Police Defunding?

**goduke** · 06-10-20, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by TATUMUS

So your argument suggests that a police force of ZERO would produce the lowest crime rate.

Other statistics seem to indicate a direct correlation between local Democrat government and higher crime rates AND poverty.

This idea of defunding law enforcement is so irrational. So in one breath people are saying we have a systemic problem with police brutality (which I'm not buying to begin with but that's a different argument). And in the next breath they are saying let's take away funding so that additional training cannot be made available to reduce these types of incidents. I say reduce, because they will never be totally eliminated. More people WILL die in police custody, and the next one that happens to be black (whether through police brutality or not) will ignite this entire powder keg again (if he's white, no one will care and it likely won't even make the news). But who is going to be the ones to suffer the most from reduced police protection? I can guarantee it's not going to be Nancy Pelosi or any of those Democrat mayors living in their guarded gated communities.

One thing that puzzles me is why a lot of black people can't see how George Floyd's death has been totally exploited and how they are being manipulated by the Democrats. That whole circus that Pelosi put on with the kneeling was nothing but pandering. And anyone who can't see that is either blind or averse to reality. Remember, an election is coming up. It's the quadrennial season for the Dems to polish up their rhetoric about how they intend to improve the plight of the black man and shout it out from every podium they step in front of. And then on November 4, it will go back into storage for the next four years. Pelosi, Schumer and Biden have all been in the top levels of government for decades and if they have such grand plans, why haven't they done something already? They had a black president and both houses of Congress during a period of Obama's reign, yet they did nothing because they had already won the election.

But it should be plain to see that if racial harmony were to come about, it would to the detriment of the Democrat Party because racial discord is such an important part of their platform. Democrats can't win without the black vote. If the race card was suddenly eliminated, it'd be the greatest defeat the Democrats would suffer since the Republicans ended slavery. The War on Poverty (aka the Poverty Proliferation Program) began in 1968 and since that time the government has spent $22 TRILLION ($22,000,000,000,000.00) towards that effort. The results have been nil. We're still at the same poverty rate that we were in 1968. But President Johnson underestimated himself a bit when he said he would have the blacks voting Democrat for the next 50 years. It's been 652 years now but the curtain is finally being lifted and the BLEXIT movement is gaining momentum. For the sake of black Americans, I sincerely hope that movement continues to grow.

How does the war on poverty get solved by tax cuts for the wealthy? Or cutting givernment programs? Are you saying all 22 trillion has been spent by only democrats to help poverty? And they are only to blame? Or are you saying that because 22 trillion has been spent that now that will cause the black vote to lean towards republican vote? Not a very clear point or argument made here

**eidolon** · 06-10-20, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by Mr KLC

Is that a dude?

**JIBBBY** · 06-10-20, 07:15 PM

I'm starting to hate ALL police now.. BLM, ANTIFA, CNN and MSNBC tells me so!!

**DwightShrute** · 06-10-20, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by eidolon

Is that a dude?

vitterd

**DwightShrute** · 06-10-20, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

I'm starting to hate ALL police now.. BLM, ANTIFA, CNN and MSNBC tells me so!!

ALL police and white people

**nyplayer33** · 06-10-20, 07:27 PM

Pretty sure thsts a female. Imagine if that was my dna, um.
.....woukd have to do something id never ecpect. But its not
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**nyplayer33** · 06-10-20, 07:28 PM

Defunding the police is a wide term and not as it apoears.

**JIBBBY** · 06-10-20, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by nyplayer33

Defunding the police is a wide term and not as it apoears.

Defunding means less police.. That's all you need to know..

Dems walking it back now. Still means the same.. Take away and then remove.. DEFUND!!!

**goduke** · 06-10-20, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Defunding means less police.. That's all you need to know..

Dems walking it back now. Still means the same.. Take away and then remove.. DEFUND!!!

It has more meaning then that you divert the funding so while yes that means less police it isn’t everything to know. You take some of that money and you invest it into education, social programs, health services. Things that can change or help children grow in these communities and flourish. Or even help some adults. Will there be bad people that can’t change who are already adults, yes probably. But if you’re changing a whole society and trying to develop it to flourish are police going to be what makes it better By arresting people. Once that person is arrested or has a criminal record it’s very hard for them ever to advance past a certain threshold or could programs that are going to help these people in these communities understand the steps they can take to help and guide them into productive members of society be a better idea?

**DwightShrute** · 06-10-20, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by goduke

It has more meaning then that you divert the funding so while yes that means less police it isn’t everything to know. You take some of that money and you invest it into education, social programs, health services. Things that can change or help children grow in these communities and flourish. Or even help some adults. Will there be bad people that can’t change who are already adults, yes probably. But if you’re changing a whole society and trying to develop it to flourish are police going to be what makes it better By arresting people. Once that person is arrested or has a criminal record it’s very hard for them ever to advance past a certain threshold or could programs that are going to help these people in these communities understand the steps they can take to help and guide them into productive members of society be a better idea?

I basically disagree with every single word you posted. You are being lied to.

