If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
BYU is done stick a fork in them. They will never have an elite program or win a championship because they don't have a "winning attitude" a guy can't have sex with his gf??? craziness.
The loss last night for BYU was as much NM game style and the letdown factor after the big San Diego State win. If the controversy hadn't happened, them losing last night would have been a shrug of the shoulders and a "no big deal". This team is to solid to be so effected by the release of Davies that they won't go deep in the tourney. In a year where there is no clear cut #1 team, they are just as good as any other top 10 team even without Davies.
The loss last night for BYU was as much NM game style and the letdown factor after the big San Diego State win. If the controversy hadn't happened, them losing last night would have been a shrug of the shoulders and a "no big deal". This team is to solid to be so effected by the release of Davies that they won't go deep in the tourney. In a year where there is no clear cut #1 team, they are just as good as any other top 10 team even without Davies.
Not sure where you were getting at here. But I agree they are a good team, with or without Davies. Are they a little worse off now because their top rebounder is now gone?...of course. It's the first game without him, whatever, they should've played the Lobos hard without him...especially in Provo. Don't forget, Provo's a tough place to play in. We beat BYU at The Pit, and we beat BYU at Provo. We just exposed BYU to the world last night. Everyone will take notes, and sorry, with everything else, I don't see them going 'deep in the tourney', whatever 'deep' means.
It shouldn't be, 'Dang, BYU lost to UNM, without that Davies guy!' UNM is a pretty good team too, just not as good as last year. It's not a huge upset like people make it out to be. It's not like Urkel fukkin knocked out MikeTyson, ok?....I'm just putting this in perspective.
Does his pregnant girlfriend have to wear a burqa now? Does Davies have to wear a big red "A" on his chest when he goes to class? Do they do public stonings in the quad?
These kinda schools are more prevalent than you think maybe not so much in D! but theyre out there and people who go to these kinds of places are a little less than all there imo
they sure love marriage, from wiki: Compared to most universities, the marriage rate at BYU is much higher. In 2005, 22% of the student population was married......
They don't love marriage. It's the only way they can get laid without getting kicked out.
No kidding- the guy can't have sex w/ his girlfriend, but he can have multiple wives.
This will cost BYU their season, their future blue chip recruits and probably cost Mitt Romney the GOP nomination- naturally people will bring up or question his Mormon faith and it's relavance in todays world.
Sad part is that the guy has a child on the way, and his university is making his life, and the lives of his girlfriend and little unborn baby, very difficult. Shameful.
BYU basketball coach Dave Rose’s next task just might be the most difficult of his six-year tenure: Keep a season that just five days ago was being called the best in school history from spiraling downward.
Wednesday night’s 82-64 loss to New Mexico still fresh in their minds, the 27-3 Cougars did not practice on Thursday. Rose gave them the day off from the hardwoods to rest, heal and take care of some personal matters.
In a news conference appearance with athletic director Tom Holmoe and BYU spokeswoman Carri Jenkins in which the officials discussed the honor code and the recent dismissal of star center Brandon Davies, Rose said he met individually with players on Thursday afternoon.
A team meeting was scheduled for Thursday evening.
Players were not made available for interviews, despite the fact that seniors Jackson Emery, Jimmer Fredette and Logan Magnusson will be playing their final game at the Marriott Center on Saturday when the Cougars play host to Wyoming (1:30 p.m., The Mtn.)
After scoring 25 of his team’s 33 second-half points against the Lobos, Fredette said the Cougars “will be all right” several times in Wednesday’s postgame news conference.
“We just have to pull together. I think we are going to be all right,” he said, referencing the dismissal of Davies. “We just didn’t play well tonight. ... We are going to be fine. Tonight was a tough game for us. Lots of teams come off big emotional games, then lose the next one, regardless of whether they have all their players or not.”
After riddling San Diego State last week with a barrage of 3-pointers, Charles Abouo and Noah Hartsock combined to go 1 of 10 from the field, including 0 of 5 from 3-point range.
BYU star player suspended for having premarital sex
Pretty harsh I would say.
Brandon Davies suspended from BYU basketball team for honor code violation
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BYU's Brandon Davies suspended for sex
Brigham Young University has suspended Brandon Davies, one of its star basketball players, from the team after it was discovered that he had premarital sex with his girlfriend, a violation of the student honor code.
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BYU basketball player Brandon Davies was suspended for violating the school's honor code. As Cindy Boren reported:
At other schools, Brandon Davies might have been high fived. At Brigham Young University, he was suspended from the nation's third-ranked basketball team because he admitted to violating the school's honor code by having sexual relations with his girlfriend.
An honor code is an honor code and the one at BYU, a private school affiliated with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, requires students to "live a chaste and virtuous life." Students are also required to be honest; abstain from alcoholic beverages, tobacco, tea, coffee and substance abuse; and attend church regularly. Davies will be suspended from the team for the rest of the season and, according to BYU spokeswoman Carri Jenkins, his future at the school has yet to be determined.
"Everybody who comes to BYU, every student if they're an athlete or not an athlete, they make a commitment when they come," BYU Coach Dave Rose said, adding that he thought Davies would play again for the team. "A lot of people try to judge if this is right or wrong, but it's a commitment they make. It's not about right or wrong. It's about commitment."
While many thought the penalty harsh, Tracee Hamilton explained that breaking the rules will always have consequences:
Of course, I never agreed to follow these rules, then or now. Sophomore forward Brandon Davies did, as do all students who attend BYU. Once you agree to follow the rules and you don't, you suffer the consequences. The consequences lesson is one of those important life lessons that don't appear on a college syllabus.
Davies's consequences are particularly painful, and not just for Davies: He has been kicked off the basketball team for the rest of the season - and what a season it was shaping up to be. The Cougars were ranked No. 3 in the country and in the running for a No. 1 seed in the NCAA tournament. Without Davies, they lost at home Wednesday night to unranked New Mexico, and the dream of a top seed is over.
Davies apparently violated the second rule by having premarital sex with his girlfriend, according to the Salt Lake Tribune. That falls under the "chaste and virtuous life" rule, which is sufficiently vague enough to cover a multitude of sins.
As On Faith panelist Michael Otterson observed, it is admirable that BYU stuck to its principles:
It was interesting to read about another BYU athlete's reaction to all of this. Former BYU football star Reno Mahe suffered a similar tough lesson in 1998 after an honor code violation got him dropped from the football program.
"I've always shared this with people, that it was probably one of the best things that had happened to me," he told the Deseret News in Salt Lake City. "I appreciate what BYU did to me. I appreciate the honor code and what it stands for. I appreciate that they enforce it. You get a lot of schools that say they have codes, but I don't think anyone enforces it like BYU does.... It's a great school. It's a one-of-a-kind school." As everyone knows, Reno went back to BYU and ended up playing in the NFL.
BYU is a one-of-a-kind school. But it's not the only school with principles or honor codes. And wouldn't it be a good thing if such principles and standards were so well and routinely enthroned that when they were applied in cases of honor code violations, they didn't generate coast to coast publicity.
bout time a college stands up to these thugs and shows em the door. They have a standard there at BYU that most wouldn't understand and if they show star treatment the whole process falls apart. Good for them by doing the right thing.
I think it is harse but those are the rules of the University. Not quite sure why people would see something as harse simply because it doesn't fit their Worldview.
I'm not gonna knock the policy, but I can guarantee that they will lose more quality recruits in the future because of this coming to light the way it is.
Morally correct or not, it's gonna cost BYU in the end. That said, i'm sure the code is much more important than the sport anyway, so it won't matter to them. I'll at least commend them for sticking to their guns.