later. You could possibly do WR/WR. I typically get the last pick in the first round and the year I took two awesome WRs while everyone else was taking RBs/QBs - my team couldn't be stopped because I had two of the best WRs and everyone else barely had 1.

You can always find RBs in later rounds and once the top 1-2 QBs are gone, the difference between 3rd and 12th best QBs is much less than the difference beteen the 3rd and 12th best WR

I also LOVE Bush in a PPR. He will catch and beast in that dome. I'm in a 12 man and taking Foster 3rd pick and praying my idiot friends let Bush fall all the way back but I doubt it.

**ThaWoj** · 08-26-13, 09:54 PM

how did rodgers fall to round 3 in a 14 teamer? is it bc its ppr? gl with colston, as a diehard saints fan i think its a bad idea to take any saint wr or rb in early rounds because the saints have the most even ball distribution in the league. they like to use a 3 headed monster at rb and brees loves to spread the wealth to his receivers

i know its hard picking 14th. not fond of tavon austin (because of chris givens) and i hope for your sake that floyd will get some balls if the AZ OL can hold up. good luck bud.

**ChalkyDog** · 08-26-13, 09:55 PM

solid team for a 14 teamer, my main bench in my 14 team league consists of Greg Olson, and 6 backup RB's needing an injury to see time.

Auction, not snake. I spent my entire load on my starting roster.

**MoneyLineDawg** · 08-26-13, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by ThaWoj

how did rodgers fall to round 3 in a 14 teamer? is it bc its ppr? gl with colston, as a diehard saints fan i think its a bad idea to take any saint wr or rb in early rounds because the saints have the most even ball distribution in the league. they like to use a 3 headed monster at rb and brees loves to spread the wealth to his receivers

i know its hard picking 14th. not fond of tavon austin (because of chris givens) and i hope for your sake that floyd will get some balls if the AZ OL can hold up. good luck bud.

Colston has put up really solid numbers for like 5-6 years straight.....scores around 10 tds a year too

There were so many RBs and WRs gone by the time it came back to us at the bottom of the 3rd.....Guy before us took Peyton and we jumped on Aaron Rodgers

I didn't want Mark Ingram either but he looks good this preseason and fell so much.....no one else at RB

Really high on Tavon Austin.....think he's gunna get a ton of dump offs and screens which = points in ppr.....Always a threat to go the distance

Since then we have taken Jacoby Jones, Jeremy Kerley, Knowson Moreno (latest reports today say starting for the Broncos so nice flyer), and Tyler Eiffert.....Also Percy Harvin with the last pick in case he comes back.....Really deep bench

Wanted Ben Tate but got Bernard Pierce which was nice

I love my first few picks with Chris Johnson, Reggie Bush, and Aaron Rodgers but middle rounds were iffy

Still, think we can compete

**NYSportsGuy210** · 08-27-13, 08:37 AM

You're WR core is pretty weak. If you're smart you pick up Nate Washington off the waiver wire. Guy had a solid Pre season and will be in line for 5-6 catches a game 950 - 1000 yards receiving and 8-10 TDs this season.

He is Jake Lockers favorite and most dependable target.

Also Greg Little and Brian Hartline will be solid PPR low end flex contributors.