Is There Any Way the Falcons Don't Win the NFC South this year?

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  • Eddy Munny
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    • 08-13-13
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    #1
    Is There Any Way the Falcons Don't Win the NFC South this year?
    Who's gonna push them? The Bucs hit their ceiling last year and are due to regress, the Panthers had to much of a gap to close for them to be competitive, and I don't know that the Saints made any radical improvements although they'd be the team most likely to bag the division if ATL doesn't.
  • JIBBBY
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    • 12-10-09
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    #2
    Falcons suck and will continue to suck. That's all I have to say about that.
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    • veriableodds
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      • 08-22-17
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      #3
      Time to spend a $1 at the five and dime.
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      • Eddy Munny
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        • 08-13-13
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        #4
        Originally posted by JIBBBY
        Falcons suck and will continue to suck. That's all I have to say about that.
        And yet that's not a death knell in a division full of teams who suck. Welcome to the NFC South.
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        • DrunkHorseplayer
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          #5
          How do you figure that the Bucs should regress? Teams' fortunes change radically on a regular basis. Don't get caught with a bad case of Cousinsitis; I wouldn't lay anything more than around -150.
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          • ThaTopMoron
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            • 04-30-10
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            #6
            Cousins career will be plagued with injuries till he retires

            heard it here first

            we will come back to this thread in a few years to reflect

            just kidding... SBR won't exist in 3 years
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            • Shute
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              • 03-20-17
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              #7
              Worst division in NFL
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              • johnnyvegas13
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                #8
                Only thing u can say for sure is panthers won’t b in it
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                • johnnyvegas13
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                  #9
                  And why r we talking football in April ???
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                  • Eddy Munny
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
                    How do you figure that the Bucs should regress? Teams' fortunes change radically on a regular basis. Don't get caught with a bad case of Cousinsitis; I wouldn't lay anything more than around -150.
                    I was higher than 99% of the populace on the Bucs last year. They really didn't catch me by surprise. They're not a perennial playoff team just because they stole one last year. Godwin is always injured, Evans is a year older, Lavonte David is ancient, Devin White was traded etc.

                    You just said teams's fortunes change radically on a regular basis. Why couldn't that apply to the Falcons? Their biggest shortcoming last year was that they had a Group of 5 quarterback pretending to be an NFL quarterback, to the detriment of the entire organization. Regardless of what you think of Cousins, it's an upgrade. Also a new coach and top 8 pick in the draft to go along with some very special skill talent already on the roster.
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                    • hawkwind
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                      • 04-25-11
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                      #11
                      YES
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                      • johnnyvegas13
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                        #12
                        If ur gonna talk football in April at least discuss the draft

                        in Detroit this year …
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                        • DrunkHorseplayer
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                          I was higher than 99% of the populace on the Bucs last year. They really didn't catch me by surprise. They're not a perennial playoff team just because they stole one last year. Godwin is always injured, Evans is a year older, Lavonte David is ancient, Devin White was traded etc.

                          You just said teams's fortunes change radically on a regular basis. Why couldn't that apply to the Falcons? Their biggest shortcoming last year was that they had a Group of 5 quarterback pretending to be an NFL quarterback, to the detriment of the entire organization. Regardless of what you think of Cousins, it's an upgrade. Also a new coach and top 8 pick in the draft to go along with some very special skill talent already on the roster.
                          Of course it could apply to the Falcons but also everyone else; the NFC East went several years in a row where 9-7 and 10-6 were winning the title then in 2022, it had the best record in the NFL. Not sayng that Atlanta isn't the best team in the division but if you think there's no way they lose it, you're way wrong.
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                          • stevenash
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                            Who's gonna push them? The Bucs hit their ceiling last year and are due to regress, the Panthers had to much of a gap to close for them to be competitive, and I don't know that the Saints made any radical improvements although they'd be the team most likely to bag the division if ATL doesn't.
                            Colin Cowherd has been pretty much saying the same thing for the past two weeks.

                            Cousins is the perfect fit there with that elite offensive line.
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                            • asiagambler
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by stevenash
                              Colin Cowherd has been pretty much saying the same thing for the past two weeks.

                              Cousins is the perfect fit there with that elite offensive line.
                              And hopefully a coach/OC that knows how to use their skill players ...
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                              • gauchojake
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                                #16
                                Despite my initial dislike of Morris as the Rams DC, he really grew on me. I think he learned a lot from McVay and the Rams org and hope he does well. Not sure I would be laying 150 for a Division future
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                                • Eddy Munny
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                                  • 08-13-13
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
                                  Of course it could apply to the Falcons but also everyone else; the NFC East went several years in a row where 9-7 and 10-6 were winning the title then in 2022, it had the best record in the NFL. Not sayng that Atlanta isn't the best team in the division but if you think there's no way they lose it, you're way wrong.
                                  Yes, but there are reasons why teams experience a turnaround. It's not just because they drew the long straw or that Saturn is in retrograde. Changes made in the off-season culminate in outcomes in September-December.

