Mlb is cheating themselves with this stupid ghost runner

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  • Halfapointoff
    SBR MVP
    • 01-25-14
    • 1670

    #1
    Mlb is cheating themselves with this stupid ghost runner
    1. Road team is at an advantage if they didn’t utilize their closer.
    2. If closer is not even a a factor in my analysis, it definitely puts home team at a disadvantage if road team scores first with a runner in scoring position with zero outs
    due to the pressure factor that road team batters don’t face. ( As long as score is tied) ie…Top of the 10th inning.
  • Headsterx
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-03-16
    • 22375

    #2
    Isn’t #1 applies to both teams?

    And #2 is home team then should make sure to get an out before the first run is scored.

    I like this change for regular season. Don’t need these extra innings to go on and on in regular season.
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    • DrunkHorseplayer
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 05-15-10
      • 7719

      #3
      An enormous, but necessary, evil. Teams simply can't play 15 inning games without using the whole pitching staff.
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      • Halfapointoff
        SBR MVP
        • 01-25-14
        • 1670

        #4
        Originally posted by Headsterx
        Isn’t #1 applies to both teams?

        And #2 is home team then should make sure to get an out before the first run is scored.

        I like this change for regular season. Don’t need these extra innings to go on and on in regular season.
        I explained your reasoning on #1 with # 2

        And to your explanation on #2 is obvious. But, there still is a pressure factor in which I thought I explained. IE…field goal kicker kicking a 40 yard field goal as time expires to win the game instead of kicking it when it’s tied. Do you peeps read? It’s a valid thought whether I like it or not. I don’t like the 18 inning games as well. But your disagreement is based on your own feelings on watching 6 hours of baseball . Very selfish.
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        • Headsterx
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 12-03-16
          • 22375

          #5
          Originally posted by Halfapointoff
          I explained your reasoning on #1 with # 2

          And to your explanation on #2 is obvious. But, there still is a pressure factor in which I thought I explained. IE…field goal kicker kicking a 40 yard field goal as time expires to win the game instead of kicking it when it’s tied. Do you peeps read? It’s a valid thought whether I like it or not. I don’t like the 18 inning games as well. But your disagreement is based on your own feelings on watching 6 hours of baseball . Very selfish.
          Actually my reasoning isn’t selfish and you assumed it’s because I don’t want to sit through extra innings. All I said was that we don’t need it to keep going. And the reasoning is for the players’ health and wealth. They playing extra and not getting paid by the hour. Plus, you’re risking the health of pitchers. There’s a reason pitchers are not pitching complete games or pitching 5 straight games.
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          • Headsterx
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 12-03-16
            • 22375

            #6
            Another thing they should implement is a shorter season and reduce it to 152 games.
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            • VeggieDog
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 02-21-09
              • 7214

              #7
              In Japan they will play up to 3 extra innings to break a tie. After 3 extras, if it's still tied they just end it and call it a tie.
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              • lakerboy
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 04-02-09
                • 94361

                #8
                Stupid but that's Manfred
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                • TheGoldenGoose
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-27-12
                  • 3745

                  #9
                  If you look at the team splits home and away you’ll find many teams this year have a better road record than playing at home. This is unprecedented in MLB history.
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                  • DrunkHorseplayer
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 05-15-10
                    • 7719

                    #10
                    It's early, that probably won't hold.
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                    • Mr KLC
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 12-19-07
                      • 30993

                      #11
                      I'm for the ghost runner during the season. Like Horseplayer stated, you can't let the teams wear out their bullpen. Also, how many fans want to sit through a 15 inning game in the regular season? I'm a diehard baseball fan and I know I don't. The whole purpose of these rule changes is to shorten the games.
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                      • unde0087
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 03-27-08
                        • 28848

