They are called "teasers" for a reason. That is all I will say.
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this might be true, but brahmabull set this up by saying that wong teasers were profitable pretty much every week for years. and then saying he only looked at "6 or 7 weeks", how can you take any research seriously when they don't even know how many weeks they looked at, and when they only pick 6 or 7 weeks out of 51 (assuming 3 years of regular season)?
to win 52.4 percent of your teasers you need to be able to win the individual games approximately 72.5 percent of the time, which is pretty much EXACTLY the amount of time a leg of a wong teaser covers.
rather than look at a few random weeks, here is 10 years worth of stats:
<TABLE class=data border=0 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3><TBODY><TR><TD class=datatitle colSpan=5>Wong Teasers</TD></TR><TR class=datahead><TD width=100 align=middle>Bet</TD><TD width=100 align=middle>Wins</TD><TD width=100 align=middle>Games</TD><TD width=100 align=middle>Ratio Wins</TD><TD width=100 align=middle>Standard Deviation</TD></TR><TR><TD align=left>Home underdogs </TD><TD>90 </TD><TD>126 </TD><TD>71.43% </TD><TD>3.98% </TD></TR><TR><TD align=left>Home favorites </TD><TD>109 </TD><TD>144 </TD><TD>75.69% </TD><TD>3.72% </TD></TR><TR><TD align=left>Away underdogs </TD><TD>124 </TD><TD>170 </TD><TD>72.94% </TD><TD>3.42% </TD></TR><TR><TD align=left>Away favorites </TD><TD>31 </TD><TD>48 </TD><TD>64.58% </TD><TD>6.44% </TD></TR><TR><TD align=left>All home </TD><TD>199 </TD><TD>270 </TD><TD>73.70% </TD><TD>2.72% </TD></TR><TR><TD align=left>All away </TD><TD>155 </TD><TD>218 </TD><TD>71.10% </TD><TD>3.02% </TD></TR><TR><TD align=left>All underdogs </TD><TD>214 </TD><TD>296 </TD><TD>72.30% </TD><TD>2.59% </TD></TR><TR><TD align=left>All favorites </TD><TD>140 </TD><TD>192 </TD><TD>72.92% </TD><TD>3.22% </TD></TR><TR><TD align=left>All </TD><TD>354 </TD><TD>488 </TD><TD>72.54% </TD><TD>2.02% </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Comment -
and here's the expected return for the last 10 years depending on your book's payout structure, as you can see with a normal 2-team teaser -110 the return is just barely positive, probably nothing close to what brahmabull thinks/claims it is:
<TABLE class=data border=0 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3><TBODY><TR><TD class=datatitle colSpan=3>Wong Teaser Expected Return</TD></TR><TR class=datahead><TD width=100 align=middle>Picks</TD><TD width=100 align=middle>Pays</TD><TD width=100 align=middle>Expected Return</TD></TR><TR><TD>2 </TD><TD align=left>10 to 11 </TD><TD>0.46% </TD></TR><TR><TD>2 </TD><TD align=left>5 to 6 </TD><TD>-3.53% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3 </TD><TD align=left>9 to 5 </TD><TD>6.88% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3 </TD><TD align=left>8 to 5 </TD><TD>-0.75% </TD></TR><TR><TD>3 </TD><TD align=left>7 to 5 </TD><TD>-8.39% </TD></TR><TR><TD>4 </TD><TD align=left>3 to 1 </TD><TD>10.76% </TD></TR><TR><TD>4 </TD><TD align=left>14 to 5 </TD><TD>5.22% </TD></TR><TR><TD>4 </TD><TD align=left>13 to 5 </TD><TD>-0.31% </TD></TR><TR><TD>4 </TD><TD align=left>5 to 2 </TD><TD>-3.08% </TD></TR><TR><TD>4 </TD><TD align=left>12 to 5 </TD><TD>-5.85% </TD></TR><TR><TD>4 </TD><TD align=left>17 to 10 </TD><TD>-25.24% </TD></TR><TR><TD>5 </TD><TD align=left>5 to 1 </TD><TD>20.52% </TD></TR><TR><TD>5 </TD><TD align=left>9 to 2 </TD><TD>10.48% </TD></TR><TR><TD>5 </TD><TD align=left>4 to 1 </TD><TD>0.44% </TD></TR><TR><TD>5 </TD><TD align=left>3 to 1 </TD><TD>-19.65% </TD></TR><TR><TD>6 </TD><TD align=left>7 to 1 </TD><TD>16.57% </TD></TR><TR><TD>6 </TD><TD align=left>13 to 2 </TD><TD>9.29% </TD></TR><TR><TD>6 </TD><TD align=left>6 to 1 </TD><TD>2.00% </TD></TR><TR><TD>6 </TD><TD align=left>9 to 2 </TD><TD>-19.86% </TD></TR><TR><TD>7 </TD><TD align=left>11 to 1 </TD><TD>26.84% </TD></TR><TR><TD>7 </TD><TD align=left>10 to 1 </TD><TD>16.27% </TD></TR><TR><TD>7 </TD><TD align=left>9 to 1 </TD><TD>5.70% </TD></TR><TR><TD>7 </TD><TD align=left>8 to 1 </TD><TD>-4.87% </TD></TR><TR><TD>7 </TD><TD align=left>7 to 1 </TD><TD>-15.44% </TD></TR><TR><TD>8 </TD><TD align=left>15 to 1 </TD><TD>22.68% </TD></TR><TR><TD>8 </TD><TD align=left>12 to 1 </TD><TD>-0.32% </TD></TR><TR><TD>8 </TD><TD align=left>10 to 1 </TD><TD>-15.65%</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Comment -
Look, different people are going to be better at different things. Some people just have a knack at picking games that will go under the total, others have an uncanny ability at picking overs. Jim might be good at putting together teasers while Bob loses his backside when he tries to play teasers. You need to figure out what you are good at and play them heavier, and figure out what you suck at and stay away from that (and we ALL suck at something).
