David Stern, not allowing Chris Paul Trade?

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  • Tree Rollins
    SBR MVP
    • 12-16-09
    • 3968

    #36
    Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
    Anyone know what owners bitched about it?
    Supposedly they want for Paul to have to play the season through with New Orleans. Meaning, they don't care if New Orleans get's anything out of the deal or not. For their own selfish reasons, they want him to play through the year so he'll be available to anyone, even though he's going to sign with a big market team anyway. They don't give 2 shits about New Orleans or the Hornets. That's a fact. I really thought David Stern would be smart enough to see through this.
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    • Bluehorseshoe
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 07-13-06
      • 14983

      #37
      Originally posted by Tree Rollins

      Supposedly they want for Paul to have to play the season through with New Orleans. Meaning, they don't care if New Orleans get's anything out of the deal or not. For their own selfish reasons, they want him to play through the year so he'll be available to anyone, even though he's going to sign with a big market team anyway. They don't give 2 shits about New Orleans or the Hornets. That's a fact. I really thought David Stern would be smart enough to see through this.

      The funny thing is, if this went through and if the Lakers can't pull off the trade for Howard, there in worst shape than before the Paul trade. It's ridiculous.
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      • riffraff24
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 04-20-11
        • 7234

        #38
        "Chris Paul is doing all the right things right now by essentially ‘protesting’ the decision. Paul has contacted Billy Hunter and the NBPA will use its legal powers to make the trade go through. In addition, Paul will not be attending Hornets’ training camp which will begin on Friday."
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        • gauchojake
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          • 09-17-10
          • 34103

          #39
          Cuban is a name that has been mentioned

          The problem with trading a player who is in a walk year or player option year is that you never get equal value. If you get fifty cents on the dollar you are lucky. This deal was pretty good if your other option is letting cp3 walk.

          The thing about the NBA is that you have to make the money match so it's not as easy as trading talent for talent.
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          • doublej95
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 01-26-10
            • 14094

            #40
            The NBA is looking out for their own interest in wanting Paul to stay in New Orleans till they can find a buyer for the team. No Paul, No buyer.
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            • Mr KLC
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              • 12-19-07
              • 30993

              #41
              I think this opens up a pandora's box that I don't want to see. We have a commissioner picking and choosing which trades are credible, and which ones aren't? There were 3 teams involved in this trade, and they all found it fair. The Hornets actually got some serviceable players out of the deal, along with 2 draft picks. This just puts the so-called "fixed" label even more on the NBA product to me.
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              • gauchojake
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                • 09-17-10
                • 34103

                #42
                Originally posted by doublej95
                The NBA is looking out for their own interest in wanting Paul to stay in New Orleans till they can find a buyer for the team. No Paul, No buyer.
                Dude- he has a player option for 2012 and he wants out. He's gone. Either you get something or you get nothing.
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                • doublej95
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-26-10
                  • 14094

                  #43
                  Originally posted by gauchojake

                  Dude- he has a player option for 2012 and he wants out. He's gone. Either you get something or you get nothing.

                  everyone knows he is gone but the NBA is trying to sell a team that they own. They don't give a damn where he goes after they find a buyer for the team.
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                  • zoo youk
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 10-23-11
                    • 10701

                    #44
                    listen...the whole reason Stern blocked the trade is cause Paul was never going to sign an extension with the Lakers...and than go to the Knicks.....so than the Lakers would have NOTHING left on the roster besides an aging Kobe. Stern wants all the BIG market teams (LA, Miami NY n Boston) loaded...its huge ratings for the league come playoff time. if the Lakers took the kind of roster hit it effects the league ratings tremendously.
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                    • zoo youk
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 10-23-11
                      • 10701

                      #45
                      with the Lakers keeping their current roster and Bynum growing...they are still title contenders for the next four years.

                      do you know what kind of ratings the NBA Finals will get the next 4-5 years with Lakers-Heat Finals...Laker-Knicks finals...Laker-Boston Finals..

                      think about it...if Paul didnt sign that extension with the Lakers who the hell is coming out of the west each year that is going to be an attractive draw in the Finals?
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                      • Mikail
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 07-19-09
                        • 21689

                        #46
                        This is wrong in so many ways. Stern is way outta line here. Oh and IMO it's the Hornets who lose the most in the deal.
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                        • gauchojake
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                          • 09-17-10
                          • 34103

