it is about a cop killing a person, that is the main part. They want action against poor police response and change.
As for your other statements regarding your interactions.....it sounds like you are lumping a race all together because of the interactions you've had with 20 people. Theres so many points of your statement that I feel are really misguided and theres some people that I think I can have a discussion with and get an understanding with but to be honest man I dont think a discussion with you would go anywhere. I just think you have been brought up a certain way and you're not going to change. But heres the thing, changes will happen probably more now than ever before. You can hate it or you can try to understand it. Its up to you
Blacks haven’t changed. Cussing at cops. Committing crimes feeling like there should be no laws.
Blacks haven’t changed. Cussing at cops. Committing crimes feeling like there should be no laws.
Round and round we go.
Same BS
Lumping in an entire race into one stereotype, yeah that doesn’t sound ignorant. It’s like saying all southern white people are bible touting red necks who can’t see anything outside of what Jesus tells them.
Hypothetically, what if you came over and hung out with me & a bunch of the fellas at their house one day after we finish on the courts, and they tell you pretty much the same things I have??
It still wouldn't matter would it?
Just like it doesn't matter when other black ppl speak out against these things.
My point again is what I said earlier.
There's no changing ppls minds no matter how many other ppl think differently and no matter how many facts are presented.
It would matter more if I heard their perspective or if other people of the same race speak out regarding it. If they are in disagreement with how they have been treated by the police that would be very interesting to hear.
As for changing people’s minds, it can happen. It takes people being educated and understanding how to communicate with one another though. Adapt or die works on every level of life.
Lumping in an entire race into one stereotype, yeah that doesn’t sound ignorant. It’s like saying all southern white people are bible touting red necks who can’t see anything outside of what Jesus tells them.
I agree
But my point is it’s always the same reaction. Nothing has changed.
It would matter more if I heard their perspective or if other people of the same race speak out regarding it. If they are in disagreement with how they have been treated by the police that would be very interesting to hear.
As for changing people’s minds, it can happen. It takes people being educated and understanding how to communicate with one another though. Adapt or die works on every level of life.
Duke give me your opinion on these questions/topics plz ..
Why is it when any black person sides with ppl of another color, specifically white ppl, they are called & considered sellouts, or uncle Tom's??
They can't even have their own beliefs without being attacked by their own.
And with that being said, why can't white ppl just brush off their own in the same way when they are joining in protests and such?
Why the contradiction and so many things are allowed by one side, but the other can't make the same arguments?
Ok, now let's talk about police officers.
Why is it many African-Americans believe they are the only ones who ever get bothered by Police officers?
Just about everyone of every color has had bad run-ins with cops.
Many years ago a girlfriend and I ordered takeout and parked in a park to eat it, inside the car.
Shortly after we start, a cop pulls up, comes to her window, and asks what we're doing.
Food in our laps, it's obvious what were doing, but we play along.
But that's not good enough for him.
He then makes us get out of the car and wants to look in the car, and even asks to go thru her purse.
Clearly he is thinking we are doingn drugs, despite food in our mouths and our laps.
Another cop shows up on the scene.
At that point I'm pretty pissed and voice my displeasure with the other cop in a respectful manner, and he is pretty cool about it.
Eventually it's over with and they leave.
We all get heckled by prick cops at times.
Don't you think that we all want to talk sh!t but don't?
Why is it that so many African-Americans think that it's ok to do just that, and make things 10x worse with that cop?
Is it because they think they are being singled out?
Maybe that's the reason, but we just talked about that, how everyone experiences it.
Some ppl just know not to escalate things.
There are hundreds or thousands of police videos or civilian cell phone videos out there showing and proving that they act out and make things worse with the officers.
So again I ask, is it because they think they are being singled out or picked on?
Becauses if so, this is one of the fabrications you and I discussed earlier on.
Duke give me your opinion on these questions/topics plz ..
Why is it when any black person sides with ppl of another color, specifically white ppl, they are called & considered sellouts, or uncle Tom's??
They can't even have their own beliefs without being attacked by their own.
And with that being said, why can't white ppl just brush off their own in the same way when they are joining in protests and such?
Why the contradiction and so many things are allowed by one side, but the other can't make the same arguments?
Ok, now let's talk about police officers.
Why is it many African-Americans believe they are the only ones who ever get bothered by Police officers?
