Math Tip for converting between decimal and american odds

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  • pico
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 04-05-07
    • 27321

    #1
    Math Tip for converting between decimal and american odds
    american odds is pretty easy. +130 means you win 130 for 100 wager, and -140 means you win 100 for 140 wager.

    the formula to convert it to decimal odds is for all plus money odds, you just add 100 and divide it by 100. for example, +130 will be 2.30 in decimal odds.

    for minus money, the math gets a bit harder. divid it by 100, take the inverse and add 1. for example, -140 will be 1.71 in decimal pricing.

    as you can see it is pretty easy to go back and forth for plus money odds, but the real question is how do you convert minus money odds in your head? (don't really want to keep my spreadsheet open everytime i want to make a bet)

    does anyone know the rational behind the decimal system? i am still puzzled why 2 is the even money bet? why don't they make 1 the even money bet, so you don't have to add one when you go from american to decimal.
  • tribet
    SBR High Roller
    • 08-12-06
    • 171

    #2
    The rational behind decimals is that it is simple and the accepted notation in most countries why bother with strange American odds when you can stick t decimals.
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    • 20Four7
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 04-08-07
      • 6703

      #3
      I prefer american odds as that's what I have always known. I rarely have to convert between them but if I do I just use this
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      • Ganchrow
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-28-05
        • 5011

        #4
        Originally posted by picoman
        american odds is pretty easy. +130 means you win 130 for 100 wager, and -140 means you win 100 for 140 wager.

        the formula to convert it to decimal odds is for all plus money odds, you just add 100 and divide it by 100. for example, +130 will be 2.30 in decimal odds.

        for minus money, the math gets a bit harder. divid it by 100, take the inverse and add 1. for example, -140 will be 1.71 in decimal pricing.
        To make it explicit:

        For US odds ≤ -100:
        Code:
                               100
        Decimal odds = 1 - -----------
        		     US Odds
        For US odds ≥ +100:
        Code:
                             US Odds
        Decimal odds = 1 + -----------
        		       100
        And to convert from decimal to US:
        Code:
        For decimal odds [hcc]ge[/hcc] 2: US = 100[hcc]times[/hcc](decimal-1)
        
        For decimal odds < 2: US = [frac=-100](decimal-1)[/frac]
        Originally posted by picoman
        does anyone know the rational behind the decimal system? i am still puzzled why 2 is the even money bet? why don't they make 1 the even money bet, so you don't have to add one when you go from american to decimal.
        The rationale is rather straightforward. Decimal odds represent the dollar amount returned to you on a win off a 1-unit bet including your original stake. For example:
        • If decimal odds were 2.00 (US: +100), this would mean that if you were to bet $1.00 and win you'd be returned $2.00 ($1.00 in winnings plus your $1 original bet).
        • If decimal odds were 1.50 (US: -200), this would mean that if you were to bet $1.00 and win you'd be returned $1.50 ($0.50 in winnings plus your $1 original bet).
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        • Ganchrow
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-28-05
          • 5011

          #5
          Originally posted by 20Four7
          I prefer american odds as that's what I have always known. I rarely have to convert between them but if I do I just use this
          http://www.smartcapper.com/cgi-bin/b...=D&dec_odds=10
          You could also use my odds converter (and the other betting tools) available here: SBR Betting Tools.
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          • BuddyBear
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-10-05
            • 7233

            #6
            Usually sportsbooks have a feature that allows you to select one or the other....
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            • WWTSblows
              SBR High Roller
              • 10-14-06
              • 161

              #7
              Not always though. For the negative ones, I have the same system you do. I use a calculator on my desk for those.