                                  I'm simply positing that the Falcons look like the team to beat in the division and gave a few reasons why... I never suggested anyone else winning would be the upset of the century.

                                  You're more than welcome to provide reasons for the other teams, that's kind of the point of this thread... So far you've only offered up coach speak and platitudes. This a gambling forum, not a cliche contest.
                                  Last edited by Eddy Munny; 04-12-24, 03:42 PM.
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                                  • JIBBBY
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                                    #18
                                    Falcons might finish last in the division. I'd bet on that before them winning the division. That's just my take with all due respect.
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                                    • Eddy Munny
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                      Falcons might finish last in the division. I'd bet on that before them winning the division. That's just my take with all due respect.
                                      If they take Rome Odunze or another top flight WR in the first round, the offense takes a quantum leap forward... I don't think people understand how much Ridder handicapped the offense. Guy wasn't even that good in the AAC or whatever conference Cincy plays in.
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                                      • Enkhbat
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                                        • 04-18-11
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                                        #20
                                        There is definitely a way, Cousins almost always seems to find a way to choke in big games.
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                                        • DrunkHorseplayer
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                          Yes, but there are reasons why teams experience a turnaround. It's not just because they drew the long straw or that Saturn is in retrograde. Changes made in the off-season culminate in outcomes in September-December.

                                          I'm simply positing that the Falcons look like the team to beat in the division and gave a few reasons why... I never suggested anyone else winning would be the upset of the century.

                                          You're more than welcome to provide reasons for the other teams, that's kind of the point of this thread... So far you've only offered up coach speak and platitudes. This a gambling forum, not a cliche contest.
                                          The title of the thread indicates that you'd be shocked if anyone else won it. It's laughable that you throw out cliches like "draw the long straw" and "Saturn in retrograde" then criticize cliches.
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                                          • Eddy Munny
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
                                            The title of the thread indicates that you'd be shocked if anyone else won it. It's laughable that you throw out cliches like "draw the long straw" and "Saturn in retrograde" then criticize cliches.
                                            Is English your second language or something? The title is somewhat of a rhetorical question meant to instigate discussion. Yes, I believe the Falcons are at the the head of the class, but it's not ironclad. The current odds are -110 which is the equivalent of your standard straight wager.

                                            When I mentioned platitudes, it was to point out that you're leaning on insubstantial commentary on the general landscape of sportsbetting rather than anything specific to the topic. I highlighted a few reasons why the Falcons could take the division, and you've countered with nothing but empty blather i.e. the recent history of the NFC East.

                                            There's a reason why some teams improve while others regress, and others yet more or less stay the same. Therein lies the game. All you've pretty much done is warn me against making a decision, but all you can muster in the way of counterpoint is "well, uh, it's a crapshoot and stuff." Yeah, it's gambling. You're not breaking news.
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                                            • lakerboy
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                                              • 04-02-09
                                              • 94363

                                              #23
                                              The obsession with the NFL is unreal. It's April. Who gives a shit who wins the NFC South?

                                              We have NBA and NHL playoffs coming up.
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                                              • Eddy Munny
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                The obsession with the NFL is unreal. It's April. Who gives a shit who wins the NFC South?

                                                We have NBA and NHL playoffs coming up.
                                                So where's your NBA and NHL playoff threads? Until then, I guess you and Johnny will have to find a way to get through life knowing that someone is talking football in April. It's a tough world out there.
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                                                • lakerboy
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                                                  • 04-02-09
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                                  So where's your NBA and NHL playoff threads? Until then, I guess you and Johnny will have to find a way to get through life knowing that someone is talking football in April. It's a tough world out there.
                                                  I already made one. Keep focused on the NFC trash south.

                                                  You can chime in with your NBA picks in it.
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                                                  • Eddy Munny
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                    I already made one. Keep focused on the NFC trash south.

                                                    You can chime in with your NBA picks in it.
                                                    "The playoffs are almost here..." Wow, scintillating stuff there, Laker. You really showed me.

                                                    You call the NFC South trash as if that's throwing shade. I couldn't care less. I'll raise you tenfold and call the entire league trash.
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                                                    • DrunkHorseplayer
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                                      Is English your second language or something? The title is somewhat of a rhetorical question meant to instigate discussion. Yes, I believe the Falcons are at the the head of the class, but it's not ironclad. The current odds are -110 which is the equivalent of your standard straight wager.

                                                      When I mentioned platitudes, it was to point out that you're leaning on insubstantial commentary on the general landscape of sportsbetting rather than anything specific to the topic. I highlighted a few reasons why the Falcons could take the division, and you've countered with nothing but empty blather i.e. the recent history of the NFC East.

