Shedeur Sanders now favored to go 9th. Took some going 4th.

[mjsuax13]

Reading some of these posts makes you realize why most people here lose all their money and end up prosecuting themselves for refills.

Nobody actually watches games, has any sense for data or stats, or any clue.

Its incresible. Truly incredible that people could say that a guy who was top 4 in every major statistical category which could be used in regression analysis to predict future qb success, is deemed "no talent"

What the **** games are these people watching lmaooooooo


I WILL REPEAT FOR YOU DEAD DUMB AND BLIND

1st in completion percentage Out of over 700 QBs in college football

2nd in touchdowns Out of over 700 QBs in college football

4th in paasing yards Out of over 700 QBs in college football

2nd in completions Out of over 700 QBs in college football

I watched his games. The kid can play. He made all
the throws. The knock is pocket presence and the sacks he was mostly responsible for. Thats hard to quantify though because that line was pretty bad. I think he will be a solid pro. I do think some of these organizations may not want to deal with Deion but oh well. I also think a few HC’s said no too because they are insecure about their own job status and think Deion will be replacing their ass.

Browns got a player, just not sure the Browns won’t mess it up! Going to be fun to see how it plays out.

[mjsuax13]

I think the transfer portal closed yesterday, so that’s another hurdle he would face. But why go to the NFL if your stock plummeted? You have no guaranteed money at this point and the salaries are pathetic. He doesn’t have to worry about money anyway but it seems to me that his daddy is the biggest problem. The sooner he can separate from his dad’s involvement, the better. I would make calls to Josh Heupel at UT and see if I can compete to start. Maybe go to a smaller tiered school like App State, who just lost their QB to Tennessee. He’s already been at 2 schools and performed well. Does he sit on some NFL team or should he play right now in college, not being coached by dad. His daddy is the ball and chain.

Because of the economics with NIL, I wouldn’t sign an agent until after the draft. You can always go back to Colorado too… either way- more pay in college than a 5th round pick.

[mjsuax13]

Mel Kiper knows absolutely nothing about college football.

Kiper needs to be removed from the building.

[stevenash]

Kiper needs to be removed from the building.

Kiper should develop some skills first before popping off.
The next time he laces up a pair of Nikes or spikes will be the first time.
He never played a down of football or an inning of baseball.

Kiper is nothing but a long-winded self-promoting gasbag, like Howard Stern or the late Rush Limbaugh.
Unlike Howard and Rush, Kiper's self-promoting skills aren't all that great either.

There's a certain amount of truth to the age-old adage "Those who can do, do; those who can't do teach."

[Mac4Lyfe]

What if SANDERS turned out to be a steal? Could be the guy, he has arm-talent.

Sanders was #5 on Kiper's board. Can't imagine that Mel ever whiffed by 140 slots on a top-pick.

I think getting him in the 5th round was the steal of the draft. He has 1st round talent but teams obviously didn’t want to deal with daddy. Now he can compete. The Browns will most likely keep 3 QBs (they have 5 now). He gives them another asset they can shop as teams get desperate for QB help. Keep Flacco, who can teach both rookies. Deal Pickett and release Watson. If Sanders has a bad attitude, you cut bait for very low risk. I like the pick. The Browns need to go through a hundred QBs until they find the one.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

I think getting him in the 5th round was the steal of the draft. He has 1st round talent but teams obviously didn’t want to deal with daddy. Now he can compete. The Browns will most likely keep 3 QBs (they have 5 now). He gives them another asset they can shop as teams get desperate for QB help. Keep Flacco, who can teach both rookies. Deal Pickett and release Watson. If Sanders has a bad attitude, you cut bait for very low risk. I like the pick. The Browns need to go through a hundred QBs until they find the one.

I like the pick. If anything, it's the VALUE-pick of the draft. How TF did Gabriel go b4 Sanders?

I've been waiting for the Browns to get good again. I'm hoping that he upgrades their QB play.

I now wonder about the Deion angle. Deion passed down ego to his son. But his son also saw his dad play as a professional. Maybe too much made out of it, I'll now be rooting for this guy. Go, Browns.

[stevenash]

QBs drafted in the fifth round have a combined record of 0-43 at starters since 1994.

[eberetta1]

Holds the ball too long is what probably dropped Sanders stock. Can you imagine paying double digit millions and getting sacked over 50 times in the NFL? By 300+lb tacklers. Too bih a risk. Now the Btowns can trade him up for another player.