                          #47
                          Originally posted by doublej95
                          everyone knows he is gone but the NBA is trying to sell a team that they own. They don't give a damn where he goes after they find a buyer for the team.
                          but any prospective buyer would know that he's gone anyway so what's the point? I highly doubt that they will get an owner to buy in at anywhere near market price in this scenario. they haven't so far. they should try and legitimately build a team understanding that they will not have cp3 and then sell. or fold the team and call it a bad deal.
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                          • paranoyd androyd
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 10-01-11
                            • 6459

                            #48
                            Originally posted by zoo youk
                            listen...the whole reason Stern blocked the trade is cause Paul was never going to sign an extension with the Lakers...and than go to the Knicks.....so than the Lakers would have NOTHING left on the roster besides an aging Kobe. Stern wants all the BIG market teams (LA, Miami NY n Boston) loaded...its huge ratings for the league come playoff time. if the Lakers took the kind of roster hit it effects the league ratings tremendously.
                            nope the lakers were requiring paul to sign an extension and he was/is ready to gl
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                            • GamblerSpirit
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-18-11
                              • 4085

                              #49
                              Originally posted by big joe 1212
                              Just like when West gave the Lakers Gasol.

                              Memphis should have slit his throat for that!
                              Exactly.
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                              • Tree Rollins
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-16-09
                                • 3968

                                #50
                                The fact that they denied the deal b/c of "basketball reasons", is total bullshit. They hired Dell Demps and other front office guys to decide what was best on the basketball end for that team. Demps probably had literally over 100 trade offers for Paul, and he chose this one as the best. For Stern and people with the NBA, as well as other owners to step in and say this was a bad basketball move, is a farce. That isn't their job. They are not experts on personnel, the salary cap, trade negotiations, NOTHING. The NBA was supposed to handle the business end of the Hornets, and let basketball people make the basketball decisions. They have made a huge mistake. They rushed into this decision and didn't think it through. They couldn't have.
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                                • Pew Pew
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-21-10
                                  • 2267

                                  #51
                                  Fuuuck Stern the dicktator
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                                  • riffraff24
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 04-20-11
                                    • 7234

                                    #52
                                    David Stern trying to dictate what players go where. Phil Jackson called this a year ago. Fuckin communists
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                                    • zoo youk
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-23-11
                                      • 10701

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by paranoyd androyd
                                      nope the lakers were requiring paul to sign an extension and he was/is ready to gl
                                      show me where this was reported?
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                                      • Pew Pew
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-21-10
                                        • 2267

                                        #54
                                        Jeeez and I just finally realize why LeBitch got the hell out of Cleveland. The owner of the Cav is a whining lil bitch. Here's the letter Dan Gilbert wrote to Sperm:

                                        Commissioner,

                                        It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.

                                        This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.

                                        Over the next three seasons this deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.

                                        I cannot remember ever seeing a trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved over $40 million in the process. And it doesn’t appear that they would give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for Dwight Howard. (They would also get a large trade exception that would help them improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers got Pau Gasol (at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a number of prospects (one in Marc Gasol who may become a max-salary player).

                                        I just don’t see how we can allow this trade to happen.

                                        I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.

                                        When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

                                        Please advise….

                                        Dan G.

                                        What a crying lil bitch
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                                        • gauchojake
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                                          • 09-17-10
                                          • 34103

                                          #55
                                          Dear Dan G.

                                          You shit the bed. It was a bed shitting of epic proportions. Sorry you paid so much for your team.

                                          Best Regards

                                          Dave
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                                          • Ernie Mccracken
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-11-11
                                            • 1986

                                            #56
                                            NBA fans don't want super teams. Sorry.
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                                            • MoneyLineDawg
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-01-09
                                              • 13253

                                              #57
                                              I don't understand why the trade wasn't allowed?? It seemed like a fair deal to me......

                                              I'm not a Lakers fan, but if they run their franchise correctly and make the right deals and player evaluations, then more power to them

                                              They are not abusing the system
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                                              • MoneyLineDawg
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-01-09
                                                • 13253

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Ernie Mccracken
                                                NBA fans don't want super teams. Sorry.


