The very rich fvcking the country as usual

[dante1]

http://www.wltx.com/news/onyourside/article/184072/325/America-At-Tax-Time-What-Cheaters-Cost-Us

It isn't the school teachers and everybody else who has their money taken directly from check to government, it is the fat cats stealing billions of dollars. If the government could collect this money it would put a dent in the deficit.

When you cut through all the bs it ends up that the very richest are doing everything they can to screw the land that gave them all this opportunity. They not only refuse to pay more they don't even want to pay what they owe.

Hire the needed agents and collect this money this step alone will help tremendously. And when caught toss the assholes in jail. It is patriotic to pay your taxes.

[dante1]

385 billion pretty soon it will be real money.

[griz]

Opie1988 thanks a Fukkin lot pal

[CarpeDime]

dont worry soon obama will be out of office and it will be the END OF SOCIALISM in America!

Romney will come in and SLASH taxes for all of these rich people, and then they will NO LONGER BE paying less than they should.

Once again, cutting taxes is the solution to this problem, and the libtards and obamabot socialists just DO NOT GET IT - if you slash taxes on the rich, then you solve the problem of the rich dodging taxes! In fact, if you cut the tax rate on the rich down to zero, then the amount of taxes rich people would be avoiding paying WOULD BE ZERO! PROBLEM SOLVED!! But once again, simple COMMON SENSE that libtards do not possess as a result of going to elitist ivy league colleges, and they would rather CONTINUE COMPLAINING about rich people not paying taxes than SOLVE THE PROBLEM in the simple way I have just outlined

[milwaukee mike]

current spending is around 2.4 trillion/year
current irs federal income taxes are around 1 trillion/year

so they could double taxes on everyone (70% or so top bracket!) and we would still be running deficits

[CarpeDime]

current spending is around 2.4 trillion/year
current irs federal income taxes are around 1 trillion/year

so they could double taxes on everyone (70% or so top bracket!) and we would still be running deficits

exACTLY!

If raising taxes would not stop deficits, then what WOULD stop deficits??? CUTTING taxes! Um, COMMON FUKIN SENSE people!

[opie1988]

dont worry soon obama will be out of office and it will be the END OF SOCIALISM in America!
Romney will come in and SLASH taxes for all of these rich people, and then they will NO LONGER BE paying less than they should.
Once again, cutting taxes is the solution to this problem, and the libtards and obamabot socialists just DO NOT GET IT - if you slash taxes on the rich, then you solve the problem of the rich dodging taxes! once again, simple COMMON SENSE that libtards do not possess as a result of going to elitist ivy league colleges

Look here, you hippie fukk......shouldn't you be running around nude at the Coachella Festival this week? Smoking dope and playing grab ass with all your gender neutral buddies??

Fukk paying more taxes simply because one makes more money. Why should you be penalized simply because you were able to rise above the norm? This is the fukkin' USA, PAL. CAPITALISM IN ITS FINEST FORM!!

Don't treat the forum like your own little personal grievance board against the gov't, pal. This ain't the Washington Post. How about you & Dax go light up a few j's and plant some fukkin' trees? Or just go defecate in that hole in your yard that doubles as a master bath.

Leave America's issues to Americans, pal. You're a fukkin Costa Rican. Worry about teaching your countrymen how to make ice cubes and potable water and then come see me again.

[CarpeDime]

playing grab ass with all your gender neutral buddies??

do.......NOT........make fun of my friends who happen not to subscribe to your PATERNALISTIC limited definitions of gender

here is a video of a couple of friends of mine and I want you to EDUCATE yourself on the subject of gender fluidity, and the concept of gender queer, ok pal??

<iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/0KufijVBiWo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Sam Odom]

Lucy is cute

[dante1]

dont worry soon obama will be out of office and it will be the END OF SOCIALISM in America!

Romney will come in and SLASH taxes for all of these rich people, and then they will NO LONGER BE paying less than they should.

Once again, cutting taxes is the solution to this problem, and the libtards and obamabot socialists just DO NOT GET IT - if you slash taxes on the rich, then you solve the problem of the rich dodging taxes! In fact, if you cut the tax rate on the rich down to zero, then the amount of taxes rich people would be avoiding paying WOULD BE ZERO! PROBLEM SOLVED!! But once again, simple COMMON SENSE that libtards do not possess as a result of going to elitist ivy league colleges, and they would rather CONTINUE COMPLAINING about rich people not paying taxes than SOLVE THE PROBLEM in the simple way I have just outlined

I got it, I get it. Solve the problem by cutting their taxes even more. Makes sense to me. If we don't tax them they won't cheat and then all that trickle down stuff happens. Yeah, I think we tried that before and it was a smashing success.

You're a fvckin genius.

[King Mayan]

30+ years of Reaganomics has worked great for the rich... Capitalism is dead.. Corporatism is alive... And these neo cons are still crying.

Poor sheep keep voting against their interest.

[dante1]

30+ years of Reaganomics has worked great for the rich... Capitalism is dead.. Corporatism is alive... And these neo cons are still crying.