[raiders72001]

A guy who has never had a single off field issue im his entire college career, and you're telling us he has off field issues?

Holy cow u guys are dumb as bricks

off field.

Although it will be hard to top what one longtime NFL assistant coach told NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero earlier this week, claiming Sanders was “the worst formal interview I’ve ever been in in my life”.

“He’s so entitled,” the coach added.

[raiders72001]

“Shedeur didn’t have a great interview with Brian Daboll in a private visit,” McShay said.

“An install package came in. Preparation wasn’t there for it. [He] got called out on it. Didn’t like that. Brian didn’t appreciate him not liking it.”

https://nypost.com/2025/04/26/sports...-in-nfl-draft/

[ChuckyTheGoat]

QBs drafted in the fifth round have a combined record of 0-43 at starters since 1994.

What a stat!

[ChuckyTheGoat]

off field.

Good post, Raid. I sensed that SOMETHING went south for this guy. The interview makes perfect sense.

Go back to the NEB game:
1) Sanders threw a gift pick-6 to NEB.
2) He threw his Off Linemen under the bus. Said that he was getting too much pressure. Compared it to the lack of pressure NEB QB Raiola was getting.

[ttwarrior1]

he was media driven. Just had a diff system. he's more of a statue than matt ryan or whoever. Takes too many sacks

[mjsuax13]

I think getting him in the 5th round was the steal of the draft. He has 1st round talent but teams obviously didn’t want to deal with daddy. Now he can compete. The Browns will most likely keep 3 QBs (they have 5 now). He gives them another asset they can shop as teams get desperate for QB help. Keep Flacco, who can teach both rookies. Deal Pickett and release Watson. If Sanders has a bad attitude, you cut bait for very low risk. I like the pick. The Browns need to go through a hundred QBs until they find the one.

Watson done for sure. Does he even have the desire to work to get back?

[mjsuax13]

https://nypost.com/2025/04/26/sports...-in-nfl-draft/

I wouldn’t want to do anything Daboll told me either. He will be gone in 8 months

[mjsuax13]

So much time spent on Sanders when Cam Ward has such a tremendous story of getting here. What a kid! I’m a huge fan. I hope he has great success.

[unusialsusp5]

Good post, Raid. I sensed that SOMETHING went south for this guy. The interview makes perfect sense.

Go back to the NEB game:
1) Sanders threw a gift pick-6 to NEB.
2) He threw his Off Linemen under the bus. Said that he was getting too much pressure. Compared it to the lack of pressure NEB QB Raiola was getting.

He throws the ball off his wrong foot. He does not know how to play the position.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

He throws the ball off his wrong foot. He does not know how to play the position.

Fair point. My counter would be that he had a lot of success. He destroyed TCU in 2023.

Guy had success. Colorado almost won the conference. Program had dramatic improvement in two years.

I'll stick with my opinion on over/under-reaction. This guy was rated as the #2 QB prospect. It's fair to peg him down on an interview, but How Much?

It's un-thinkable to me that Sanders was drafted after Gabriel. Gabriel is older and shorter. He lacks the arm-strength to cut through any wind.

I'd like to see a prop on who starts an NFL game first? I'd gladly take Sanders -110 over Gabriel.

[stevenash]

https://nypost.com/2025/04/26/sports...-in-nfl-draft/

We were talking about that on X last night.
And it wasn't just the Giants that Sanders screwed up the interview.
Several other front office types that were in the Sanders interviews all pretty much said the same thing.
"He's preoccupied, he's disinterested, yadda, yadda, yadda.

There's a pattern here, a trend if you will, Sanders comes across aloof to say the least.

That's the same Todd McShay, Mel Kiper bet that Jimmy Clausen would be a successful NFL QB.

Long story short, Kiper stiffed McShay.
(Why am I not surprised)

[Mac4Lyfe]

We were talking about that on X last night.
And it wasn't just the Giants that Sanders screwed up the interview.
Several other front office types that were in the Sanders interviews all pretty much said the same thing.
"He's preoccupied, he's disinterested, yadda, yadda, yadda.

There's a pattern here, a trend if you will, Sanders comes across aloof to say the least.

That's the same Todd McShay, Mel Kiper bet that Jimmy Clausen would be a successful NFL QB.

