braves best team in mlb hands down

**romecloneout** · 07-18-11, 08:21 PM

freeman is starting to come around

**vyomguy** · 07-18-11, 08:22 PM

phillies...one of the best pitching lineups ever seen in baseball.

**BRAVES1985** · 07-18-11, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by vyomguy

phillies...one of the best pitching lineups ever seen in baseball.

on paper ya but too soon to say that they are the best ever

those orioles and dodgers rotations are still the best of all time

**downsouth** · 07-18-11, 08:27 PM

I hope your right as a Braves fan in Atlanta but I gotta say, beating Philly in a 7 game series is going to be real tough(if both teams make it that far).

**konck** · 07-18-11, 08:28 PM

Funny Thread

**pavyracer** · 07-18-11, 08:29 PM

Braves have the best team right now. You ain't seen nothing yet.

**dlunc3** · 07-18-11, 08:30 PM

good team and def a threat...but none the less, a dumb comment

**pokernut9999** · 07-18-11, 08:30 PM

They did win one world series in 14 straight tries , with much better teams.

**dlunc3** · 07-18-11, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

Braves have the best team right now. You ain't seen nothing yet.

not saying they arent, but didnt they just lose a series last weekend to a certain team in their own division?

**iifold** · 07-18-11, 08:33 PM

Best regular season team maybe..

Hanson and Jurrjens will get lit up in playoffs...

Lineup will get shutdown by + pitching in playoffs (Freeman can hit + pitching)

Close, but no cigar...

What do I know though??

**rthoughton** · 07-18-11, 08:34 PM

the phillies just beat them in the last series, and won the rubber match 14-1. The Braves are a very good young team, but cmon, guys... seriously? 5 straight NL East titles? Hamels Halladay Lee is not only the best on paper, but on the field, too. Phils might go down tonight, but were 10-0 in Doc's last 10 starts. Lee didn't give up a run in 33 straight innings in June. And Hamels is a WS MVP and dominant.
Plus they are getting ready to make some kind of a move.
12 - 1 is nice on the Braves, tho. but they are not as good as the Phils. Not yet.

**downsouth** · 07-18-11, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by iifold

Best regular season team maybe..

Hanson and Jurrjens will get lit up in playoffs...

Lineup will get shutdown by + pitching in playoffs (Freeman can hit + pitching)

Close, but no cigar...

What do I know though??

Jurrjens maybe but I think Handson is real deal.

**pavyracer** · 07-18-11, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

not saying they arent, but didnt they just lose a series last weekend to a certain team in their own division?

They are 6-6 for the year with Phillies. What does one series mean especially when the Braves were playing on the road?

**Ice House** · 07-18-11, 08:34 PM

trade for Clayton Kershaw and I will agree with you. Need a Lefty ace to beat the phiillies

**Ice House** · 07-18-11, 08:35 PM

actually Giants have a better shot .... especially if they pick up Beltran and or Reyes and get hot like last post season. They have the pitching to do it.

**dlunc3** · 07-18-11, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

They are 6-6 for the year with Phillies. What does one series mean especially when the Braves were playing on the road?

so why are the braves better? they have less experience and a worse record?

**Ra77er** · 07-18-11, 08:36 PM

Right and the series in Philly when Atlanta won 2 of 3 means??? nothing right now. Atlanta is going to age in this season like a fine wine....

**dlunc3** · 07-18-11, 08:37 PM

in 3 years you may have a good argument

**Baseball Ted** · 07-18-11, 08:38 PM

I tend to agree with you - My pick in early May was Braves-Tigers world series with the Braves winning. They really need Chipper Jones to be healthy and hitting and Heyward needs to become a star in the 2nd half of the season to do it.

**dlunc3** · 07-18-11, 08:38 PM

big game pitchers and experience in the playoffs is matters the majority of the time in baseball.. there are exceptions, but normally thats the recipe for success

**Ra77er** · 07-18-11, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

in 3 years you may have a good argument

Are you serious?

