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  • JAKEPEAVY21
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    #71
    Originally posted by jackpot269
    I dont know that much about this but watched the video jake posted, I don't understand why this guy that works in the back has his hands on her chips? To take the 15k. Im sure I missed something in that part!
    If he was in cahoots with her for a certain % of her winnings(say 10%), maybe he felt entitled to take that 15k after she gave Garrett back roughly 150k as it impacted his pocketbook...
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    • d2bets
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      #72
      Just watched the hand for the first time. She's just fukkin dumb. She's not cheating. I wanna play with her.

      I read Garrett's diatribe. He's speculating based on intelligent rationality. But she's dumb. That's it.
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      • JAKEPEAVY21
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        #73
        Originally posted by d2bets
        Just watched the hand for the first time. She's just fukkin dumb. She's not cheating. I wanna play with her.

        I read Garrett's diatribe. He's speculating based on intelligent rationality. But she's dumb. That's it.
        You probably don't know a lot of other things that have come out that are very sus then...

        Not sure you can intelligently comment without knowing some of the other facts.
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        • d2bets
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          #74
          Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
          You probably don't know a lot of other things that have come out that are very sus then...

          Not sure you can intelligently comment without knowing some of the other facts.
          Show me the proof. If she cheated, it should be cut and dry. Shouldn't require a 25 page dissertation.
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          • Optional
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            #75
            Originally posted by d2bets
            Show me the proof. If she cheated, it should be cut and dry. Shouldn't require a 25 page dissertation.
            There is no proof.

            But also too much weirdness, especially with the staff member who palmed her chips, to say either way if she cheated or was just playing badly.


            My suspicion is that more people know what was going on than it appears. Garrett is on that list.
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            • fried cheese
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              #76
              Originally posted by d2bets
              Just watched the hand for the first time. She's just fukkin dumb. She's not cheating. I wanna play with her.

              I read Garrett's diatribe. He's speculating based on intelligent rationality. But she's dumb. That's it.
              of course you want to play with her. she plays horribly and gets tons of money for free to play with from a guy who also needs to be staked in order to stake her terrible play. then if she beats you she will just give you the money back and when she leaves the table you can just steal her chips and she wont care.
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              • d2bets
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                #77
                Originally posted by fried cheese
                of course you want to play with her. she plays horribly and gets tons of money for free to play with from a guy who also needs to be staked in order to stake her terrible play. then if she beats you she will just give you the money back and when she leaves the table you can just steal her chips and she wont care.


                Garrett should just drop it in exchange for a $1+ million winner-take-all against her. He can set up to ensure no cheating.
                Last edited by d2bets; 10-08-22, 12:35 PM.
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                • JAKEPEAVY21
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by d2bets


                  Garrett should just drop it in exchange for a $1+ million winner-take-all against her. He can set up to ensure no cheating.
                  She challenged him to a heads up match not sure if he accepted.
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                  • d2bets
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                    She challenged him to a heads up match not sure if he accepted.
                    He should go away forever if he declines.
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                    • fried cheese
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                      #80
                      she says she will do a lot of things. she agreed to take a lie detector with an iris scan and said she is going to press charges against that guy who stole from her. i doubt she will do either. i think its unlikely she will play a heads up match vs garrett unless she is getting freerolled by the event organizer.
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                      • d2bets
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                        #81
                        Originally posted by fried cheese
                        she says she will do a lot of things. she agreed to take a lie detector with an iris scan and said she is going to press charges against that guy who stole from her. i doubt she will do either. i think its unlikely she will play a heads up match vs garrett unless she is getting freerolled by the event organizer.
                        She's a hot mess, but that doesn't mean she's a cheater.
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                        • fried cheese
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                          #82
                          Originally posted by d2bets
                          She's a hot mess, but that doesn't mean she's a cheater.
                          well i think its almost 99% they are cheating by soft playing each other at the very least.
                          Last edited by fried cheese; 10-08-22, 01:56 PM. Reason: meant soft playing
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                          • blankoblanco
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                            • 11-18-11
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                            #83
                            Having just read Robbi's latest long twitter post, I have to admit I found it fairly convincing. Unfortunately it's way more convincing than her behavior, her demeanor, and every word she said during the actual hand in question - let alone all the other weird aspects that have popped up. So it's hard to know what to make of it all. I'm still torn and not entirely sure either way, eagerly awaiting a smoking gun though
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                            • d2bets
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                              #84
                              Originally posted by blankoblanco
                              Having just read Robbi's latest long twitter post, I have to admit I found it fairly convincing. Unfortunately it's way more convincing than her behavior, her demeanor, and every word she said during the actual hand in question - let alone all the other weird aspects that have popped up. So it's hard to know what to make of it all. I'm still torn and not entirely sure either way, eagerly awaiting a smoking gun though
                              Her behavior is that of a dumbfukk on drugs. She ain't even sharp enough to cheat and not get caught red-handed.
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                              • Optional
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                                #85
                                Originally posted by d2bets
                                Her behavior is that of a dumbfukk on drugs. She ain't even sharp enough to cheat and not get caught red-handed.
                                Did you know she has won all 3 sessions (think it was 3) she played there? And two of them were over 100k profit, even taking into account the money she gave back.