Long story short, Kiper stiffed McShay.
(Why am I not surprised)

Sanders could be a prima Donna but this should knock him down a peg. But you never know. The Sanders family is very polarizing. People either love them or hate them. I could see some front office folks not liking him before he interviewed and were already convinced he’s an asshole. If he felt some of those guys were pandering to him, maybe he wasn’t interested. Apparently Daboll gave him homework and he didn’t prepare. Maybe Sanders said Fukk it. I’m not in school anymore.

Folks shit on Deion all the time. Ive never heard a teammate of his crap on him. Flacons, braves, cowboy players all said he was a great locker room guy. A good teammate. I don’t see how that didn’t rub off on his son.

[unde0087]

Sanders could be a prima Donna but this should knock him down a peg. But you never know. The Sanders family is very polarizing. People either love them or hate them. I could see some front office folks not liking him before he interviewed and were already convinced he’s an asshole. If he felt some of those guys were pandering to him, maybe he wasn’t interested. Apparently Daboll gave him homework and he didn’t prepare. Maybe Sanders said Fukk it. I’m not in school anymore.

Folks shit on Deion all the time. Ive never heard a teammate of his crap on him. Flacons, braves, cowboy players all said he was a great locker room guy. A good teammate. I don’t see how that didn’t rub off on his son.

The kid needs to learn that just because his last name is Sanders doesn't mean anyone else gives a shit. Dion can play the arrogant card because he could always back it up with greatness. None of his kids are even close to that so when they act like that it just comes across to everyone else as the typical worthless brat spoon fed rich kid. No one wants to invest in that and sadly that is how he approached the draft. Doubt he learns anything from it. It is pretty telling the kid couldn't even put on a fake face to some teams for a few hours of his life to make millions. But fortunately, he won't ever have to worry about money regardless of if he succeeds or not.

[stevenash]

Sanders could be a prima Donna but this should knock him down a peg. But you never know. The Sanders family is very polarizing. People either love them or hate them. I could see some front office folks not liking him before he interviewed and were already convinced he’s an asshole. If he felt some of those guys were pandering to him, maybe he wasn’t interested. Apparently Daboll gave him homework and he didn’t prepare. Maybe Sanders said Fukk it. I’m not in school anymore.

Folks shit on Deion all the time. Ive never heard a teammate of his crap on him. Flacons, braves, cowboy players all said he was a great locker room guy. A good teammate. I don’t see how that didn’t rub off on his son.

I was always OK with Deion; he's like Chuck, he amuses me.
That's not a jab; Deion has a personality.
He did screw up that T-Mac post game presser when he was with the Braves, but my shit stinks at times too, I can't remember how many times I wish I took the high road in retrodpect.

I've said this several times, I was never pissed at Deion and son at Colorado, I was pissed about the over the top network coverage, and Fox/FS1 was just as bad as ESPN with the hyperbole, if not worse.

Nick Wright, for instance, wouldn't STFU for weeks.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

I was always OK with Deion; he's like Chuck, he amuses me.
That's not a jab; Deion has a personality.
He did screw up that T-Mac post game presser when he was with the Braves, but my shit stinks at times too, I can't remember how many times I wish I took the high road in retrodpect.

I've said this several times, I was never pissed at Deion and son at Colorado, I was pissed about the over the top network coverage, and Fox/FS1 was just as bad as ESPN with the hyperbole, if not worse.

Nick Wright, for instance, wouldn't STFU for weeks.

I'm here to amuse YOU? WTF's so funny about me?

[ByeShea]

Sanders could be a prima Donna but this should knock him down a peg. But you never know. The Sanders family is very polarizing. People either love them or hate them. I could see some front office folks not liking him before he interviewed and were already convinced he’s an asshole. If he felt some of those guys were pandering to him, maybe he wasn’t interested. Apparently Daboll gave him homework and he didn’t prepare. Maybe Sanders said Fukk it. I’m not in school anymore.

Folks shit on Deion all the time. Ive never heard a teammate of his crap on him. Flacons, braves, cowboy players all said he was a great locker room guy. A good teammate. I don’t see how that didn’t rub off on his son.

I don’t think this experience will knock him down a peg and, frankly, I don’t think he needs to be knocked down a peg.

