Does anyone remember Orel Hershiser's scoreless inning streak in 1988?

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  • fearless
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    • 08-14-06
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    #1
    Does anyone remember Orel Hershiser's scoreless inning streak in 1988?
    59 innings! It's probably my my cherished memory in sports. I was in middle school and a big Dodger fan! I wasn't thinking about sports betting at the time but I want to know:

    What were the lines for those games? I could see the Dodgers easily being -300 to -400 favorites when Hershiser was at his peak. He was simply the most amazing pitcher I've ever seen.

    HOW LONG IT'S STOOD:
    18 years

    CLOSEST CALL SINCE:
    41, by Orioles reliever Gregg Olson over two seasons (1989-90), or 39 1/3 in a single season, by Greg Maddux (2000).

    That ever-modest Hershiser wouldn't vote for his own streak. But so many of our other panelists did, we easily could have bumped this even higher on the list.

    Many streaks are overrated, but this one is actually underrated. In fact, the always-incisive Rob Tracy of the Elias Sports Bureau called it "the most underrated occurrence of all time."

    Since we give extra points for buzz, almost nothing manufactures that buzz like a cool streak. And in an era when almost nobody averages seven innings a start, we're talking about a record that might take a starter nine consecutive shutout outings to break. So think about the insanity as that wave of zeroes reached six and seven and eight starts.

    "Or if the guy who was chasing it turned out to be a reliever, like a Mariano Rivera, it would be almost like a DiMaggio-type streak," Hershiser says, "because it would mostly be an inning a game, a game at a time, over a couple of months."

    So we admit it. We love this record.


    Last edited by fearless; 06-07-08, 09:09 AM.
  • LT Profits
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    • 10-27-06
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    #2
    If I recall, didn't he pictch 11 scoreless innings in an extra-inning game to break the old record?
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    • fearless
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      #3
      Originally posted by LT Profits
      If I recall, didn't he pictch 11 scoreless innings in an extra-inning game to break the old record?
      I don't remember the details my childhood is just a haze.
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      • Richkas
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        • 02-03-08
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        #4
        I dont remember any of the exact details, but yes I remember the streak. He was the best at the time.
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        • LT Profits
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          #5
          Actually, he broke Dyrdale's scoreless innings streak in his last start of the season when it was thought that he had no chance to break the record until the following season because he was 10 innings shy. I guess no one expected an extra inning game with him pitching 11 innings. Go figure!
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          • fearless
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            #6
            Originally posted by LT Profits
            Actually, he broke Dyrdale's scoreless innings streak in his last start of the season when it was thought that he had no chance to break the record until the following season because he was 10 innings shy. I guess no one expected an extra inning game with him pitching 11 innings. Go figure!
            Wow! I thought the 59 innings including some of his pitching in the playoffs?
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            • daggerkobe
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              • 03-25-08
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              #7
              Yeah I watched that game. He was amazing that season.

              I recall Drysdale being adamant that his record was 58 1/3 so if Orel only goes 9 he should remain the record holder. Good thing he went 10.

              Too bad playoffs didnt count towards the record because I believe he had 17 more shut out innings after that. But the streak officially ended in his first game the next season in the first inning against the Reds.
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              • fearless
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                #8
                Originally posted by daggerkobe
                Yeah I watched that game. He was amazing that season.

                I recall Drysdale being adamant that his record was 58 1/3 so if Orel only goes 9 he should remain the record holder. Good thing he went 10.

                Too bad playoffs didnt count towards the record because I believe he had 17 more shut out innings after that. But the streak officially ended in his first game the next season in the first inning against the Reds.
                Why wouldn't the innings he pitched during the playoffs count? I don't get that at all.
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                • Willie Bee
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                  • 02-14-06
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by daggerkobe
                  Too bad playoffs didnt count towards the record because I believe he had 17 more shut out innings after that. But the streak officially ended in his first game the next season in the first inning against the Reds.
                  Actually, his shutout streak was snapped in the ninth inning of his first playoff start against the Mets in the NLCS. He came back and got a save in Game 4 of that series, and then tossed a shutout in the Game 7 clincher.

                  I was at one of his shutouts during his streak, believe it was the fourth straight shutout in that run when he faced the Astros in Houston. As a sidebar to that game, it turned out to be the final game that Nolan Ryan pitched for the Astros, and Ryan left the mound with a 'hamstring injury' during his warmups in the top of the third.

                  However, the Dodgers spent the first two innings of the contest whining about Ryan scuffing the ball, and when the 3B ump (can't recall who the ump was) picked up the ball at the end of the top of the second, he definitely saw something suspicious. I do remember that Eric 'Hey, Hey, Hey' Gregg was the home plate ump, and he went over to the Astros dugout with the ball and had some words with manager Hal Lanier, and it's always been my contention that Ryan was caught dead to right, and the decision was made he would leave the game with an injury instead of being ejected. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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                  • fearless
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Willie Bee
                    Actually, his shutout streak was snapped in the ninth inning of his first playoff start against the Mets in the NLCS. He came back and got a save in Game 4 of that series, and then tossed a shutout in the Game 7 clincher.

                    I was at one of his shutouts during his streak, believe it was the fourth straight shutout in that run when he faced the Astros in Houston. As a sidebar to that game, it turned out to be the final game that Nolan Ryan pitched for the Astros, and Ryan left the mound with a 'hamstring injury' during his warmups in the top of the third.

                    However, the Dodgers spent the first two innings of the contest whining about Ryan scuffing the ball, and when the 3B ump (can't recall who the ump was) picked up the ball at the end of the top of the second, he definitely saw something suspicious. I do remember that Eric 'Hey, Hey, Hey' Gregg was the home plate ump, and he went over to the Astros dugout with the ball and had some words with manager Hal Lanier, and it's always been my contention that Ryan was caught dead to right, and the decision was made he would leave the game with an injury instead of being ejected. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
                    Very interesting story and it sounds quite believable. It goes to show that we only know a little bit about what's going on behind the scenes of these games.