**goduke** · 06-10-20, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

I basically disagree with every single word you posted. You are being lied to.

Dwight your video is just of bunch of people clipped together. I’d like to stick to things with a little more substance. Not left or right. Tell me what you disagree with? Have you looked at police budgets? Have you seen different? Are you saying money to other programs would not help communities? Let’s open the discussion and help me understand your point of view

**JIBBBY** · 06-10-20, 10:23 PM

Originally posted by goduke

It has more meaning then that you divert the funding so while yes that means less police it isn’t everything to know. You take some of that money and you invest it into education, social programs, health services. Things that can change or help children grow in these communities and flourish. Or even help some adults. Will there be bad people that can’t change who are already adults, yes probably. But if you’re changing a whole society and trying to develop it to flourish are police going to be what makes it better By arresting people. Once that person is arrested or has a criminal record it’s very hard for them ever to advance past a certain threshold or could programs that are going to help these people in these communities understand the steps they can take to help and guide them into productive members of society be a better idea?

Take away funding.. Police man power shrinks.. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out!!! Less policing means more street corruption and crimes..

Make that happen and see what happens!! Gun up civilians to protect self, family and property.. Beef up that home security is all I have to say about that..

**lakerboy** · 06-10-20, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by goduke

It has more meaning then that you divert the funding so while yes that means less police it isn’t everything to know. You take some of that money and you invest it into education, social programs, health services. Things that can change or help children grow in these communities and flourish. Or even help some adults. Will there be bad people that can’t change who are already adults, yes probably. But if you’re changing a whole society and trying to develop it to flourish are police going to be what makes it better By arresting people. Once that person is arrested or has a criminal record it’s very hard for them ever to advance past a certain threshold or could programs that are going to help these people in these communities understand the steps they can take to help and guide them into productive members of society be a better idea?

Number one reason for inner city issues? No father. End of story.

**DwightShrute** · 06-10-20, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by goduke

Dwight your video is just of bunch of people clipped together. I’d like to stick to things with a little more substance. Not left or right. Tell me what you disagree with? Have you looked at police budgets? Have you seen different? Are you saying money to other programs would not help communities? Let’s open the discussion and help me understand your point of view

You have to hate black people (and people in general) if you support defunding the police. The video is full of black people telling it like it is and not these race hustlers on CNN and BLM teaming up with the dems to push some stupid narrative that defunding the police is an idea with some merit. Do want George Zimmerman patrolling the neighborhood?

Listen man, one ~~black~~ man was killed by a ~~white~~ cop and he is charged for his crime. That's all there is. The rest is all about power and nothing else. Nothing to do with Mr Floyd's death whatsoever.

Never ever lose your dignity and kneel to another race or another person for any reason unless you are proposing marriage or to your God. Otherwise, you are a pandering to violence. To thugs.

If you support defunding the police, you are like this person. Don't ever be her. Instead, step on the gas and go.

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**JIBBBY** · 06-10-20, 10:36 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Number one reason for inner city issues? No father. End of story.

Crack addict and 40 ounce drinking mother that has a swinging open door for men to come in and bang her in the HUD housing apartment while her 5 small children are seeing that doesn't help either..

Hood life is sad.. I've seen it.. For real!! No father figure and absent mother is a true hell hole to crawl out of in life. Gotta rise about that crap.. Find GOD and believe in yourself.

**jjgold** · 06-10-20, 10:40 PM

Nobody defunding political suicide

**DwightShrute** · 06-12-20, 07:12 AM

democrats destroying America

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**nyplayer33** · 06-13-20, 10:27 PM

Im armed dont care, ak 47 on the way to me. Im ready

**Mr KLC** · 07-20-20, 08:47 AM

Real estate agent in Montana just had NINETEEN bids on a listed house. Nineteen. Homes are selling to New Yorkers and Californians sight unseen for over $400 a square foot.

People are fleeing America’s cities. They are gonna be some dark, crime-ridden places for a long time.

Jesse Kelly - Host of the nationally syndicated Jesse Kelly Show.

**Mr KLC** · 07-21-20, 09:41 AM

In one of the first signs that a backlash has begun against police protests, a growing number of Americans are voicing their support for cops, especially in their neighborhood, and shifting away from the “defund” effort sparked by the Black Lives Matter marches.

The latest Rasmussen Reports survey indicates strong national support for police and law and order, even among African Americans.

In it, 66% of adults said they oppose cutting the police budget in their community to channel money to social services, the scheme pushed by many liberals. That is up from 59% just last month.

And, said Rasmussen, 23% “favor defunding the cops where they live,” and that is down from 27% just a few weeks ago.

It’s not just a white thing. Rasmussen said that 57% of blacks oppose defunding police in their home community. For whites, it's 69% and for other minorities it is 62%.

The shift away from defunding police comes as many cities have seen a surge in crime and the images of looting, flag burnings and riots during anti-police and Black Lives Matter protests remain fresh in the minds of Americans, especially those in the suburbs.

The new survey said that many believe that a cut in funding of traditional policing will lead to higher crime rates. Only 12% now think defunding police will cut crime. Another 61% see crime increasing.