The bottom line is that Shedeur was raised to take football as serious as a heart attack … and it’s been clear to me when I watched him play - saw him a lot. He is an awesome passer, prob the best I’ve seen since FSU’s Charlie Ward.

Can’t guarantee any college QB success in the NFL, but I think the Browns selecting Sanders in the 5th round has a very real potential to undo the damage done from the Watson debacle.

[2Sweeet]

Reading some of these posts makes you realize why most people here lose all their money and end up prosecuting themselves for refills.

Nobody actually watches games, has any sense for data or stats, or any clue.

Its incresible. Truly incredible that people could say that a guy who was top 4 in every major statistical category which could be used in regression analysis to predict future qb success, is deemed "no talent"

What the **** games are these people watching lmaooooooo


I WILL REPEAT FOR YOU DEAD DUMB AND BLIND

1st in completion percentage Out of over 700 QBs in college football

2nd in touchdowns Out of over 700 QBs in college football

4th in paasing yards Out of over 700 QBs in college football

2nd in completions Out of over 700 QBs in college football

Now tell us how much money you lost on Taking this No Talent Bum to go Top 3 First, then Pounded Under 8.5.. As my girl goes and fcks another BBC. Clown show.

[2Sweeet]

What if SANDERS turned out to be a steal? Could be the guy, he has arm-talent.

Sanders was #5 on Kiper's board. Can't imagine that Mel ever whiffed by 140 slots on a top-pick.

I can Mel just did it 3 days ago. Sandy won't be in the USFL 3 years from now let alone the NFL he will be on Maclyfes 4thanddumb and your TIKTOK throwing to his other Brother in Daddy's back yard. Facts. Now that's Legendary son.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I don’t think this experience will knock him down a peg and, frankly, I don’t think he needs to be knocked down a peg.

The bottom line is that Shedeur was raised to take football as serious as a heart attack … and it’s been clear to me when I watched him play - saw him a lot. He is an awesome passer, prob the best I’ve seen since FSU’s Charlie Ward.

Can’t guarantee any college QB success in the NFL, but I think the Browns selecting Sanders in the 5th round has a very real potential to undo the damage done from the Watson debacle.

I don’t care who you are. When you think you’re going to be selected in the top 10 of the draft and you fall out of the top 10, top 50, top 100. you realize that you are not as important as you think you are. You realize you need to work for everything ahead of you. You are no longer entitled. I like the guy. I’m a Browns fan so I hope it works out. But for whatever reason, he needs to retool his image. A lot of people do not like him. I don’t know why but it doesn’t matter. Front offices are not going to put up with a lot of bullshit unless he balls out and is winning games.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

I don’t care who you are. When you think you’re going to be selected in the top 10 of the draft and you fall out of the top 10, top 50, top 100. you realize that you are not as important as you think you are. You realize you need to work for everything ahead of you. You are no longer entitled. I like the guy. I’m a Browns fan so I hope it works out. But for whatever reason, he needs to retool his image. A lot of people do not like him. I don’t know why but it doesn’t matter. Front offices are not going to put up with a lot of bullshit unless he balls out and is winning games.

Mac, I'm with you. People are overly reactionary.

If he was drafted top 3, I thought that would be too high. So, good value would be around #10. Crazy to think he fell out of the top 100.

One name sticks out as a parallel. Aaron Rodgers was behind Alex Smith. The scouts thought he was a little too full of himself, so he fell. How did that work out?

[JAKEPEAVY21]

All these people that were so shocked that he fell are not thinking or seeing clearly...similar to faction of Democrats that can't figure out why they lost the last election. There were red flags everywhere with Sanders...his father and the circus that he might bring along to whatever team drafts him, his arrogance(there's a big difference between cocky and arrogant), he threw teammates under the bus numerous times, playing for his father his whole life and probably not being prepared/willing to join a strict/tighter football program, calling himself legendary and having that plastered all over the walls(he thinks he is a much bigger deal than he is)...

His talent does not match up with all the hype he got either...he is a good QB and I will give him credit that he throws a nice ball and is tough as nails....however, he holds the ball too long, takes too many sacks amongst other things.
Then also Deion and him trying to orchestrate where he got drafted and telling certain teams they are not interested etc...they essentially took at least half the teams out of the running to draft him, probably closer to 80-90%...you want options in life in most cases, no? They cut off most of their options thinking they were all that...let's see what he does after getting humbled so badly.