just my luck (betislands racebook)

**Sam Odom** · 06-18-12, 03:08 PM

they cold called me today... I'm glad I passed on them again.

**wtt0315** · 06-18-12, 03:13 PM

Internet / 0

Ticket #: 155391

suppose to paid 631
my own stupid fault

RAC

Racing ticket #10500
Jun-18 THI R3 1.00 USD PK3 2,4,6/3,5/5,6

12 / 0

89

WIN

06/18/2012 02:51:15 PM

**BEANTOWNJIM** · 06-18-12, 03:15 PM

THIS IS VERY DISTURBING I BET AN OCCASIONAL HORSE BUT THOSE ODDS ARE LOUSY

THIS BOOK HAS MY NUMBER I HAVE MADE 6 BETS INCLUDING THE BONUS MONEY JON GAVE ME AND I AM 0-6 WITH BET ISLANDS

IF THEY DONT LET YOU WIN EVERY NOW AND THEN WHATS THE SENSE IN PLAYING THERE.

I AM WAITING ON MY CHECK FROM HERITAGE THEN I MIGHT RE UP WITH BET ISLANDS OR BACK TO HERITAGE I HAVENT DECIDED YET

I DONT GRIN

IF I DONT WIN

**Betislands** · 06-18-12, 03:21 PM

Hey WTT,

Please contact us so we can look into this .

Thanks,

Jon

**wtt0315** · 06-18-12, 03:22 PM

jon i contacted mia i also sent you and cs a email about 10 mins ago
thanks

**HedgeHog** · 06-18-12, 03:22 PM

Cris or 5 Dimes is where you want to bet your ponies.

**itriedsohard** · 06-18-12, 03:22 PM

Nick - "are you playing baseball anywhere?"
me- " no can you take me off the list, I'm not playing anymore"
Nick - "I'll call you for football"
Wtf??

**wtt0315** · 06-18-12, 03:27 PM

i honestly never exected a 2-1,a 5-1, and a 2-1 in a pick 3 with 6 horse fields to pay 631 dollars

**Betislands** · 06-18-12, 03:29 PM

Hi WTT,

If you check our horse rules on our website :

http://betislands.ag/racebook/hrules/tracks.html

You will find the listed payouts on the track you bet.

Thanks,

Jon

50 PROPOSITIONS (DOUBLES, EXACTAS, QUINELLAS, PICK3, TRIFECTAS, SUPERFECTAS)

DOUBLES, QUINELLAS, EXACTAS 50-1
PICK3, TRIFECTAS, SUPERFECTAS 100-1
PARLAYS WIN 50-1 PLACE 25-1 SHOW 10-1
MAXIMUM NET PROFIT OF $5,000

**HedgeHog** · 06-18-12, 03:30 PM

According to their limits (see below), you should be getting $401. Still way too low for a pick-three limit for a major Book.
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DOUBLES, QUINELLAS, EXACTAS 200 -1
PICK3, TRIFECTA, SUPERFECTA 400-1
PARLAYS WIN 200-1 PLACE 100-1 SHOW 50-1
MAXIMUM NET PROFIT OF $30,000

Correction: The above odds are for A tracks only. OP does only get $101 for a $600-plus Pick Three. OUCH!

**BEANTOWNJIM** · 06-18-12, 03:32 PM

HERITAGE HAS TRACK ODDS I BELIEVE

I HIT A FEW HORSES BUT THEY WERE JUST AVERAGE PRICES 3/1 OR 4/1

I AM A MAN OF MY WORD SO I WILL MAKE ANOTHER DEPOSIT WITH BET ISLANDS LIKE I SAID I WOULD

BUT I BETTER START WINNING THERE I AM SICK AND TIRED OF LOSING AT THIS SPORTSBOOK

I AM GETTING SO DESPERATE AT BET ISLANDS I MIGHT ASK MIA WHO SHE LIKES

I AM O-6 AT BET ISLANDS I DONT THINK I HAVE EVER WON A BET AT THIS SPORTSBOOK ITS TIME TO CHANGE THAT NUMBER BOYS

I'LL HAVE A GRIN

WHEN I GET MY FIRST BET ISLANDS WIN

**Betislands** · 06-18-12, 03:34 PM

BTJ,

If you don't win next time you can always ask for our 20% cash rebate on all your losses monthly we credit that as cash with no rollover you can cash out or keep playing at will.

Cheers!

Jon

**BEANTOWNJIM** · 06-18-12, 03:40 PM

I AM A GAMBLER NOT A CHARITY CASE

I DONT GO LOOKING FOR HANDOUTS

I JUST HAVE TO GET ON A GOOD WINNING STREAK ITS COMING FELLAS

I AM SENDING OUT 800 DOLLARS AGAIN TOMORROW JON SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO GIVE ME SOME STEAM PLAYS AND KEEP THE CUSTOMERS HAPPY

I HAVE SOME KEY INFORMATION COMING LATER THIS WEEK BOYS STAY TUNED

**wtt0315** · 06-18-12, 03:41 PM

jon replied to your email
thanks

**jjgold** · 06-18-12, 03:50 PM

Never ever bet horses offshore

It is the biggest sucker bet you can ever make

Play with legal usa shops hooked into totes

**HedgeHog** · 06-18-12, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Never ever bet horses offshore

It is the biggest sucker bet you can ever make

Play with legal usa shops hooked into totes

Shitty advice. Play at Cris or 5-Dimes where you get up to 8% in rebates on your action. Plus your bets don't influence the pari-mutual odds (and you get full track odds).