                                Dumb luck over 3 sessions possible but another weird thing if writing her off as just an idiot player.
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                                • juicername
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                                  • 10-14-15
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                                  #86
                                  Garrett with a loooooooong breakdown and "evidence" of cheating. Actually make good points.



                                  (hope link is OK).
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                                  • Auto Donk
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                                    • 09-03-13
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                                    #87
                                    it's pretty clear to me the kid was pissed at her giving back the dough, took his ten percent from her remaining stack......
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                                    • Auto Donk
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                                      • 09-03-13
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                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by fried cheese
                                      well i think its almost 99% they are cheating by soft playing each other at the very least.
                                      the aq hand shows collusion of the bobbywaves / __________ (snot nosed avatar, can't remember his name) type.......

                                      guy pointing on his shirt was "fold" symbol.....
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                                      • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                        it's pretty clear to me the kid was pissed at her giving back the dough, took his ten percent from her remaining stack......
                                        Definitely seems like a reasonable assumption and the math add up....
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                                        • blankoblanco
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                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by juicername
                                          Garrett with a loooooooong breakdown and "evidence" of cheating. Actually make good points.



                                          (hope link is OK).
                                          Thanks for posting this. Reading it for the first time, I'm now around 90% sure that she cheated in some way (I started at 60/40 in her favor when it first started to unfold but was open to more evidence - I'm willing to admit when I'm wrong)

                                          This is really damning and compelling stuff. And I will say, one of the first things I pointed out was that Garrett didn't care about the money he lost in the pot. Anyone who thought that was why he was upset hasn't watched him play. He can win that back in a minute. He's concerned about the integrity of the game he's playing in, and for good reason. This is his livelihood, and the idea that cheating could be involved in his main game has way more implications than losing one big pot
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                                          • juicername
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                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by blankoblanco
                                            Thanks for posting this. Reading it for the first time, I'm now around 90% sure that she cheated in some way (I started at 60/40 in her favor when it first started to unfold but was open to more evidence - I'm willing to admit when I'm wrong)

                                            This is really damning and compelling stuff. And I will say, one of the first things I pointed out was that Garrett didn't care about the money he lost in the pot. Anyone who thought that was why he was upset hasn't watched him play. He can win that back in a minute. He's concerned about the integrity of the game he's playing in, and for good reason. This is his livelihood, and the idea that cheating could be involved in his main game has way more implications than losing one big pot
                                            Same, I was 99% sure of not cheating and now lean more towards cheating than not.
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                                            • OldBill
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                                              #92
                                              someone replayed the whole video of that hand she was using a ring that vibrates the one with a red stone .... he spotted her holding the ring on her chin before making the call then after wards dropped her hand below table and when it came back the ring was removed. At 3:50 mark you will see the ring is gone.
                                              Last edited by OldBill; 10-12-22, 11:25 AM.
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                                              • Auto Donk
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                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by OldBill
                                                someone replayed the whole video of that hand she was using a ring that vibrates the one with a red stone .... he spotted her holding the ring on her chin before making the call then after wards dropped her hand below table and when it came back the ring was removed. At 3:50 mark you will see the ring is gone.
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                                                • cankid
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                                                  #94
                                                  quite telling really
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                                                  • Jayvegas420
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                                                    #95
                                                    Donker, will you tell them again why this happened ....
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                                                    • Auto Donk
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                                                      #96
                                                      bitch supposedly passed a lie detector test.......

                                                      faced some lame questions by doubters tom dwan some other dude on ingram's podcast, she flipped them......

                                                      it's beginning to look like my initial thoughts (she's just a terrible player) are being borne out......
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                                                      • Optional
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                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                                        bitch supposedly passed a lie detector test.......

                                                        faced some lame questions by doubters tom dwan some other dude on ingram's podcast, she flipped them......

