New ‘Superuser’ allegations raised, this time against Ultimate Bet poker

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  • bigboydan
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-10-05
    • 55420

    #1
    New ‘Superuser’ allegations raised, this time against Ultimate Bet poker
    Oh my

    New ‘Superuser’ allegations raised, this time against Ultimate Bet poker

    Right on the heels of the release of the KGC report detailing the involvement of Absolute Poker in the largest reported cheating scandal in online poker history, a new set of allegations is making the rounds at the major online poker forums. This time, the room in question is Ultimate Bet, but the alleged method of cheating - a superuser account that has access to player hole card data - seems to be more or less the same.

    This story is in a very preliminary stage, and lacks the blatantly obvious evidence that the Absolute story featured. Also, there’ been no official comment from anyone over at UB on this story as of yet.

    The allegations center around a player with the handle ‘NioNio’, who reportedly beat several of the top online pros at high stakes no limit on UB with what would be considered an unconventional style at best. The initial allegations are summarized, along with the available data, in this thread on 2+2. Excerpt from dlpnyc21’s post:

    I will post the highlights from the original thread. To be clear, trambo and I believe we were victims of a superuser who could see our cards. Others believe there was highly highly suspicious play/winrate/stats from Nionio on ub from the period of july-september. We have around 3k hands during which time nionio was up 300k. This alone would be a massive heater for anyone at 25/50 and 50/100 but what’s more surprising is that he played another 5k hands (which we do not have right now but know he played based on mypokerintel) at THE SAME WIN RATE. This means that potentially he took over 700k out of the games. He brutalized all the best and winngest players on the site. If you want more hand histories, email omniheart or myself or trambopoline. The most damaging evidence so far is the HU session vs. trambo, where he plays “perfectly” (in the worlds of trambo), floating/raising every time trambo tried to bluff/folding when trambo had good hands.

    He is up massively v. myself, trambo, arbian night, whee, cts, basically any respected 2p2er he destroyed. For a LOT of $.

    Trambopoline suggests in an accompanying thread that he’s been in touch with Phil Hellmuth personally by phone (after a mini-drama where someone pretending to be Hellmuth contact Trambopoline via email), that Hellmuth has made UB aware of the situation and that an investigation will be happening. Excerpt:

    Anyways after tracking down Phil at the tables I finally got a hold of him, this time for real. I just got off the phone wiht him after speaking with him for well over an hour. He informed me that he understands I made an honest mistake and totally forgives me, and even informed me to post that he said so. We went over the accounts in question and I got to say, he was very suspicous to say the least. . He informed me that UB has already started an investigation and that info should be released within the next few weeks. He is going to call me again within the next 1-3 days. That is all im going to comment on the issue right now, once again im terribly terribly sorry and I hope this does not tarnish my name

    We’ll post updates as they occur.
  • Al Masters
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 04-29-06
    • 6940

    #2
    Yup, i think this will end up being an ugly mark against online poker, from what i've read and heard looks very bad for UB.
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    • bigboydan
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 08-10-05
      • 55420

      #3
      I would have to agree with that as well Al.

      What even makes it worse is that the U.S. government will take this info and try and brainwash the citizens that all offshore gambling is rigged and it's not!.
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      • 20Four7
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 04-08-07
        • 6703

        #4
        If you asked me a year ago about on line poker being rigged I'd tell you to put on a tin foil hat. Now I'm not so sure. I don't play at the highest stakes on line and I'm a winning player but this is just what the US gov't needs. Both are from the KGC territory which makes them look real bad IMO.

        I'm glad it's being picked up as I posted the 2+2 thread in the absolute poker thread, I wasn't sure at the time if it warrented a new thread, which it obviously does.
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        • slacker00
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-06-05
          • 12262

          #5
          Legalize it and regulate it. Sheesh.
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          • Al Masters
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 04-29-06
            • 6940

            #6
            Originally posted by slacker00
            Legalize it and regulate it. Sheesh.
            Agreed.


            140k playing at PS right now, looks like buisness couldn't be better for them at the moment.
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            • bigboydan
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-10-05
              • 55420

              #7
              Originally posted by Al Masters

              140k playing at PS right now, looks like buisness couldn't be better for them at the moment.
              I can't say I'm surprised at all though Al.
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