They have the second best record in the NL and the 4th best in all of baseball. They are consistent at home as well as on the road. Atlanta is dangerous.

**dlunc3** · 07-18-11, 08:39 PM

boston might beg to differ as well with a healthy pitching staff

**dlunc3** · 07-18-11, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by Ra77er

Are you serious?

They have the second best record in the NL and the 4th best in all of baseball. They are consistent at home as well as on the road. Atlanta is dangerous.

not saying they arent dangerous... but philly and boston have the big game pitching and the playoff experience... in a few years, they might very well be the best.. but not quite yet

**Ra77er** · 07-18-11, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

not saying they arent dangerous... but philly and boston have the big game pitching and the playoff experience... in a few years, they might very well be the best.. but not quite yet

Fair enough

**Baseball Ted** · 07-18-11, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

not saying they arent dangerous... but philly and boston have the big game pitching and the playoff experience... in a few years, they might very well be the best.. but not quite yet

But there is always a unknown "magic" factor in the playoffs which throw out alot of what is on paper. While the Phillies look amazing on paper, they would probably be -140 or -145 to beat the Braves in the NLCS, which is far from a gimme.

Braves have as good a shot as anybody, and would be Baseball Ted's pick to win the whole thing.

**xxx** · 07-18-11, 08:45 PM

solid team, just worry about venters and kimbrell come september. They pitched alot in the first half

**Duby** · 07-18-11, 08:45 PM

I agree one of the best but Phillies pitching is unreal!

**dlunc3** · 07-18-11, 08:45 PM

should be a fun nlcs series between philly and atl this year though... wonder what the game matchups will be? most likely doc cliff cole oswalt for philly.. what will the braves rotation be? tough to chose between those guys.. either way, it should be a fun series and home field advantage could be big

**doylfish** · 07-18-11, 08:48 PM

not when they'll have to face either halladay, lee, or hamels in a game 7..braves have a good rotation, arguably in conversation for best in NL, but still can't quite match phillies who very well could have oswalt as a 5th starter the way worley has been pitching..they could go with a 4 man rotation in the playoffs and only pitch oswalt once. an ace when he's on his game and not injured, who else can afford to do that?

**Ra77er** · 07-18-11, 08:50 PM

Ya Phils rotation is certainly superior to the Braves, I just don't trust the Phillies bats.. can be streaky at times...either way it will be fun too watch regardless.

**dlunc3** · 07-18-11, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by Ra77er

Ya Phils rotation is certainly superior to the Braves, I just don't trust the Phillies bats.. can be streaky at times...either way it will be fun too watch regardless.

phills and braves bats are very simliar... its gonna be a toss up come october where the bats are concerned

**doylfish** · 07-18-11, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

not saying they arent dangerous... but philly and boston have the big game pitching and the playoff experience... in a few years, they might very well be the best.. but not quite yet

that's a stretch for boston, their pitching is hurting and they're pretty far down the list on QS in the league

hearing that buchholz may not be back for a lot longer than initially thought, guys back is still hurting and his arm is losing strength from not pitching, at the least will have to do extended spring training stuff and some rehab starts to even get back to the lineup where we'll have to see how effective he can be

really it's lester and beckett right now for us. ouch. i looked at the series price versus baltimore and the matchups were wakefield/weiland/miller. that's brutal.

**Ra77er** · 07-18-11, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

phills and braves bats are very simliar... its gonna be a toss up come october where the bats are concerned

I disagree there, I think Atlanta has the better lineup + bench. Uggla has been a severe disappointment thus far and we played a bunch without J Hey in the lineup and still managed to churn out wins thanks to a strong effort from our staff.

**Ra77er** · 07-18-11, 08:55 PM

I guess I should've clarified a little, I think Uggla will *HOPEFULLY regress his black a$$ back to the mean and start producing a little more at the plate, and we have young hitters that are only going to gain more confidence with more plate appreances...Shaf, Freddy French Fry