                                                        it's beginning to look like my initial thoughts (she's just a terrible player) are being borne out......
                                                        Such a credible pair. Ingram a drama queen crackhead who sells assumptions as evidence and smearing people for pay, and Dwan a bastian of honesty & openness who anyone should trust with his word about money. /ENDSARC

                                                        I'd trust this weird woman to hold my bank roll ahead of anyone else involved in this mess, or those making money by "investigating" it. Still waiting to see this Gman dude outed for not being straight up too. -500 that is coming. I am more convinced than ever that guy knows a lot more than he has said.
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                                                        • fried cheese
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                                                          #98
                                                          i guess im leaning toward her being innocent now. no hard evidence but its still hard with how strange and shady she acts. even with the polygraph she cancelled after already agreeing to take persson's lie detector test with the iris scan and did the one her pr firm set up for her.
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                                                          • Auto Donk
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                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by Optional
                                                            Such a credible pair. Ingram a drama queen crackhead who sells assumptions as evidence and smearing people for pay, and Dwan a bastian of honesty & openness who anyone should trust with his word about money. /ENDSARC

                                                            I'd trust this weird woman to hold my bank roll ahead of anyone else involved in this mess, or those making money by "investigating" it. Still waiting to see this Gman dude outed for not being straight up too. -500 that is coming. I am more convinced than ever that guy knows a lot more than he has said.
                                                            I'd let her hold my rubber fist after I inserted it in her vag, rolled her over, grabbed her ass with both hands and went to town on her back door (someone's gotta hold it in her or I'll bang it right out of her).....
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                                                            • cincinnatikid513
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                                                              • 11-23-17
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                                                              #100
                                                              i don't think this group of morons had the brains to pull off cheating, also wouldn't u pick a better spot, hustler live casino def needs clean up the stream maybe do some background checks on employees make sure players aren't cahooting with each other
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                                                              • Jayvegas420
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                                                                #101
                                                                buddy flipped out cause he realized he staked an idiot.
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                                                                • blankoblanco
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                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                                                  i don't think this group of morons had the brains to pull off cheating, also wouldn't u pick a better spot
                                                                  But this line of thinking harkens back to something I said earlier in this thread. Basically that it goes both ways. First of all, if these morons were cheating I'd argue they didn't pull it off. As expected. Everyone's suspicious of them after this chick has played only a few sessions

                                                                  And wouldn't you pick a better spot than this whether you were cheating or not? It's just a bizarrely stupid call in any scenario, and it went against how she'd been playing in all previous hours at the table

                                                                  I try to imagine her as someone who isn't cheating, and I just can't make any sense of the call or her behavior when compared to anything that came before. There are so many little things that make it so weird to figure out
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                                                                  • cincinnatikid513
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                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by blankoblanco
                                                                    But this line of thinking harkens back to something I said earlier in this thread. Basically that it goes both ways. First of all, if these morons were cheating I'd argue they didn't pull it off. As expected. Everyone's suspicious of them after this chick has played only a few sessions

                                                                    And wouldn't you pick a better spot than this whether you were cheating or not? It's just a bizarrely stupid call in any scenario, and it went against how she'd been playing in all previous hours at the table

                                                                    I try to imagine her as someone who isn't cheating, and I just can't make any sense of the call or her behavior when compared to anything that came before. There are so many little things that make it so weird to figure out
                                                                    i really believe she is a noob and she just wanted to beat garrett in a big pot so badly , i tell u one thing it's alot easier call off 100k bet when ur playing with someone else's money
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                                                                    • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by Optional
                                                                      Such a credible pair. Ingram a drama queen crackhead who sells assumptions as evidence and smearing people for pay, and Dwan a bastian of honesty & openness who anyone should trust with his word about money. /ENDSARC

                                                                      I'd trust this weird woman to hold my bank roll ahead of anyone else involved in this mess, or those making money by "investigating" it. Still waiting to see this Gman dude outed for not being straight up too. -500 that is coming. I am more convinced than ever that guy knows a lot more than he has said.
                                                                      I don't think that is going to happen, pretty certain he has a great reputation but nothing surprises me anymore nowadays.
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                                                                      • blankoblanco
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                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                                                        i really believe she is a noob and she just wanted to beat garrett in a big pot so badly , i tell u one thing it's alot easier call off 100k bet when ur playing with someone else's money
                                                                        Yeah, that's possible. But then I wonder why nothing close to this ever happened before, because Garrett has always had a huge target on his back in this game. A fish with money who just wants to get you is one thing, this was on a different level

                                                                        And her demeanor when calling with the J high is so exceptionally strange. She had an aura of confidence about it that just doesn't make any sense to me unless you know J high is in the lead

                                                                        But I've gone back and forth about this, so I'm mostly just thinking out loud. The fact that she supposedly passed a polygraph test is also a bit perplexing, although I suspect it was not done in a rigorous way at all. It all adds up to an odd case any way you slice it
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