If you can make money off of teasers, don't let anyone talk you out of it. But the best post in this thread is DrStale's. You have to realize that if anything is "easy" for the community at large to beat, it is going to quickly become too expensive to be profitable. Wong teasers aren't new and you will have to pay to play them, so please don't bet them blindly or as a system. Pick the ones that you put money on with a purpose and some thought. By no means should you play every game just because it fits some pre-defined criteria based solely on the line.Comment -
what you posted are not wong teasers
wong teasers are dogs 1.5 to 2.5 and favs 7.5 to 8.5 wowComment -
This is the reason that people tune out or argue with the guy. He starts in about "wong" teasers and then makes up his own criteria for the teaser never even stating a price or number of teams in the teaser. It's possible he came up with a winning formula and should be calling them "brahma" teasers but the guy comes off as such a blow hard it's hard to do anything but mess with him.Comment -
Like I said, I don't always agree with how brahma comes across, and he as has been pointed out, he hasn't exactly used the exact criteria for Wong teasers, and his research is definitely shoddy at best. However, the poster I quoted was no better than brahma when he just attacked the theory purely because brahma brought it up, not because he had any knowledge about it. As has been noted by bettors who actually are knowledgeable about Wong teasers, for Wong teasers to be successful at a meaningful level, they must be bet at 2-teamers at EV, 3-teamers at +180, and 4-teamers at +300.Comment -
brahma let's patent this shit and write a book. how many teams and at what price are you betting these bad boys?Comment -
Past performance is no guarantee of future results.Comment -
I like the 3 team 10 point and the 4 team 13 point teasers. I'm putting aside some of my bank to play and track to see how I do. I started a thread Boneheaded1's Teaser Thread.
I think with the right mix week to week, a win % of 75 is very doable. At a 75% win ratio, these are profitable. I'm going to run concurrent with my favorites moneyline parlay strategy which was profitable for me last year (with huge swings mind you). But then again, I've only been betting online since the beginning of last season (NFL/NCAAF). Just discovered teasers this season so I'm a relative noob.
but like a kid touching a hot stove you really have to be burned before you listen to others. Mainly because there's plenty of dipsh!ts on here (like me) who think they know what they are talking about. Or think they have an edge.
The only TRUE edge in my opinion is take what the bookies give you. Don't stretch for anything.Comment -
brah you're exactly right
I apologize for my early post because I just happened to stumble across several very profitable weeks. I actually see a few weeks last year where wong teasers covered at a terrible rate
with that being said, I still think teasers can be very very profitable if you just play it smart. A lot of matchups and a lot of teams in the league play a lot of close games (you would have had an awesome record if you teased any of the redskins games last year). You also have a team like the pats that have a great SU record every year and you can make money teasing them anytime they're a 7-10 point favorite
on the flipside, certain teams are just terrible for teasers if they're a small underdog... the seahawks for example have gotten blown out many times over the last 3-4 years. The lions in 2008 were blown out a lot of times and the colts this year will get blown out many of times
it's just about evaluating matchups. To me teasers are better than spreads in the NFL because you get matchups like the ravens and steelers where 80-90% of the games are close (it was not close this year, but that's a rarity)Comment -
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Wong teasers have been profitable for a long time now, its nothing new. Some books even adjust their lines to avoid people betting these type of teasers (5Dimes for example) These are pretty much the only teasers I do, and I've done very well with them. I don't do them blindly though and I have to like the team to begin with ATS to tease them.Comment -
I think you might be wong on this.Comment -
yeah, it's comical how this clown thinks he discovered wong teasers like christopher columbus discovering america even though it's been known for many years.
the clueless moron reminds me of a zit-faced teen discovering internet porn for the first time and is so excited he has to tell everyone about it.
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just teased
ATL (+1.5) now +7.5
Miami (+2.5) now +8.5
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i see 3 games that can be used to make a wong teaser. i'm not nearly as confident in them as i was in NYJ/Det last week. these bets aren't profitable just because they're available. have to be good spread wagers that are more valuable as teasers.Comment -
forget about wong teasers. I just like betting dogs up and favorites down. The Saints/Texans line has some value because it's 2 really good teams with good high powered offenses and solid defenses facing each other. That game will be close the majority of the timeComment -
You didnt even know these existed until we pointed you in the right direction last week and now you think you are going to beat the world with them?why do people bet in football in any form except for wong teasers????
I'm doing a bit of research over the last year and 2 weeks of football and I can't find a single week where wong teasers aren't ridiculously profitable. I consider wong teasers to be 1-4 point underdogs teased up, or 6.5 - 9 point favorites teased down
For week 10 of last year, wong teaser choices went something like 10-1
for week 9, wong teaser choices went 10-0
for week 2 of this year, wong teasers went 11-2
for week 1 of this year, wong teasers went 10-1
The more I see your comments, the more I think you are destined for failure. You really need to get a better grasp of the math involved with sports investment. I would recommend some books for you, but doubt you would take the time to read them since you are such an "expert" now that you have been doing this all of...what...seven months?
Good luck...I hope you prove me wrong but find you too braggadocious to think you will....
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Now you can't pick winners so you need teasers.Comment
