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  • hunterwrot
    SBR Sharp
    • 02-15-10
    • 373

    #1
    heads up
    why do people think the only play heads up is all in or fold? i was in a heads up shootout on pokerstars and i won the first 4 matches just waiting on a hand and limping. every time the other player went all in with junk and i won. on my 5th i have aq suited and i limp, dude goes all in, i call him, he has ace jack suited hearts. flop was all hearts. i got unlucky but still cashed 50 and if i won that hand i would have went to next level and probably had another donk doing the same thing. then i play an 18 player tourney get to heads up and blinds are only 300 600. dude goes all in every hand til i call him with ak and his jack 2 wins.
  • Czu81
    SBR MVP
    • 10-25-09
    • 1082

    #2
    after reading this I'm thinking about trying HU on stars...
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    • Hotdiggity11
      SBR MVP
      • 01-09-09
      • 4916

      #3
      Eh, bigger advantage for you. Most people are simply scared to play a hand post-flop. You will only hit a pair on the flop a little less than 1/3 of the time.


      Also, keep in mind, the all-in move actually helps newbies overcome most of the advantage of their more skilled adversaries. It puts the better player to a decision and, most of the time, they won't have a hand to call with and hands they will call with will only be between a 55-65% favorite. The better players much prefer slowly chipping away at your stack with superior post-flop play and keep the pots small unless they have a trappable hand.
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      • Lincoln73
        SBR Sharp
        • 02-12-10
        • 454

        #4
        playing heads up on pokerstars, i will often dump the 1st few hands just to give the image of an extremely tight player. The other guy usually starts getting overaggressive with raises and if i get a premium hand i quickly reraise all in, which would induce a fold with decent players, but these jabronies seem unable to admit defeat and will often call with garbage hands. Have won good money playing in the $10.00 heads up games at PS.
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        • OmgUrMom
          Restricted User
          • 02-07-10
          • 8481

          #5
          need some actual hand histories to have any idea what is actually going on here....
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          • whatsgood5
            Restricted User
            • 10-13-09
            • 15359

            #6
            What the hell were you playing? A $2 tournament?
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            • hunterwrot
              SBR Sharp
              • 02-15-10
              • 373

              #7
              no a 10 dollar heads up shootout with six hundred or so players. i take pride in my heads up game but now it seems players either fold or all in and if they limp it means they have a monster ak aa kk qq or jj. Im not complaining at all i like money so i love playing with losing players. I agree with hot diggity. it is because they dont know how to play a hand post flop if they do not make their hand.
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              • diamond
                SBR MVP
                • 02-09-06
                • 3636

                #8
                I prefer headsup to anything.
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                • kzee89
                  SBR Hustler
                  • 03-08-10
                  • 78

                  #9
                  Heads up is like a 50/50 shot at winning, literally anything goes. I have been bad beated so many times from playing head up and having the best possible hand at the flop.
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                  • Bswitz32
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 07-24-09
                    • 460

                    #10
                    I completely agree. All in or fold is just for the novice. They cant play post flop at all. Oh well more of an advantage to you'

                    BOL
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                    • JohnnyDr@ma
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 02-10-10
                      • 102

                      #11
                      i can almost bet you OP is talking about the HU hyper turbo at 620 or 1120 with a 10.20 buy in. In that case its correct to shove almost every button with 10 bbs, limping is pretty much awful if this is the tourney your talking about b.c ur not going to get AK-AQ with such few blinds, what it seems like your waiting for
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                      • JohnnyDr@ma
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 02-10-10
                        • 102

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Czu81
                        after reading this I'm thinking about trying HU on stars...
                        the low Hus on stars are not difficult to beat, just playing straight forward, moving to mediums is where it starts to get difficult
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                        • Phightin' Phils
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 02-19-10
                          • 312

                          #13
                          agreed, the hu's dont start to get tough till the $50+ range
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                          • JohnnyDr@ma
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 02-10-10
                            • 102

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Phightin' Phils
                            agreed, the hu's dont start to get tough till the $50+ range
                            yea then you hope for the random fish here and there
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                            • framboise
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-11-05
                              • 1462

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Hotdiggity11
                              Eh, bigger advantage for you. Most people are simply scared to play a hand post-flop. You will only hit a pair on the flop a little less than 1/3 of the time.


                              Also, keep in mind, the all-in move actually helps newbies overcome most of the advantage of their more skilled adversaries. It puts the better player to a decision and, most of the time, they won't have a hand to call with and hands they will call with will only be between a 55-65% favorite. The better players much prefer slowly chipping away at your stack with superior post-flop play and keep the pots small unless they have a trappable hand.
                              excellent post
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                              • B1GER1C828
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 07-31-07
                                • 10244

                                #16
                                its common for all in-fold in turbos blinds r too big ehads up
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                                • Phightin' Phils
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 02-19-10
                                  • 312

                                  #17
                                  speaking of hu, i believe annie duke won the hu tourny this year. shocker.
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                                  • mrmarket
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-26-10
                                    • 4953

                                    #18
                                    If you're limping in HU play you should not be proud of your HU game. Shoving preflop over a limp could be a perfectly fine play. The problem is we don't know stack sizes in relation to blinds.
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                                    • Margin Walker
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 01-10-10
                                      • 218

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Lincoln73
                                      playing heads up on pokerstars, i will often dump the 1st few hands just to give the image of an extremely tight player. The other guy usually starts getting overaggressive with raises and if i get a premium hand i quickly reraise all in, which would induce a fold with decent players, but these jabronies seem unable to admit defeat and will often call with garbage hands. Have won good money playing in the $10.00 heads up games at PS.


                                      You're a smart man. This is my strategy as well.


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                                      • B1GER1C828
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 07-31-07
                                        • 10244

                                        #20
                                        I consider myself a good heads up player and what lincoln said is generally the strategy u'll find nowadays. Though i dont do tons of just heads up games, but when i do thats wat i see.
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                                        • sinmiedo
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 03-10-10
                                          • 2698

                                          #21
                                          this is something i never did
                                          i will have to start trying
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                                          • JohnnyDr@ma
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 02-10-10
                                            • 102

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by mrmarket
                                            If you're limping in HU play you should not be proud of your HU game. Shoving preflop over a limp could be a perfectly fine play. The problem is we don't know stack sizes in relation to blinds.
                                            was a hyper turbo lol so shove anytime is fine
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                                            • Phightin' Phils
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 02-19-10
                                              • 312

                                              #23
                                              haha hyper turbos are like flipping a coin, theyre only good for a quick hit, if possible.
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                                              • Gunpher
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 04-16-10
                                                • 125

                                                #24
                                                I love to play heads up, haven't done it in a while!
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