                                                      There's a reason why some teams improve while others regress, and others yet more or less stay the same. Therein lies the game. All you've pretty much done is warn me against making a decision, but all you can muster in the way of counterpoint is "well, uh, it's a crapshoot and stuff." Yeah, it's gambling. You're not breaking news.
                                                      The title means exactly what it says and you sound like a foolish tout trying to make people think you know football. FYI, it IS a crapshoot because the division is ostensibly so damn weak.
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                                                      • Eddy Munny
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
                                                        The title means exactly what it says and you sound like a foolish tout trying to make people think you know football. FYI, it IS a crapshoot because the division is ostensibly so damn weak.
                                                        You're triggered over nothing. Wow, someone has an opinion... call the cops!

                                                        I guess I'm supposed to believe you know more about football, then huh? Could've fooled me, considering you've issued one nothing burger after another like you're a fast food chain at lunch hour. You know enough to declare I know nothing yet all you've said about football is something about a completely different division in completely different years.

                                                        Well done.

                                                        Let's be honest for a second. You've already showed your hand in several threads before, and this one is merely a continuation of that same disposition you've previously demonstrated... You're an oldhead who is constantly bemoaning the state of gambling as it's become more difficult to handicap. Sorry boomer, change happens.

                                                        Like Brad Pitt said in Moneyball "adapt or die." Sounds like you're leaning towards the latter.
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                                                        • actiondan
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                                                          #29
                                                          will be betting darnell mooney props. not interested in falcons at a minus price though.
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                                                          • Eddy Munny
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by actiondan
                                                            will be betting darnell mooney props. not interested in falcons at a minus price though.
                                                            My guess is that they'll take a high upside WR with the 8th pick to pair opposite London. They need a defensive end too so they could opt to go that route.
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                                                            • asiagambler
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                                                              #31
                                                              Falcons finished 3rd in the division right ?

                                                              They should have a favourable schedule
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                                                              • Eddy Munny
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                                                                #32
                                                                I think the Panthers might actually be the 2nd best team in the division but we'll have to see how the draft shakes out.
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                                                                • DrunkHorseplayer
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                                                  You're triggered over nothing. Wow, someone has an opinion... call the cops!

                                                                  I guess I'm supposed to believe you know more about football, then huh? Could've fooled me, considering you've issued one nothing burger after another like you're a fast food chain at lunch hour. You know enough to declare I know nothing yet all you've said about football is something about a completely different division in completely different years.

                                                                  Well done.

                                                                  Let's be honest for a second. You've already showed your hand in several threads before, and this one is merely a continuation of that same disposition you've previously demonstrated... You're an oldhead who is constantly bemoaning the state of gambling as it's become more difficult to handicap. Sorry boomer, change happens.

                                                                  Like Brad Pitt said in Moneyball "adapt or die." Sounds like you're leaning towards the latter.
                                                                  Translation: "You disagree with me therefore you have a problem, even though I sound foolish." I think I stated my case rather well and without long-winded gibberish; that being that in a division this weak, there are too many unknowns. The above post is correct though, wait until the draft is over...and a few preseason games...and for the inevitable injuries.
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                                                                  • Eddy Munny
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
                                                                    Translation: "You disagree with me therefore you have a problem, even though I sound foolish." I think I stated my case rather well and without long-winded gibberish; that being that in a division this weak, there are too many unknowns. The above post is correct though, wait until the draft is over...and a few preseason games...and for the inevitable injuries.
                                                                    So you disagree with me? I couldn't tell because you never actually made a case for anyone. All you did was object to me having an opinion.

                                                                    Sure, we can wait til the draft is over. Sure, we can wait until a few preseason games have concluded. We can wait until injuries start mounting. Why stop there? Let's just wait until November to cast our votes. Hell, maybe we can all just make our predictions after the season has wrapped. We can make SBR a summary forum instead of a gambling one.

                                                                    Furthermore if the division being weak is what makes it impossible to handicap in your opinion, then tell us who will win the AFC East or the AFC North this year since those appear to be strong divisions on paper. Using your logic it should be very easy to pick a winner in tough divisions since weak divisions are so difficult to call.

                                                                    Again, you're just cynical and tired about anything to do with betting the sport. You're too afraid to commit to anything, just stay middle of the road so you can't be criticized. You're washed.
                                                                    Last edited by Eddy Munny; 04-13-24, 10:46 PM.
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                                                                    • DrunkHorseplayer
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      You're entitled to your opinion and you're wrong; take it like a man you fool. I never said tough divisions are easy to handicap, only that weaker ones are more difficult. I rarely bet futures; usually too much juice and too many unknowns, especially in cases like the the NFC South.
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