              If you are good at math, you can use that way to get close. Like knowing 14 goes into 100 roughly 7 times can get you to -170 in your head.
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              • pico
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 04-05-07
                • 27321

                #8
                thank ganchrow

                is there anything you don't know about gambling? maybe i should just hire you as a consultant when i have a sizable amount of gambling money.
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                • Scorpion
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-04-05
                  • 7797

                  #9
                  How about a formula for converting Fraction odds to US odds?
                  I know you can convert Fraction to Decimal and then to US
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                  • Ganchrow
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 08-28-05
                    • 5011

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Scorpion
                    How about a formula for converting Fraction odds to US odds?
                    I know you can convert Fraction to Decimal and then to US
                    Yeah, that's exactly it:

                    Code:
                    fractional = decimal - 1
                    Hence, to convert from fractional to US odds:
                    Code:
                    For fractional odds [hcc]ge[/hcc] 1: US = 100[hcc]times[/hcc]fractional
                    
                    For fractional odds < 1: US = [frac=-100]fractional[/frac]
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                    • RogueJuror
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 07-08-08
                      • 10010

                      #11
                      Ganchrow incorporate Indonesian, Malysian, HK odds in your odds converter calc and then it'll be the complete package. I'll tout it all over asia if you do, an easy way to double the traffic. If you need the math equations just PM me.