PS How's that OKC series bet looking? Yep, we should take your advice on wagering.

**jjgold** · 06-18-12, 04:07 PM

Hedger your clueless

Betting at 5 dimes or Bookmaker is not tote betting meaning your bets are not automatically going into track pools

They can easily say after a big win you bet too late, ect

Its unregulated

Bet at legal usa shops only as far as horses, unlimited payouts without delays

**HedgeHog** · 06-18-12, 04:19 PM

Bets are time stamped, so there's no problem verifying. Also, a large Book like Cris is not going to stiff a legit big winner--it's bad for business. Hard to believe you would try to sway action from a top-rated SBR sponsor Book--who pays your salary in part. Now that's clueless.

**kmarinouofm** · 06-18-12, 04:26 PM

its really sad how square Coach has become.. they need to hire a new intern to be JJ

**Seattle Slew** · 06-18-12, 04:29 PM

The USA shops make it real easy to cash out and move money. For me, that's where their advantage ends. Their rebates are awful compared to the offshore books.

If you're always looking to cash out, the USA shops would be best. If your confident in keeping money offshore, the rebates are very solid. But you have to watch where you bet, and the limits on payouts.

**letshitthis** · 06-18-12, 04:33 PM

why not bet on twinspires.com...normal odds and legal in us?

**davidchong** · 06-18-12, 04:33 PM

bet @ 5dimes or bodog.

**Seattle Slew** · 06-18-12, 04:38 PM

Remember there are many states in the US where pari-mutual betting is illegal, and you can't bet horses with any of the legal shops.

So many people have no choice but to go offshore.

**davidchong** · 06-18-12, 04:40 PM

inclusive carib has 1000-1 limit payoff for pick 3

**wtt0315** · 06-18-12, 04:45 PM

yeah. i was playing at heritage the last week and they pay full track odds, and forgot about their payouts there. Honestly it was a 12 pick 3 and it had pretty much all the favs. if it hit i was expecting a 30-40 dollar payout. I was very surpised to see a 2-1,5-1, and 2-1 pay 633.00 dollars.. all were 6 horse fields too. I debated this morning wheather to deposit at heritage or betislands. Both have been good to me. Jon and the guys are great for stuff and i love the payouts. I decided to go back with them because of that. I am just kicking myself for costing myself 533.00 dollars. It sucks but its my fault for not remembering the payouts.

**jjgold** · 06-18-12, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by HedgeHog

Bets are time stamped, so there's no problem verifying. Also, a large Book like Cris is not going to stiff a legit big winner--it's bad for business. Hard to believe you would try to sway action from a top-rated SBR sponsor Book--who pays your salary in part. Now that's clueless.

Anyone playing horses at unregulated horse books has lost their minds unless your making low stakes wagers or payouts are low stakes

LOL..................win 75,000 at 5 Dimes on a lucky triple and you will get 20 excuses why the bet does not count, Tony is biggest creep in the industry. I would never give that book one dime.

Be smart

**Jeffie** · 06-18-12, 04:53 PM

if your state allows it play at TVG

**jjgold** · 06-18-12, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by Jeffie

if your state allows it play at TVG

Yes places like this..bet right into the gate too
No bullshit bet does not count like many offshore books pull

**davidchong** · 06-18-12, 04:58 PM

I am betting at OTB since offshore racebook dont want my action, the OTB is paying me rebates from 5% to 24% for each dollar wagered.

**HedgeHog** · 06-18-12, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Anyone playing horses at unregulated horse books has lost their minds unless your making low stakes wagers or payouts are low stakes

LOL..................win 75,000 at 5 Dimes on a lucky triple and you will get 20 excuses why the bet does not count, Tony is biggest creep in the industry. I would never give that book one dime.

Be smart

And what's your excuse for not betting at CRIS--are they going to stiff you too? How many other A+ Books should I avoid?

**rumple** · 06-18-12, 05:07 PM

Thats one of the most bizarre payouts ive ever seen! The ML's for the winners were 3-1,3-1, and 4-1 in 6 and 7 horse fields!

**jjgold** · 06-18-12, 05:08 PM

I have always said from day 1 never play horses at offshore books

That is not their strength

A+ or D

If you want to bet $2-$20 win bets fine play anywhere

If you bet exotics you are crazy betting offshore

**wtt0315** · 06-18-12, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by rumple

Thats one of the most bizarre payouts ive ever seen! The ML's for the winners were 3-1,3-1, and 4-1 in 6 and 7 horse fields!

yeah i was suprised also. the 2-1 in the first leg ended up beating a 3-5 shot.. but still. it was crazy

**LordVodka** · 06-18-12, 05:13 PM

Can anyone access betisland's casino? For some reason I can't access it.