Poor sheep keep voting against their interest.

Yep, I'll never understand it, never.

[CarpeDime]

I got it, I get it. Solve the problem by cutting their taxes even more. Makes sense to me. If we don't tax them they won't cheat and then all that trickle down stuff happens. Yeah, I think we tried that before and it was a smashing success.

You're a fvckin genius.

romney will be president and so America will be great again so you better get used to it ok pal?

Here is a primer on what is going to happen:

Slash taxes, mostly for rich people
Medicaid - GONE
Medicare - GONE
Social Security - GONE
Welfare - GONE
Guns free to defend yourself
Christian values in schools and public places
Sharia Law - yeah right, NOT A CHANCE son
Terrorists - slaughtered
Muslims - back to where they came from, NOT IN THE US
Illegal immigrants - back to where they came from
Wall St regulations - GONE
business regulations - GONE
insurance regulations - GONE
bank regulations - GONE
jobs regulations - GONE
Unions - DONE
minimum wage - GONE

got it pal? in other words, the country will be the way it was MEANT to be and the way it was when we started

plan accordingly or move to greece

[Jimmy0607]

The only fact here is that carpedime is a nutjob

[Sam Odom]

The only fact here is that carpedime is a nutjob

too much poppers use... killed 1/3 of his brain cells

[InTheDrink]

The only fact here is that carpedime is a nutjob

whoosh

[dante1]

Mr. Carp, at first glance I thought you were just really stupid. I was very wrong you sir are a complete moron.

[CarpeDime]

Mr. Carp, at first glance I thought you were just really stupid. I was very wrong you sir are a complete moron.

i'm smarter then you pal

[King Mayan]

Mr. Carp, at first glance I thought you were just really stupid. I was very wrong you sir are a complete moron.

Dante he's being sarcastic..

[Deuce]

Capitalism will be the reason this country will fall further and further behind.

[InTheDrink]

romney will be president and so America will be great again so you better get used to it ok pal?

Here is a primer on what is going to happen:

Slash taxes, mostly for rich people
Medicaid - GONE
Medicare - GONE
Social Security - GONE
Welfare - GONE
Guns free to defend yourself
Christian values in schools and public places
Sharia Law - yeah right, NOT A CHANCE son
Terrorists - slaughtered
Muslims - back to where they came from, NOT IN THE US
Illegal immigrants - back to where they came from
Wall St regulations - GONE
business regulations - GONE
insurance regulations - GONE
bank regulations - GONE
jobs regulations - GONE
Unions - DONE
minimum wage - GONE

got it pal? in other words, the country will be the way it was MEANT to be and the way it was when we started

plan accordingly or move to greece

if anyone read this post as literal then you shouldn't be allowed to vote

romney is obama light....literally and figuratively

[opie1988]

Capitalism will be the reason this country will fall further and further behind.

Will it, Counselor?? Please.

[Deuce]

Will it, Counselor?? Please.

Proletariat, Bourgeoisie conflict has and will continue to be an issue. Middle class being depleted, top heavy economy can only sustain for so long. It will collapse. I am a repub. I just am a realist and can put partisan aside to see what is actually happening.

[opie1988]

Proletariat, Bourgeoisie conflict has and will continue to be an issue. Middle class being depleted, top heavy economy can only sustain for so long. It will collapse. I am a repub. I just am a realist and can put partisan aside to see what is actually happening.

God....to be so smart at such a young age.

Sounds like you've got it all figured out. This is certainly not the mindset of anyone who harbors hopes of achieving much success. Seems more like the preliminary thoughts of a guy who will always be full of excuses as to why he never achieved all he hoped. Because if this is truly how you feel at your age, you might as well just give up.

What's the point of working hard if its all gonna collapse soon anyway?

Fortunately for me, I'm not hitching mine or my childs future on the pessimistic prognostications of a mid-20 something. I choose to believe that America will continue to be great, and that her best will continue to shine.

[McBa1n]

30+ years of Reaganomics has worked great for the rich... Capitalism is dead.. Corporatism is alive... And these neo cons are still crying.

Poor sheep keep voting against their interest.

Pro post. Spot on.

[Deuce]

God....to be so smart at such a young age.

Sounds like you've got it all figured out. This is certainly not the mindset of anyone who harbors hopes of achieving much success. Seems more like the preliminary thoughts of a guy who will always be full of excuses as to why he never achieved all he hoped. Because if this is truly how you feel at your age, you might as well just give up.

What's the point of working hard if its all gonna collapse soon anyway?

Fortunately for me, I'm not hitching mine or my childs future on the pessimistic prognostications of a mid-20 something. I choose to believe that America will continue to be great, and that her best will continue to shine.

For this exact reason many keep voting down taxing the ultra rich because they feel that someday in the future they will be that rich and God forbid someone tax them unjustly.

I suggest you do some reading during the time this country has been most successful and see how much the wealthy were getting taxed then. I think my knowledge in this subject will surprise you even more. I don't pull this shit out of my ass. As stated I was raised and currently as registered a conservative. I just know how to also read between the lines. Something at some point has got to give.