                      Code:
                      Indo Odds	Malay Odds	HK/ Decimal			
                      -1.01	-1.04	0.99	0.96	1.99	1.96
                      -1.02	-1.03	0.98	0.97	1.98	1.97
                      -1.03	-1.02	0.97	0.98	1.97	1.98
                      -1.04	-1.01	0.96	0.99	1.96	1.99
                      -1.05	-1.00	0.95	1.00	1.95	2.00
                      -1.06	1.01	0.94	-0.99	1.94	2.01
                      -1.07	1.02	0.93	-0.98	1.93	2.02
                      -1.08	1.02	0.93	-0.98	1.93	2.02
                      -1.09	1.03	0.92	-0.97	1.92	2.03
                      -1.10	1.04	0.91	-0.96	1.91	2.04
                      -1.11	1.05	0.90	-0.95	1.90	2.05
                      -1.12	1.06	0.89	-0.94	1.89	2.06
                      -1.13	1.07	0.88	-0.93	1.88	2.07
                      -1.14	1.08	0.88	-0.93	1.88	2.08
                      -1.15	1.09	0.87	-0.92	1.87	2.09
                      -1.16	1.10	0.86	-0.91	1.86	2.10
                      -1.17	1.11	0.85	-0.90	1.85	2.11
                      -1.18	1.11	0.85	-0.90	1.85	2.11
                      -1.19	1.12	0.84	-0.89	1.84	2.12
                      -1.20	1.13	0.83	-0.88	1.83	2.13
                      -1.21	1.14	0.83	-0.88	1.83	2.14
                      -1.22	1.15	0.82	-0.87	1.82	2.15
                      -1.23	1.16	0.81	-0.86	1.81	2.16
                      -1.24	1.17	0.81	-0.86	1.81	2.17
                      -1.25	1.18	0.80	-0.85	1.80	2.18
                      -1.26	1.19	0.79	-0.84	1.79	2.19
                      -1.27	1.19	0.79	-0.84	1.79	2.19
                      -1.28	1.20	0.78	-0.83	1.78	2.20
                      -1.29	1.21	0.78	-0.83	1.78	2.21
                      -1.30	1.22	0.77	-0.82	1.77	2.22
                      -1.31	1.23	0.76	-0.81	1.76	2.23
                      -1.32	1.24	0.76	-0.81	1.76	2.24
                      -1.33	1.25	0.75	-0.80	1.75	2.25
                      -1.34	1.26	0.75	-0.80	1.75	2.26
                      -1.35	1.26	0.74	-0.79	1.74	2.26
                      -1.36	1.27	0.74	-0.79	1.74	2.27
                      -1.37	1.28	0.73	-0.78	1.73	2.28
                      -1.38	1.29	0.72	-0.77	1.72	2.29
                      -1.39	1.30	0.72	-0.77	1.72	2.30
                      -1.40	1.31	0.71	-0.76	1.71	2.31
                      -1.41	1.32	0.71	-0.76	1.71	2.32
                      -1.42	1.33	0.70	-0.75	1.70	2.33
                      -1.43	1.33	0.70	-0.75	1.70	2.33
                      -1.44	1.34	0.69	-0.74	1.69	2.34
                      -1.45	1.35	0.69	-0.74	1.69	2.35
                      -1.46	1.36	0.68	-0.73	1.68	2.36
                      -1.47	1.37	0.68	-0.73	1.68	2.37
                      -1.48	1.38	0.68	-0.73	1.68	2.38
                      -1.49	1.39	0.67	-0.72	1.67	2.39
                      -1.50	1.40	0.67	-0.72	1.67	2.40
                      -1.51	1.40	0.66	-0.71	1.66	2.40
                      -1.52	1.41	0.66	-0.71	1.66	2.41
                      -1.53	1.42	0.65	-0.70	1.65	2.42
                      -1.54	1.43	0.65	-0.70	1.65	2.43
                      -1.55	1.44	0.65	-0.70	1.65	2.44
                      -1.56	1.45	0.64	-0.69	1.64	2.45
                      -1.57	1.46	0.64	-0.69	1.64	2.46
                      -1.58	1.46	0.63	-0.68	1.63	2.46
                      -1.59	1.47	0.63	-0.68	1.63	2.47
                      -1.60	1.48	0.63	-0.68	1.63	2.48
                      -1.61	1.49	0.62	-0.67	1.62	2.49
                      -1.62	1.50	0.62	-0.67	1.62	2.50
                      -1.63	1.51	0.61	-0.66	1.61	2.51
                      -1.64	1.52	0.61	-0.66	1.61	2.52
                      -1.65	1.52	0.61	-0.66	1.61	2.52
                      -1.66	1.53	0.60	-0.65	1.60	2.53
                      -1.67	1.54	0.60	-0.65	1.60	2.54
                      -1.68	1.55	0.60	-0.65	1.60	2.55
                      -1.69	1.56	0.59	-0.64	1.59	2.56
                      -1.70	1.57	0.59	-0.64	1.59	2.57
                      -1.71	1.58	0.58	-0.63	1.58	2.58
                      -1.72	1.58	0.58	-0.63	1.58	2.58
                      -1.73	1.59	0.58	-0.63	1.58	2.59
                      -1.74	1.60	0.57	-0.62	1.57	2.60
                      -1.75	1.61	0.57	-0.62	1.57	2.61
                      -1.76	1.62	0.57	-0.62	1.57	2.62
                      -1.77	1.63	0.56	-0.61	1.56	2.63
                      -1.78	1.63	0.56	-0.61	1.56	2.63
                      -1.79	1.64	0.56	-0.61	1.56	2.64
                      -1.80	1.65	0.56	-0.61	1.56	2.65
                      -1.81	1.66	0.55	-0.60	1.55	2.66
                      -1.82	1.67	0.55	-0.60	1.55	2.67
                      -1.83	1.68	0.55	-0.60	1.55	2.68
                      -1.84	1.68	0.54	-0.59	1.54	2.68
                      -1.85	1.69	0.54	-0.59	1.54	2.69
                      -1.86	1.70	0.54	-0.59	1.54	2.70
                      -1.87	1.71	0.53	-0.58	1.53	2.71
                      -1.88	1.72	0.53	-0.58	1.53	2.72
                      -1.89	1.73	0.53	-0.58	1.53	2.73
                      -1.90	1.74	0.53	-0.58	1.53	2.74
                      -1.91	1.74	0.52	-0.57	1.52	2.74
                      -1.92	1.75	0.52	-0.57	1.52	2.75
                      -1.93	1.76	0.52	-0.57	1.52	2.76
                      -1.94	1.77	0.52	-0.57	1.52	2.77
                      -1.95	1.78	0.51	-0.56	1.51	2.78
                      -1.96	1.79	0.51	-0.56	1.51	2.79
                      -1.97	1.79	0.51	-0.56	1.51	2.79
                      -1.98	1.80	0.51	-0.56	1.51	2.80
                      -1.99	1.81	0.50	-0.55	1.50	2.81
                      -2.00	1.82	0.50	-0.55	1.50	2.82