                        #12
                        I think the ghost runner is completely stupid and needs to go. With base stealing way up teams with any speed at all basically automatically have a man at 2nd if anyone gets on anyways. I like extra innings and don't like all the "game shortening" bullshit they put into baseball. The game was great for a hundred years and now we continue to make the game more watered down because the new useless generation can't pull their head out of their phone or concentrate for more than an hour.
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                        • DrunkHorseplayer
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 05-15-10
                          • 7719

                          #13
                          The problem is that the new generation and their cash represents baseball's future; the sport has to cater to the young crowd or it's ultimately toast.
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                          • JAKEPEAVY21
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 03-11-11
                            • 29210

                            #14
                            I don't like the ghost runner at all but do like the pitch clock as it keeps the game moving.
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                            • DanteNemonic
                              SBR Hustler
                              • 03-13-24
                              • 60

                              #15
                              Originally posted by unde0087
                              I think the ghost runner is completely stupid and needs to go. With base stealing way up teams with any speed at all basically automatically have a man at 2nd if anyone gets on anyways. I like extra innings and don't like all the "game shortening" bullshit they put into baseball. The game was great for a hundred years and now we continue to make the game more watered down because the new useless generation can't pull their head out of their phone or concentrate for more than an hour.
                              I will assume you are a boomer. The absolute worst and most spoiled generation to ever exist. Check out the sub reddit boomers being fools. You'll fit right in over there.
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                              • Keith Richard
                                SBR MVP
                                • 07-06-06
                                • 1576

                                #16
                                Ghost runner is a complete Mickey Mouse rule.
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                                • Mr KLC
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 12-19-07
                                  • 30993

                                  #17
                                  Ghost runner is no different from the NHL doing their shootouts, or NCAA football doing their OT from the 25 yard line. All are differences from the normal game flow, but add a different perspective. NHL and MLB are the same in the playoffs. They get rid of the alternate endings, and that's fine by me.
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                                  • Thefix13
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 05-14-21
                                    • 664

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by DanteNemonic
                                    I will assume you are a boomer. The absolute worst and most spoiled generation to ever exist. Check out the sub reddit boomers being fools. You'll fit right in over there.
                                    Give it another 10-15 years and you will see what an entitled generation truly looks like
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                                    • VeggieDog
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 02-21-09
                                      • 7214

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
                                      The problem is that the new generation and their cash represents baseball's future; the sport has to cater to the young crowd or it's ultimately toast.
                                      Horse Racing seconds that. We go to the track a few times a year and it's absolutely dead.
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                                      • sportgeek
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 03-14-18
                                        • 56

                                        #20
                                        I hated it at first but I now realize it is probably good to not have extra innings drag on forever. However, I would prefer the ghost runner not start to the 11th inning. Lets try one inning with regular ball before the ghost starts. NHL goes to 3 on 3 in OT and then a shootout after 5 minutes.
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                                        • mcaulay777
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-13-10
                                          • 1765

                                          #21
                                          I know why they do it they play so many games and when games were going 16 innings into the morning no one was inside the building or watching it on tv im sure this has been brought up,I have gotten used to the ghost runner still don't like it.Give it a few innings first,Maybe start the ghost runner in 11th or 12th inning!
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                                          • stevenash
                                            Moderator
                                            • 01-17-11
                                            • 65135

                                            #22
                                            I still hate the extra inning auto-runner.
                                            I think calling a game a tie after 12 full innings is the way to go.
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                                            • SomeDayinBuffalo
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-12-11
                                              • 1442

                                              #23
                                              I don't like how it starts right in the 10th. It's equal in the end. It also add more to the end of the game. More runs in the end and that's what they want.
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                                              • DrunkHorseplayer
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 05-15-10
                                                • 7719

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by stevenash
                                                I still hate the extra inning auto-runner.
                                                I think calling a game a tie after 12 full innings is the way to go.
                                                I agree with that.I can't remember the exact numbers but I think I read that about 1% of games go loger than 13 innings so if that were the policy, there wouldn't be too many.
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