                    BTW, what did you think of Hershiser's stuff? Was he the greatest pitcher you've ever seen? Do you remember what his betting lines were during the streak? I think they had to be around -300+. Thanks for the story, very interesting indeed.
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                    • Willie Bee
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                      • 02-14-06
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                      #11
                      He certainly was great during the streak, but no, I don't consider him one of the greatest I have ever seen. Don't recall the lines for his games. But I did make some money on the Dodgers against the A's in that World Series and then two years later with the Reds against the A's. Gave some of that back in the '89 Series.
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                      • Poker_Beast
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                        • 09-14-06
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                        #12
                        Funny, I saw him on the NBC Heads Up Poker Championship today.
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                        • bigboydan
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by LT Profits
                          Actually, he broke Dyrdale's scoreless innings streak in his last start of the season when it was thought that he had no chance to break the record until the following season because he was 10 innings shy. I guess no one expected an extra inning game with him pitching 11 innings. Go figure!
                          Your making me feel really old now LT, because I remember that.
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                          • Willie Bee
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by bigboydan
                            Your making me feel really old now LT, because I remember that.
                            Dan, you are old.
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                            • bigboydan
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Willie Bee
                              Dan, you are old.
                              Not as old as you though Willie.
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                              • Illusion
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                                • 08-09-05
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                                #16
                                I was nine years old and just started getting into sports. I don't emember watching any of the games, but remember it was huge news on SportsCenter and in the papers (before the interent youngens)
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                                • Willie Bee
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by BBD
                                  Not as old as you though Willie.
                                  Originally posted by Illusion
                                  I was nine years old...
                                  Fu©kin' kids
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                                  • Boodaki
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by daggerkobe
                                    Yeah I watched that game. He was amazing that season.

                                    I recall Drysdale being adamant that his record was 58 1/3 so if Orel only goes 9 he should remain the record holder. Good thing he went 10.

                                    Too bad playoffs didnt count towards the record because I believe he had 17 more shut out innings after that. But the streak officially ended in his first game the next season in the first inning against the Reds.

                                    Yeah, he went 10 innings in his last regular season game that year. He went 8+ innings in Game One of the NLCS before giving up a run, so technically his streak was 67 consecutive scoreless innings pitched, regular season and post-season combined.

                                    I also recall that he pitched 11 scoreless innings in the last game of the 1989 season, against the Braves. The Dodgers had a amassed a streak of close to 40 consecutive innings without scoring a run for Hershiser that season. His record fell from 14-8 to 14-15, before the Dodgers scored a few unearned runs in the 12th to get him his 15th win of the season. During that span, his earned run average actually went down. He even pitched seven shutout innings of relief in a 22 inning game the Dodgers lost 1-0 that year.
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                                    • Willie Bee
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                                      #19
                                      I'd still would've rather faced Hershiser than Drysdale. Double D was so mean, he once threw at a baserunner.
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                                      • smitch124
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                                        #20
                                        I remember that Drysdale's streak was extended to beyond the previous record in a game against the Giants when a Giants batter (I forget who, might've been Ron Hunt) got hit by a pitch with the bases loaded and it was disallowed by the umpire because he didn't try to get out of the way...usual Dodger BS

                                        Then something similar happened (More Dodger BS ) with Orel in his streak against the Giants to extend his streak beyond Drysdale's record, I don't think it was a HPB. Maybe a double play with 1st and 3rd and 1 out was awarded to him because of a baserunner sliding out of the baseline or something. Does anybody remember what it was because I'm not sure.
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                                        • daggerkobe
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                                          #21
                                          I just realized something.......

                                          Although a Dodger owns one of the greatest pitching achievements of all time, they have been on the other end of historical hitting records.

                                          A Dodger served up Pete Rose's record breaking hit.
                                          A Dodger served up Hank Aaron's record breaking HR.
                                          A Dodger served up Barry Bonds' record breaking single season HR.

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                                          • Willie Bee
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by smitch124
                                            I remember that Drysdale's streak was extended to beyond the previous record in a game against the Giants when a Giants batter (I forget who, might've been Ron Hunt) got hit by a pitch with the bases loaded and it was disallowed by the umpire because he didn't try to get out of the way...usual Dodger BS

                                            Then something similar happened (More Dodger BS ) with Orel in his streak against the Giants to extend his streak beyond Drysdale's record, I don't think it was a HPB. Maybe a double play with 1st and 3rd and 1 out was awarded to him because of a baserunner sliding out of the baseline or something. Does anybody remember what it was because I'm not sure.
                                            Dick Dietz was the Giants batter who was ruled to have not made an attempt to avoid being hit by a Drysdale pitch, thus keeping DD's streak alive.

                                            The controversy with Hershiser came in I think his next-to-last start of the season in San Fran. Might have been the start before that. But it involved Brett Butler obstructing the LA shortstop on a doubleplay.
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                                            • daggerkobe
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                                              #23
                                              And the most embarassing of all......

                                              Fernando Tatis' record setting two Grand Slams, 8 RBIs in ONE inning by Chan Ho Park of the Dodgers.
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                                              • smitch124
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Willie Bee
                                                Dick Dietz was the Giants batter who was ruled to have not made an attempt to avoid being hit by a Drysdale pitch, thus keeping DD's streak alive.

                                                The controversy with Hershiser came in I think his next-to-last start of the season in San Fran. Might have been the start before that. But it involved Brett Butler obstructing the LA shortstop on a doubleplay.

                                                Thanks Willie Bee great knowledge! Sigh, twice with the freaking Dodgers, figures
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