[itchypickle]

It was brought up during the Senate vote today on the Buffett rule - which failed by the way- that if 'the super rich are taxed fairly' as screamed by the left....under current 'super rich' who live in the U.S. and file with the IRS, including Mark Cuban and all the other uber rich - it would raise $46 Billion in revenue, over TEN YEARS, yet we ran a deficit through excessive spending of $300 Billion LAST MONTH!

So basically you can raise taxes on those who already support the country through their taxes as it is...and in TEN YEARS you will still only raise a portion of one month worth of spending under Obama. Even the White House has stated it's not about paying it toward the deficit, it's 'moral and the right thing to do'

Numbers dont lie - the top 1% pay 36% of ALL taxes, the top 10% that includes them pay 72% of ALL taxes. Yet some still call for more?

[Sam Odom]

Opie , most of the posters on here are kids with no idea what is what - they parrot words that sound cool

[Deuce]

Numbers dont lie - the top 1% pay 36% of ALL taxes, the top 10% that includes them pay 72% of ALL taxes. Yet some still call for more?

“Success is the product of having been born in this country, a place where education and research are subsidized, where there is an orderly market, where the private sectors reap enormous benefits from public investment. For someone to assert that he or she has grown wealthy in America without the benefit of substantial public investments is pure hubris…what is it worth to operate in such a marvelous system?” -Bill Gates, Sr.

Here is some of my own research...

When the annual rate of productivity in the United States was at its highest from 1951-1963, top marginal tax rates were also at their peak. Incomes of $400,000 or more were taxed at a marginal rate of 91%. At $100,000, the marginal rate was 75%. As years went on, the tax rate declined and so did the productivity rate. From 1995-2004, the United States productivity rate was much higher than that of the EU but GB, France, Belgium, Norway, Germany, Finland, Italy, and Ireland had higher taxation than the US and had greater productivity results between 1970-1990. They go on to explain that more taxation gives opportunity to growth in education, on health, on training, and on other key essential contributes to society, providing opportunity for the spread of human capital. Other ideas mentioned to increase productivity is to give employee based ownership of businesses instead of proprietor ownership. Employee ownership increases productivity and gives reasoning for employees to increase their potential because they have stake in revenue shares rather than trading hours for dollars.
The final piece of the conclusion mentions how lopsided the elites are to the rest of the common citizenry. Mentioned was that in 1982, company CEO’s made on average 42 times that of the average wage worker. In 2004 that figure jumped to 431 times that of what a common wage worker makes. In 2004, Microsoft founder Bill Gates’ net worth alone was more than twice the direct stock holdings of the entire bottom half of the US population. This goes to show that in the elites of America, there are two classes. There is the top two percent and everyone else. The conclusion is a strong interpretation of earned and unearned in the knowledge era of the economy.

Break it down for me Opie. I am naive.

[Sam Odom]

I suggest you do some reading during the time this country has been most successful and see how much the wealthy were getting taxed then.

what the 'rate' is and what is paid to the govt are two different numbers - but you are so sharp you know that

for others check ADJUSTED gross income ... this is where the Buffet Rule is soooooo misunderstood

[Deuce]

Sammy

Explain to me Prof. Odom how corporate moguls get away with making 431 times the wage laborer. How is that good for the economy? How is that just? Why isn't this the case in countries like Japan?

[Sam Odom]

deuce , no one changes their mind on the internet... Takes real world experiences

[opie1988]

Sammy
Explain to me Prof. Odom how corporate moguls get away with making 431 times the wage laborer. How is that good for the economy? How is that just? Why isn't this the case in countries like Japan?

Yeah...you sound real fukkin Conservative with a statement like this. Again, you've clearly got it all figured out. You're probably the smartest kid in your class. But what the fukk would I know?

I suggest you keep your current attitude that we are all fukked. I've seen you post stuff like this numerous times before, so it clearly pervades your thought process. If you think you can think like this and maintain the proper mindset to get ahead, well then you're obviously a complete fukkin idiot.

[King Mayan]

Sammy

Explain to me Prof. Odom how corporate moguls get away with making 431 times the wage laborer. How is that good for the economy? How is that just? Why isn't this the case in countries like Japan?

Thats when CEO/owners were patriotic, now they just push commie-china products.. And the sheep love it.. Just ask sammy how much he loves Commie-Mart.

[Deuce]

Yeah...you sound real fukkin Conservative with a statement like this. Again, you've clearly got it all figured out. You're probably the smartest kid in your class. But what the fukk would I know?

I suggest you keep your current attitude that we are all fukked. I've seen you post stuff like this numerous times before, so it clearly pervades your thought process. If you think you can think like this and maintain the proper mindset to get ahead, well then you're obviously a complete fukkin idiot.

You know I have no intentions on stopping at a bachelor degree. Get my number from marbles. Gimme a ring sometime and maybe you can teach me why I should bow down to crooked CEO's.