Nadal +125 against Federer

**Stacocakes** · 07-06-08, 11:29 AM

Rain has stopped

**BuddyBear** · 07-06-08, 11:30 AM

I hope you are right Wheel but I am afraid that FED just does not have it today.

Fed ended Nadal's impressive clay court winning streak last year and I think Nadal is returning the favor. Nice call with Nadal....

**Tevez** · 07-06-08, 11:34 AM

Nadal is +180 to win 3 / 0 this match

**SBR Lou** · 07-06-08, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by Tevez

Nadal is +180 to win 3 / 0 this match

Eh, Federer is now (should he lose) still the 2nd best player in the world, plus with his Wimbledon pedigree he should have enough stomach to hold on this set and at least make it more respectable.

**Wheell** · 07-06-08, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by crazyl

I think certain athletes are wired differently and more clutch than others for sure. Compare Tom Brady to Peyton Manning for instance. All these pros, tennis included, can hit the easy shots, can do fundamental things well, but not all can do them under extreme pressure to win or ho home. Especially at this stage.

I believe that if they switched teams 10 years ago the Patriots would have 5 titles. I don't believe Brady is more clutch than Manning.

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 07-06-08, 11:41 AM

Federer was overrated today (no way shoud he have been favourite), and he will be underrated after it. Nadal still has shown very little on hard courts (one Aussie Open semi, none at the US). Djokovic? Won the Aussie Open, but Federer was clearly unwell there. I'm still not convinced by him, he's too much of a baseline basher, really isn't very good on grass yet, and is too predictable in a lot of ways.

Federer is the US Open favourite, and should be more comfortably so than he was the Wimbledon favourite.

**dwaechte** · 07-06-08, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by Wheell

Do you believe in clutch hitting? I don't so I expect Federer is slightly more likely to break Nadal than vice versa right now.

I don't believe in players performing above norm in clutch situations, but I do believe they can underperform in those situations. They start thinking too much instead of just letting the game come to them and they do stupid things. You can't say nerves aren't atleast a tiny part of the game IMO.

Anyways, I still haven't lost hope. I wouldn't be overly surprised to see Fed come back and win this, although obviously Nadal is the big favourite at this point.

**SBR Lou** · 07-06-08, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by HeeeHAWWWW

Federer was overrated today (no way shoud he have been favourite),

I guess a guy can win Wimbledon 5 years in a row, have a stranglehold over world #1 ranking, and still be dogged in the finals then? All because why, the "Clay King" has gotten the better of him on his favorite surface? Remove all clay meetings from their H2H history and tell me who leads.

**Stacocakes** · 07-06-08, 11:51 AM

geez more drizzle
Just want to get this over with

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 07-06-08, 11:51 AM

Gonna rain some more now, maybe another hour minimum before it starts. If this is going to 5 sets it might not finish today (run out of light in about 3.5 hours from now).

**Stacocakes** · 07-06-08, 11:52 AM

I just don't want my money tied up overnight.Have some baseball to bet tonight

**Stacocakes** · 07-06-08, 11:54 AM

Odds right now are -260 on it being completed today

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 07-06-08, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by crazyl

I guess a guy can win Wimbledon 5 years in a row, have a stranglehold over world #1 ranking, and still be dogged in the finals then?

Imo, yes. Federer is clearly not the player he was, whether as an after-effect of glandular fever or gradual technical failures due to lack of a coach. Meanwhile, Nadal is the 2nd best on grass for a couple of years now, and a much better player than last year.

It was always going to be close, and I wasn't saying Nadal was a massive favourite (marginal at best), but if you watched all Nadal's matches at Queens then it was clear he'd stepped up a level this year. That was his best ever grass court movement, flat hitting, serving. Today's match is showing that out.

**dwaechte** · 07-06-08, 11:59 AM

Getting close now

**Stacocakes** · 07-06-08, 11:59 AM

Should be starting again soon nice

**Stacocakes** · 07-06-08, 12:20 PM

Rafa better hope he doesn't get a point against for playing slow still. His service games take forever

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 07-06-08, 12:20 PM

Lot less windy now, if Federer can get his serve grooved he has a really good chance in a tiebreak.

**dwaechte** · 07-06-08, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by HeeeHAWWWW

Lot less windy now, if Federer can get his serve grooved he has a really good chance in a tiebreak.

I'd just prefer to see him break here lol.

**smallon** · 07-06-08, 12:23 PM

I want it over this set!!!

**Stacocakes** · 07-06-08, 12:24 PM

good start for fed haha

**Stacocakes** · 07-06-08, 12:27 PM

horrible call

**Stacocakes** · 07-06-08, 12:28 PM

mini break what a return

**Stacocakes** · 07-06-08, 12:32 PM

There we go.Now we have a match

**dwaechte** · 07-06-08, 12:32 PM

Boo yeah! 4th set here we come.

**Junkyard Dog** · 07-06-08, 12:32 PM

that a boy, lets go federer

**dwaechte** · 07-06-08, 12:33 PM

Nadal down to -175.

**smallon** · 07-06-08, 12:38 PM

Well I've got the over on 42 1/2 - maybe this will hit too. I would rather have lost this wager to win the other.

**dwaechte** · 07-06-08, 12:44 PM

Over 42.5 looking like a lock at this point.

**dwaechte** · 07-06-08, 12:57 PM

Nadal is starting to look stronger, I'm getting worried..

**mathdotcom** · 07-06-08, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by mathdotcom

Can go either way. Hoping for a close match w/ my O42.5 bet.

5/5 at Wimbledon

So long as Nadal doesnt break Fed twice here

**daggerkobe** · 07-06-08, 01:06 PM

Looks like going to another tiebreaker.... Nadal sucks at it

**onthewhat** · 07-06-08, 01:06 PM

would love to see nadal get this over with here...

**Stacocakes** · 07-06-08, 01:07 PM

oh no 0-30

**daggerkobe** · 07-06-08, 01:07 PM

0-30

**Stacocakes** · 07-06-08, 01:08 PM

Nice
Need a couple aces to close this game out