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                      • Ganchrow
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-28-05
                        • 5011

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RogueJuror
                        Ganchrow incorporate Indonesian, Malysian, HK odds in your odds converter calc and then it'll be the complete package. I'll tout it all over asia if you do, an easy way to double the traffic. If you need the math equations just PM me.
                        Seems easy enough.

                        I'll add these in the next few days.
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                        • louisvillekid
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 08-14-07
                          • 9254

                          #13
                          whats the math for odds like 10/11 or 9/5, how do i make that an American line?
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                          • chandler1981
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 11-18-07
                            • 422

                            #14
                            LK,
                            just divide it and turn it into a decimal odd and then follow Gaunch's formula to make it american.
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                            • louisvillekid
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 08-14-07
                              • 9254

                              #15
                              Originally posted by chandler1981
                              LK,
                              just divide it and turn it into a decimal odd and then follow Gaunch's formula to make it american.
                              ok, i've been meaning to make myself a little chart with the 3 different odds.
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                              • Scorpion
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-04-05
                                • 7797

                                #16
                                Originally posted by RogueJuror
                                Ganchrow incorporate Indonesian, Malysian, HK odds in your odds converter calc and then it'll be the complete package. I'll tout it all over asia if you do, an easy way to double the traffic. If you need the math equations just PM me.


                                [CODE]Indo Odds Malay Odds HK/ Decimal
                                -
                                please post the formulas for these

                                I mean to convert them to US odds
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                                • HedgeHog
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 09-11-07
                                  • 10128

                                  #17
                                  If the damn Europeans would stick with the American measurement system, then everything would be fine. Give 'em an inch and they'll take a kilometer.
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                                  • durito
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 07-03-06
                                    • 13173

                                    #18
                                    you can use ganch's excel tools to convert odds

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                                    • woodg8
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 06-21-08
                                      • 1349

                                      #19
                                      American odds are possibly the most pointless odds format there is. Decimals are much more informative and easier to use. The only time I need to convert to American odds is when I post in the Best Bets threads.
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                                      • TheCalculator
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 10-10-11
                                        • 1683

                                        #20
                                        Does anyone know the formula for converting % of wins into American odds or Fractionated odds?

                                        e.g.
                                        58.02% - Team 1
                                        41.98% - Team 2

                                        Thanks!
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                                        • a4u2fear
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-29-10
                                          • 8147

                                          #21
                                          for clarification, for decimale < 2, US = -100 / (decimal-1)

                                          division was missing.
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388189

                                            #22
                                            Still to complicated

                                            Fractional odds much easier or Hong Kong Odds
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                                            • mathdotcom
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 03-24-08
                                              • 11689

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by pico
                                              american odds is pretty easy. +130 means you win 130 for 100 wager, and -140 means you win 100 for 140 wager.

                                              the formula to convert it to decimal odds is for all plus money odds, you just add 100 and divide it by 100. for example, +130 will be 2.30 in decimal odds.

                                              for minus money, the math gets a bit harder. divid it by 100, take the inverse and add 1. for example, -140 will be 1.71 in decimal pricing.

                                              as you can see it is pretty easy to go back and forth for plus money odds, but the real question is how do you convert minus money odds in your head? (don't really want to keep my spreadsheet open everytime i want to make a bet)

                                              does anyone know the rational behind the decimal system? i am still puzzled why 2 is the even money bet? why don't they make 1 the even money bet, so you don't have to add one when you go from american to decimal.
                                              Is this the best an asian can do?
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