                                                Teams should all do everything in their power to get better and they should be allowed to under the rules.....If they are not cheating the salary cap then how can you just not allow something to happen if all parties agree?
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                                                • TheThreeKings
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 08-14-10
                                                  • 506

                                                  #59
                                                  Am I the only who thinks this was a much better deal for the Hornets than the Lakers? If the Lakers make this trade and end up not getting Howard then they just became a far worse team IMO. LA had two main advantages over most teams last year, size and depth, and getting rid of Gasol and Odom neutralizes both.
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                                                  • manutd19
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 05-24-11
                                                    • 340

                                                    #60
                                                    Stern is damaging the nba. How would he not allow it to happen? Is there no rules in nba to follow? Can stern just do whatever he wants, i dnt understand realy. Dnt no much abt the system, but if it was soccer, it couldn't av happened and there there is always the court system to settle it nt a daft commisioner
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                                                    • JakeLc
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 02-20-11
                                                      • 927

                                                      #61
                                                      Yahoo Sports reported that NBA Commissioner David Stern killed the trade after several owners complained. Citing anonymous sources, Yahoo reported Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban was one of the most vocal owners upset about the deal, done the same day as the end of the lockout, which was supposed to restore competitive balance in the league.
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                                                      • manutd19
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 05-24-11
                                                        • 340

                                                        #62
                                                        If it had gone his way, would he have complained. Bullshit! NBA is a shit league! It died when the Jordan era ended
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                                                        • manutd19
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 05-24-11
                                                          • 340

                                                          #63
                                                          He wants Miami to win it all. If u think the dallas wil be able to beat the heat again, u are in for a suprise. No team can match the heat come playoff time.
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                                                          • andywend
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 05-20-07
                                                            • 4805

                                                            #64
                                                            Its amazing how WRONG people are just about all of the time.

                                                            The NBA is completely lopsided as the same 7 or 8 teams have won the last 40 championships.

                                                            There is NO PARITY in the league as evidenced by the Pacers being 35-1 dogs against the #1 seeded Bulls who weren't even close to being the best team in the East.

                                                            Stern blocked the trade because he didn't want another marquee player going to the #1 marquee team in the league in the LA Lakers.

                                                            Late in the NBA season, you see teams being 60-1 underdogs to win individual games.

                                                            I realize that the fans would love to see 10 straight Lakers-Heat series in a row but thats not good for the long standing of the league.

                                                            Plain and simple, the NBA needs a huge shot of parity among the teams which is what caused the lockout and why Stern blocked this most recent trade of Paul going to the Lakers.
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                                                            • Ace_of_Spades
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 10-14-09
                                                              • 13518

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Ernie Mccracken
                                                              NBA fans don't want super teams. Sorry.
                                                              Laker fans do, smaller team fans do not. Stern has done the right thing, but he has still a long way to go for the NBA to be fair.
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                                                              • Inkwell77
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 02-03-11
                                                                • 3227

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Tree Rollins
                                                                Yeah, Pau Gasol is garbage. He's only one of the 5-best big men in the league. He's probably the best offensive big man in the entire NBA. Might be the best passing big in the league. He has been the 2nd best player on 2 championship teams. Been on 2 All-NBA 2nd teams (meaning he was voted one of the top 10 players in the league, and 2nd best at his position)....And along with him was coming the 6th man of the year, Lamar Odom, who is nearly 7 feet tall and can play anywhere from PG to Center. Trash? You have no idea what you're talking about.
                                                                Would say Howard, Love, Aldridge, Amare, Randolph, Duncan, and Griffin all give him a run, but you're probably right. He is one of the 5 best big men in the league. Quality power forwards and centers are hard to find.
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                                                                • Ace_of_Spades
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 10-14-09
                                                                  • 13518

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Is everyone a fuking Laker fan on this forum.
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                                                                  • gryfyn1
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 03-30-10
                                                                    • 3285

                                                                    #68
                                                                    It surprising, because the team that get screwed the absolute most is New Orleans.

                                                                    Scola, Odom, Martin and Dragic represent about a great a deal that NO could get in return. acquiring three lower cost players that are pretty good is better than anything they can now get.
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                                                                    • Holtgetsback
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 01-04-10
                                                                      • 4655

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Does Stern think he's helping someone by not allowing this trade?

                                                                      He's hurting the future of the Hornets.

                                                                      I'm saying this as a huge Celtics fan, mind you.
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                                                                      • Ace_of_Spades
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 10-14-09
                                                                        • 13518

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by gryfyn1
                                                                        It surprising, because the team that get screwed the absolute most is New Orleans.

                                                                        Scola, Odom, Martin and Dragic represent about a great a deal that NO could get in return. acquiring three lower cost players that are pretty good is better than anything they can now get.
                                                                        Agree, plus a 1st round pick.
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