Just about everyone of every color has had bad run-ins with cops.
Many years ago a girlfriend and I ordered takeout and parked in a park to eat it, inside the car.
Shortly after we start, a cop pulls up, comes to her window, and asks what we're doing.
Food in our laps, it's obvious what were doing, but we play along.
But that's not good enough for him.
He then makes us get out of the car and wants to look in the car, and even asks to go thru her purse.
Clearly he is thinking we are doingn drugs, despite food in our mouths and our laps.
Another cop shows up on the scene.
At that point I'm pretty pissed and voice my displeasure with the other cop in a respectful manner, and he is pretty cool about it.
Eventually it's over with and they leave.
We all get heckled by prick cops at times.
Don't you think that we all want to talk sh!t but don't?
Why is it that so many African-Americans think that it's ok to do just that, and make things 10x worse with that cop?
Is it because they think they are being singled out?
Maybe that's the reason, but we just talked about that, how everyone experiences it.
Some ppl just know not to escalate things.
There are hundreds or thousands of police videos or civilian cell phone videos out there showing and proving that they act out and make things worse with the officers.
So again I ask, is it because they think they are being singled out or picked on?
Becauses if so, this is one of the fabrications you and I discussed earlier on.
Maybe, just maybe, a long time ago that happened.
I’m going to try to hit all your points
1. I think that idea comes from the idea that in order for a black person to be successful in certain areas predominantly white they needed to act a certain way. They needed to act softer, more “white”. I think basically what it turns into is the black community being frustrated that a “Uncle Tom” as you call it isn’t being true to themselves and only appeasing a white person to fit in. No one should have to not be themselves in order to succeed. I know personally I hate fake people, I would take an honest person all day over someone who I never know who they truly are.
2. Now there are some white people who are fake and don’t care about this movement at all and are just following suit to increase their brand or like ability this is true. But to me it’s hard to argue the simple fact that a black man and many others have died that don’t need to from police mistakes. That really should be the underlying issue and I feel like everyone should be able to get behind that. People not resisting arrest or bystanders should not die from police mistakes. This is the part that is the most frustrating and why I don’t get why everyone can’t get behind the fact that the current police system is broken and needs change. I may have gotten caught up in other aspects as well regarding race too in which I feel like there are injustices but everyone should at least want change in terms of policing.
3. You need to provide the type of contradictions you are referring to and an example.
4. I don’t think black people think they are the only ones getting bothered by cops. I think they don’t understand why there isn’t the same approach. For example your situation, they gave you a hard time and you got annoyed and gave them shit. If you were an African American that would have escalated 75 percent of time.
I think the leeway allowed from a cop in stopping a white person compared to the perception by the cops that all black people are dangerous Is a huge gap. Why do we not hear about as many situations of white people dieing in police encounters? Are we just saying there aren’t bad white people committing crimes because you know that’s not it. Can you imagine right now what would have happened to that cop if he choked out a white guy? Or better yet the girl that got shot in the house when a drug warrant was being served but not to her. What if that was a 16 year old white girl in an affluent community? You think the cops would get away with it as much?
Another point I would like to make, how many public white arrests go quietly and discreet and how many black arrests involved bringing the house down? It’s a big difference. I think these are the reasons why black people feel the way they do
I do agree you are going to find evidence of situations that do make it worse but you have to wonder if they got treated the same way as a white person did during an arrest and never had to worry about accidentally getting shot or had the shit kicked out of them with batons would they act the same way?
I’m telling you this, if I had grown up as a black man and seen the accidents that happen by police in routine traffic stops I would probably be scared and may not make the most rash decisions as well. But I know from experience if a cop comes up to my window and sees me reaching in the dash for my insurance he’s not drawing his gun on me right off. It doesn’t go the same way for black people unfortunately
The Media Buzzwords of the day: DEFUND THE POLICE Stop scaring White people. “DEFUND” simply means that the department pays a PORTION of their yearly budget to the BLACK community. Cops mistreat a lot of equipment, especially patrol cars.
After all of this craziness, more cities will actually be amping their police departments with MORE officers, not less.
Problem is the new slew of cops will be less qualified. Cities will be hiring any Tom dick or Harry because no one with a brain is gonna want to police anymore. There will be more moronic police brutality than before